I think his tenure was good enough that posters don't need to flock to here every day to make excuses for Ralf six months later
Solskjaer's legacy and his future
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran are here to talk about a frustrating 2 points dropped at Crystal Palace. They then discuss the regeneration of Old Trafford. Finally, Nik is joined by special guest Michael Statham from the Football Oranje podcast - who gives us a more in depth look at our EL opposition FC Twente, and then runs through the (many) Dutch connections currently at United.
What are you on about ?
im not a young fan and ole is a poor manager, he did nothing.
He didn’t change one thing and wasted a shedload of money
Apparently, Malmo FF had him on the list (Swedish team, played in the CL this season) but I don't know how close it was. Anyway, they went for another coach. I'm not sure they could afford him with his salary at United in mind. But yeah, that's the level he belongs at.
None of them deserve excuses; every one of them was utter shite and well below what's required. The constant semantics over who was the least shite is nauseating.
Bang on.
I fear it'll go on until we win something of note as well. The forum was heading this way for years and Ole's tenure was always going to be the most sentimental to many supporters, hence to constant excuses.
The reality is what you've already said, all managers post Fergie have been shite, just to different degrees of shiteness. People can probably find positives in each reign (Moyes aside) but now it's just become a point scoring exercise from the extreme posters on each side of the divide.
How do you explain then that such a good attacking manager that did a good job at Manchester United is only being considered for jobs such as Malmö and Aberdeen after his tenure with us? I mean if you were correct than surely he would be in contention for top jobs or at least CL clubs from top leagues and be a top candidate for any open PL job?
Stop trying to rewrite history. He was a failure and by your attitude and that of others, we seemingly need to repeat this from time to time to ensure no lies are being spread.
I'm not even joking when I say that the club should even consider bringing him back in some kind of psychological/motivation role. It will never cease to amaze me that he lasted as long as he did in the manager role despite a very obvious lack of managerial acumen. The reports that surfaced after he got sacked and other stuff indicate that Ole was big (and obviously far too reliant) on positive psychology and belief. Are there many sides that have staged that many comebacks from losing positions in a single season? It was extraordinary. Before anyone piles in, as a manager, I wouldn't go near him with a 10ft barge pole as you need a cold headed, pragmatic, statistics driven approach to playing alongside motivation. But you can't help but be pretty astonished at how he held it together against the odds, papered over cracks and actually achieved top 4 places, even though his management absolutely left us in a highly unstable and worse condition prior his departure. It's surely part of what made him such an effective sub during his playing career. Whatever he has, it is valuable, it's just not at all suitable for being manager of a top club.
I've often wondered what constitutes a "young fan" and at which age you gain access to the criticism skill tree.
I'm 54 but my brain thinks I'm about 20. It's a conundrum.
The Hibernian job is available... Do they want a counter attacking coach who believes in pashun and desire? He might just suit that job.
True. We should discuss each in their own merits. Need to let go of our pretty squabbles. I'm more guilty than most. Excited for the next steps at the club
Torpedo of greenwood career. Get a grip fella. Have you no other outlet in your life haha
Insane to list that as something ole did directly. Insane might not even cover it
Cultural reset in the mud.
Whatever his input was to transfers or contracts, Ole is going to be held accountable (and rightly so) for the absolute state of this squad right now. We have never been so far away from Liverpool and then you look at that starting 11. It’s absolutely tragic.
Well if at 29 Jesse Lingard can still be considered a "young player" than I, as a 43 year old, declare myself a young fan.
Im sorry mate but what?
Martial had his best season ever under Ole, same with Rashford. I guess its nice of you to defend Martial.
If you dont need reminding, Mason Greenwood got himself arrested. Are you implying Ole had anything to do with what he did?
Didn't hear many on here objecting to signing Sancho. Said at the time we'd have been better spending £73m on the midfield.
In your big emotional rant post hobbersWho said Ole did it directly?
The damage Ole has done has almost negated his achievements as a player.
Haha
He couldn't have done a better job of sabotaging us if he was employed as a double agent
Picked the wrong lineup today! And, spending all that money!? And only 3 of his signings start? Needs sacking!
Wow, people still defend the worst manager we ever had.
But, it's not that far when people were considering him as a top 5 manager in epl.
How did Utd build a squad of defectively talented luxury players and names with no workrate or will for a fight. People constantly complain that Utd can not let go of the past but in a basic element of the game, workrate and desire, they have. Bare minimum you don't let the opposition outwork you, every team does now. Stop chasing fecking names and online engagement.
Never looked at it this way but it pretty much sums up the fruits of his labour.
They used to compare him to Klopp. They used to say ‘Klopp did this in his first full season’ then ‘Klopp did that in his second full season’.
It no longer serves them to compare him to Klopp now does it?
People rated him as our best manager post Fergie
Complete amateur with no experience in charge of training, team selection, squad harmony, players attitudes etc… for ages….and all of a sudden we are in trouble!
If only someone could have seen it coming.
The fact that he is still defended cause he managed one second place on Liverpool’s off cycle is a joke.
He has set us back years and years.
If only someone could have seen it coming.
The fact that he is still defended cause he managed one second place on Liverpool’s off cycle is a joke.
He has set us back years and years.
He needs another banner "We love you Ole".
Ole would have had a great chance at winning today is the sad reality
Is this sarcasm? I think it must be but you can never 100% tell online...
Ole got second with this team, worth remembering as Mourinho used to go on about it.
Ralf Rangnick is not as good as advertised. What has he improved from Ole?Ole left on a low it shouldn't be hard to beat. Does he even have a game where he impressed us with coaching prowess?
Yeah, let's blame rangnick, it's not like the previous manager left a shit show behind him.
Looking at both teams today and it’s mental to think nobody from our starting 11 gets into that Liverpool team yet Ole spend 130m on 2 defenders so it tells you how much he wasted money
Improved ? Nothing, but this squad is crap and it is on Ole he wasted 130 on Maguire and AWB who both aren’t good enough then signed Ronaldo because it was Ronaldo when we desperately needed a DM. He thought that a CM of Mctominay and Fred was good enough to go into a season where we were expected to challenge.
People still defending failed Cardiff manager? That.is.fecking.unbelievable.
Seriously, you guys are in love in that fraud or what? He single-handedly destroyed YOUR club beyond repair and some of you still defend him. Ffs
Seriously, you guys are in love in that fraud or what? He single-handedly destroyed YOUR club beyond repair and some of you still defend him. Ffs