Crikey, are people still thinking about this? Let it go.
Solskjaer's legacy and his future
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Sorry. It just occurred to me how embarrassingly forced the OP was.
As opposed to how you are trying to force all blame into Ole. He did his job, some good elements, some bad elements and all the while gave his best for a club he clearly loved. Very much deserved the praise and thanks!
This. 100%
This bump is giving me deja vu
When?
Yes it was but some (arguably most) threads should just be left to gather dust.
No standards? What are you talking about? Reality is that we are not good enough and that we had couple of managers trying to fix that. It has not worked and now it is tenHag turn.
I am not that obsessed with Champions League like you seem. I rather win Premier League.
Once again, he didn’t fail. Players failed and we hoped that changing manager would get them going but even with new manager they keep doing the same. So this is not on managers. This is on players.
Good manager, but like previous managers who are even bigger, he was let down by players.
These are just more excuses to absolve him.
No manager here was let down by players. It's unreal how some of you choose to absolve the manager of anything like they're a deity.
They all failed.
Moyes failed.
Van Gaal failed.
Jose failed.
Ole failed.
Fascinating comparing and contrasting the tone and tenor of the posts on the first few pages of this thread with those on the latter pages. Time is a healer isn't it. In the cold light of day and with distance, everything seems not quite as bad as it once did. It is like a raw painful wound that scabs, leaving a painless scar.
The truth is that as United fans we want to feel better about Ole's tenure because we like him. He is after all a club legend. He will therefore forever be in our hearts. It is equally true that as United manager Ole proved himself to be inept. Aside from his blistering start and some real show-piece moments in Paris, at the Etihad, a distant second place finish to City and almost (but not quite) run in the Europa League Ole's tenure was abject. Ole was enthusiastically supported by the fans and backed by the board. Yet with, on paper, the best team in years at his disposal for the 2021/22 season, Ole contrived to take United backwards. Having finished second the season before, we invested in more, we brought in better and we got worse. A truly baffling accomplishment that no one has quite managed to get their heads round.
I have not seen the charity being afforded Ole extended to either Van Gaal, or Jose both of whom actually won things as United managers. Nor for that matter to Moyes, who is unlikely to ever get another top PL job, but who has gone a long way to rehabilitate his reputation since leaving United. Any honest appraisal of Ole should rightly reflect on his successes as well as failures, but 'time-washing' is dangerous. Why? Well if we do not learn the lessons of the past, then we are bound to repeat them aren't we?
The truth is that as United fans we want to feel better about Ole's tenure because we like him. He is after all a club legend. He will therefore forever be in our hearts. It is equally true that as United manager Ole proved himself to be inept. Aside from his blistering start and some real show-piece moments in Paris, at the Etihad, a distant second place finish to City and almost (but not quite) run in the Europa League Ole's tenure was abject. Ole was enthusiastically supported by the fans and backed by the board. Yet with, on paper, the best team in years at his disposal for the 2021/22 season, Ole contrived to take United backwards. Having finished second the season before, we invested in more, we brought in better and we got worse. A truly baffling accomplishment that no one has quite managed to get their heads round.
I have not seen the charity being afforded Ole extended to either Van Gaal, or Jose both of whom actually won things as United managers. Nor for that matter to Moyes, who is unlikely to ever get another top PL job, but who has gone a long way to rehabilitate his reputation since leaving United. Any honest appraisal of Ole should rightly reflect on his successes as well as failures, but 'time-washing' is dangerous. Why? Well if we do not learn the lessons of the past, then we are bound to repeat them aren't we?
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To be fair you crap on everything here.
He was an awful coach who won nothing and left a shit team in need for full rebuild. That's his legacy as a Man United manager.
If another manager had done what he did in those 3 years while not having the ex legend label on him, this thread wouldn't have existed.
If another manager had done what he did in those 3 years while not having the ex legend label on him, this thread wouldn't have existed.
You forgot Rangnick failed. So everyone failed but players are world beaters that are missunderstood. Right?
Managers have been let down. It is that simply. Nobody said managers are free of criticism but there is no doubt were blame should go when we talk about
He was shite like all our post-Fergie appointments, unfortunately. Now that the dust has settled, you can see the carnage that he left behind. While all our other post-Fergie appointments have gotten themselves decent gigs; I never see this happening for Ole, as he's not good enough. Pretending his spell was anything less than a failure is hilarious tbh. Just admit that he failed, like Jose, LvG and Moyes, and move on.
Apologies, a hopeless dunce throwing endless amounts of shite against the wall in a desperate desire that some might stick should never be classified as quality football.
Pretty much. Hence my response to the accusation that I blame everything on Solskjaer.
Fair point. So when was the last time you were able to view what goes on in the dressing room the same way you can view what happens on the pitch? The facts are from a distance we don’t know who does what beyond the pitch so instead of whataboutism let’s talk about something we all saw, which was the likes of Maguire & Shaw delivering some of the worst on field performances throughout the whole of OgSs reign.
It’s getting tiresome hearing posters have more opinions on things that occur behind closed doors than on the pitch, the squad is rotten so singling out players you’ve chosen not to like & making arguments based on thin air isn’t particularly discussion in good faith.
Pogba was part of Solskjær’s ‘small, settled squad’ so that argument makes no sense. OgS was found out, so have many players been.
Fair play, point taken. I just think the constant names are Pogba, Lingard, Rashford when as you say Shaw has been terrible for LvG & beyond whilst Maguire is. . . Maguire. I’m glad they’ll both be leaving, just hope others follow.
Spot on. I loved Solskjaer as a player but this love he gets for his time as manager is just bizarre to say the least.
Amazing that after all damage he has done here and how he had no dignity to resign, he is still labelled as legend.
The levels of cringe from some of our fans after he left, was something else. And don't get me started on that fecking exit video he done. Christ. The sooner we can forget his spell the better. Hopefully ETH can finally silence the remaining hardcore fanboys.
That is because they can't separate the player from the manager. And some really think he did a good job, which is quite laughable at this point.
He is. Will always he remembered for the player he was. He didn't hire himself. Liverpool had the good sense to sack Daglish and he's still their greatest ever player.
For me it is not just that he did awful job. It is the fact that he was prepared to relegate us and still he would not resign. He was prepared to do everything just to prolong his time here (and get money for sacking). How many times we heard "Ole loves the club" , "Ole will resign if things go south" etc...what a bs.
Of course that was BS, you have to be naive to think that. Him and his family are set up for life now, doesnt need to work anymore. He did well though in making people believe that with his United talk every week. He loves United, but not that much. At the end, he just milked it as far as he could to save his job/payment, knowing well he was out of his depth and wont get to manage in the PL again, nevermind a top club.
Why you gotta bring this back up goddamit. Hey look, hindsight is 20/20 yeah?
The obsessive hate is very odd.
Nothing to do with hindsight. Everyone who was even slightly objective knew from day one that failed Cardiff manager is not good enough for Man Utd.
Still bumping the Ole threads when we go a goal down 
That exit video just about summed it up.Joke of manager,three years of shite.Odd thing is that Lvg, Jose and Moyes get "hate" all the time. Two won trophies, other one was here only half of season.
The guy who did amazing damage gets love and "thank you" banners .
The failed Cardiff manager is also a United legend. If any of our players from the last nine years (not including Fergie players like Rooney, Rio, Vidic) even contribute(d) some of what Ole has done they would have been much more successful.
I really don’t know how someone who despises Ole and at the same time worships a player like Pogba can call himself a United fan.
Speaking of obsessions. Although I guess it’s always good to have fans, please just don’t ask for my address
Cry more … Ole will continue to get love from United fans and rightly so
Speaking of obsessions. Although I guess it’s always good to have fans, please just don’t ask for my address
Dickhead 'posts' just stand out for me
The day the patter died.Dickhead 'posts' just stand out for me
Good lad.
Worships Pogba?
.I don’t think you get it but it seems to have done the job. So I can’t complain.