What if we end up not spending alot of money on CF we end up bringing him in instead.That's our midfield sorted then.
Amrabat in
Felix on loan
Mount
Onana
Amrabat
Felix on loan
This a decent summer? New owners come in then we go big for CF next window.
So who’s going to play up front then ??I read somewhere yesterday that ETH now prioritise the signing of this guy over a new #9. Seem true imo. Not a bad deal for the price quoted I think.
Not sure about that but him constantly agitating for a move is disrespectful and disruptive for any club.Is he out of contract next year or something?
Sounds too good to be true that a club is so willing to hand a player over for a relatively modest sum these days.
Kind of depressing that we would still have to scrimp and save a few pennies to get it over the line.
So who’s going to play up front then ??
Is he out of contract next year or something?
Sounds too good to be true that a club is so willing to hand a player over for a relatively modest sum these days.
Kind of depressing that we would still have to scrimp and save a few pennies to get it over the line.
Be Rashford or Felix then you have Martial available when he is fit. 3 options.Who would you play up front?
Be Rashford or Felix then you have Martial available when he is fit. 3 options.
Play a false 9 with Felix.
Rashford,Felix, Martial -CF
Rashford, Garnacho, Sancho - LW
Antony, Amad, Sancho, Bruno - RW
There's options for the frontline.
Go big on CF when new owners are in hopefully by January window.
No manager changes their plans for signings based on a meaningless preseason game against a championship team in early JulyStriker first, then we can think about Amrabat. Mainoo did well against Leeds at dm, we could do without Amralebaz
https://fbref.com/en/players/5a2cb25d/Sofyan-AmrabatFred is positionally awful and the least press resistant player around so is constantly getting turned over in deep positions when he plays 6, the opposite of what you want from your deep lying midfielder. Amrabat is press resistant and from what I saw during the world cup, he was very positionally aware and mopped up everything in sight for Morocco. I'm not saying he's the next Verratti but there's plenty of reasons that he would succeed where Fred might fail. EtH is clearly trying to raise the technical floor of this squad and that straight swap would do it by quite a lot.
Ask any football data analyst - defensive stats are not reliable indicators of a player's abilities. It tells you more about their team's style of play. Maldini, arguably the greatest defender of all time said that "If I have to make a tackle then I have already made a mistake".https://fbref.com/en/players/5a2cb25d/Sofyan-Amrabat
https://fbref.com/en/players/b853e0ad/Fred
Fred is also better than Amrabat at literally every defensive metrics, as for being positionally awful, just watch WH's winning goal in the ECL final.
Amrabat isnt a DM, end of story. He's a DLP who needs a defensive minded water carrier next to him to be at his best, and even then having him in that deep position still make you somewhat defensively suspect. If we are getting him to play further forward, it's fine but still somewhat superfluous given our needs elsewhere, as a Casemiro backup/competition, it doesn't make a jot of sense, we are open enough with Case as it is.
Then how come every other notable DMs in the market have decent stats at least in some if not most of those categories? Amrabat's defensive stats aren't just bad, they are in the 20th, 30th percentile, which means they are worse than 70, 80% of his peers in Europe. It's true that there are something that the naked eye can pick up that stats might not, but there's literally no example of a player being this mediocre in those metrics who is the opposite on the field.Ask any football data analyst - defensive stats are not reliable indicators of a player's abilities. It tells you more about their team's style of play. Maldini, arguably the greatest defender of all time said that "If I have to make a tackle then I have already made a mistake".
Hugill the GOATSo who’s going to play up front then ??
He's really not that highly rated. He'll be 27 at the start of next season and has hardly shown himself besides the worldcup.Is he out of contract next year or something?
Sounds too good to be true that a club is so willing to hand a player over for a relatively modest sum these days.
Kind of depressing that we would still have to scrimp and save a few pennies to get it over the line.
No CF is not a solution and I am 100% sure ETH will insist on a striker/worst case goal scoring forward this summer, be it on loan or permanently.
Rodri, the best DM in the world doesn't have good defensive stats per that fbref defensive summary aside from defensive headers and I think most of people would agree that that's hardly the litmus test for a great DM. Moneyball is literally the opposite to what you ascribe it i.e. short-listing players based on the most obvious attributes you can think of such as volume of tackles (which clearly doesn't tell you if someone is a good defensive midfielder). If Amrabat has his positioning correct, he wouldn't have to make any tackles. I'm as data oriented as anyone but you still need to watch these guys and Amrabat was a defensive colossus in the world cup which shows he has the ability to do so when required or in the right system.Then how come every other notable DMs in the market have decent stats at least in some if not most of those categories? Amrabat's defensive stats aren't just bad, they are in the 20th, 30th percentile, which means they are worse than 70, 80% of his peers in Europe. It's true that there are something that the naked eye can pick up that stats might not, but there's literally no example of a player being this mediocre in those metrics who is the opposite on the field.
Moneyball exists for a reason.
This line of argument reeks of 'EtH wants him and I trust EtH, therefore he must be right'. Well, no manager is infallible and we just lived through 5 months of Wout Weghorst to attest to that.
Fair, but if we can’t afford him we have Mainoo to give it a shot.No manager changes their plans for signings based on a meaningless preseason game against a championship team in early July
I think Real would/are considering selling Tchouameni it but they'd be looking for virtually a full recoup of their outlay and so it's not feasible for us and probably not the best use of funds as he's not really that build up 6/8 we need either. I would love Lavia but €50mn is too much for a development project at this point in our rebuild until we address holes in the first team.Obviously in an ideal world I would prefer Tchouameni (Real won't sell) or Lavia (not interested) so despite concerns about his stats will get behind this IF it happens after sales
I think Real would/are considering selling Tchouameni it but they'd be looking for virtually a full recoup of their outlay and so it's not feasible for us and probably not the best use of funds as he's not really that build up 6/8 we need either. I would love Lavia but €50mn is too much for a development project at this point in our rebuild until we address holes in the first team.
I think he'll be one of those players who gets linked to some serious top clubs only to sign for Wolves on the last day of the window.
There's question marks about all the peak age guys like Bennacer (injuries) and Locatelli (although Locatelli's price must also have dropped considerably) but given we have Casemiro, I definitely wouldn't mind taking a punt on one of the South American standouts that play those positions (André Trinidad, Federico Redondo, Oscar Zambrano, Fabricio Diaz). Wouldn't be expensive and even if it doesn't workout for them in the first team, you might still have the potential to make a profit.Who is that build up 6/8 we need who isn't called De Jong because that one has sailed
There's question marks about all the peak age guys like Bennacer (injuries) and Locatelli (although Locatelli's price must also have dropped considerably) but given we have Casemiro, I definitely wouldn't mind taking a punt on one of the South American standouts that play those positions (André Trinidad, Federico Redondo, Oscar Zambrano, Fabricio Diaz). Wouldn't be expensive and even if it doesn't workout for them in the first team, you might still have the potential to make a profit.
There's question marks about all the peak age guys like Bennacer (injuries) and Locatelli (although Locatelli's price must also have dropped considerably) but given we have Casemiro, I definitely wouldn't mind taking a punt on one of the South American standouts that play those positions (André Trinidad, Federico Redondo, Oscar Zambrano, Fabricio Diaz). Wouldn't be expensive and even if it doesn't workout for them in the first team, you might still have the potential to make a profit.
He plays much further forward.What about Barella (high price tag though)
If we don’t make a move soon I can see Liverpool sniffing around him if they sell Fabinho. We’re obviously held back by the fact we need to sell first and we have a bigger priority to address up front.
Good shouts. What of Edson Alvarez? I know people have had enough of Ajax signings but he looks like someone that is going to take off once he joins a bigger team. He is a tailor made DM. He would also be a superb deputy to Casemiro and would do just as well beside him in situations where we need more bite and control in midfield.There's question marks about all the peak age guys like Bennacer (injuries) and Locatelli (although Locatelli's price must also have dropped considerably) but given we have Casemiro, I definitely wouldn't mind taking a punt on one of the South American standouts that play those positions (André Trinidad, Federico Redondo, Oscar Zambrano, Fabricio Diaz). Wouldn't be expensive and even if it doesn't workout for them in the first team, you might still have the potential to make a profit.
Yeah that's a possibility and the fact he's also linked with Barca & Bayern shows he can't be all that average surely
Has Alvarez not gone to Dortmund? He was being heavily linked with West Ham too at one stage. Alvarez is decent defensively but is extremely limited on the ball and not sure he'd survive the step up to the premiership very well and certainly not for a top six team.Good shouts. What of Edson Alvarez? I know people have had enough of Ajax signings but he looks like someone that is going to take off once he joins a bigger team. He is a tailor made DM. He would also be a superb deputy to Casemiro and would do just as well beside him in situations where we need more bite and control in midfield.
He's still at Ajax but you're right. We need someone excellent on the ball and that he is not. Maybe he could step it up at a bigger team. Who knows.Has Alvarez not gone to Dortmund? He was being heavily linked with West Ham too at one stage. Alvarez is decent defensively but is extremely limited on the ball and not sure he'd survive the step up to the premiership very well and certainly not for a top six team.
Everyone except United are flogging off the deadwood to Saudi, Ronaldo have probably banned the Saudis from buying United players.
