So let's talk about Eddie Howe....

2 man midfield said:
I have, he won the Scottish first division and a couple of cup winners cups. The way some carry on in here you’d think the only way thing that qualified you for such a prestigious job would be multiple trebles in 5 different leagues. Even 3 champions leagues in a row isn’t enough for some.
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Fans on here are a bit clueless with how management works, especially in football. The idea that you have to prove yourself is a very archaic one and a defensive mindset. On on hand you want free flowing attacking football and on the other hand you're not even willing to take the risk for that.

You want attacking football with proven experience? Sign Arsene Wenger then by that logic. I know I'd much rather take Eddie Howe.
 
2 man midfield said:
I don’t think people on here nowadays would be keen on us choosing someone who’d won the SPL though. There’d still be people claiming whoever it was needed to prove themselves in a better league first.
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First off the Scottish league Fergie won was far superior to the league today

Secondly the Aberdeen team he won the cup winners cup with would challenge Man City for the premiership today

Fergie was more than qualified to take over United when he did .

Comparing his record with Aberdeen at that time to Eddie Howe's now is a joke .
 
shamans said:
Fans on here are a bit clueless with how management works, especially in football. The idea that you have to prove yourself is a very archaic one and a defensive mindset. On on hand you want free flowing attacking football and on the other hand you're not even willing to take the risk for that.

You want attacking football with proven experience? Sign Arsene Wenger then by that logic. I know I'd much rather take Eddie Howe.
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Yeah I agree. It’s natural to want to minimise the risk but that’s the game. Spurs took a risk, and it paid off. Barcelona took a risk with Pep, Arsenal with Wenger and so on. I understand that some on here with be naturally very resistant to a so called ‘risky’ appointment after Moyes, but there are no certainties in football management anymore. Jose was as close to a sure thing as it gets in my opinion, and we’re probably about to bin him off after just 2 years.
 
johanovic said:
It´s always good when people full of infinite wisdom enlighten you with their wisdom. I know nothing about you but I assume you to be a person with deep football knowledge since I have only about 16 years experince playing and coaching at various levels. But when talking to a person off your high knowledge I should perhaps ask you what is so totally wrong with the idea I put forward. Normally when talking to people of your high football IQ you get the reasoning behind their thoughts but once in a while there are people that are so smart that they skip that part. The reality of the matter is that the Man Utd squad is in need of major rebuild and these thoughts of mine are not about buying the Ronaldos,Neymars and Messis of this world but totally realistic options for Man Utd in part financed by selling players that are not good enough for this club. But all the best to you and hopefully you will enlighten me again in the future, it´s always good to hear from somebody full of wisdom.
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Relax, I was quoting Kolarov sarcastically, think you didn't recognize the quote. For what it's worth, I like your squads. And I am not full of infinite wisdom.
 
Does seem much of the board would like Pochettino but prising him away from Spurs remains pretty difficult and Real Madrid will probably be on the scene next summer aswell.
 
Sir Scott McToMinay said:
You’re not wrong, unfortunately there’s a very slim to non-existing chance we’ll go for him, E.D will probably go for another big name and a proven winner, he’ll go for Capello or something.
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Capello or Big Sam, either or. If we can't attract either, given the interest in their services, we can settle for Sven
 
Varun said:
Which is why we should try and get him now and give him half a season to settle. For a club who spend like virgins in a brothel when it comes to player, penny pinching in sacking managers is ridiculous
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I don't think he is going to leave Bournemouth in them middle of the season after having managed them for so long. It would be extremely disrespectful to leave them now when they are having their best ever season in the league. The chances are getting him now are very low to nil. imo.

The best thing to do right now will be to sack Jose, appoint a dof and a caretaker manager to save the season, which is clearly headed towards a disaster. Chelsea have hired caretakers multiple times with success. It's stupid we are so reluctant to try it.
 
ErranMorad said:
I don't think he is going to leave Bournemouth in them middle of the season after having managed them for so long. It would be extremely disrespectful to leave them now when they are having their best ever season in the league. The chances are getting him now are very low to nil. imo.

The best thing to do right now will be to sack Jose, appoint a dof and a caretaker manager to save the season, which is clearly headed towards a disaster. Chelsea have hired caretakers multiple times with success. It's stupid we are so reluctant to try it.
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Agree with you on both parts. And we should go for Howe or Pochettino. My personal preference would be Howe in the summer, as getting Pochettino away from Spurs would cost us. And Spurs would then hire Howe as their replacement.
 
Interesting to see how he gets on today, really tough game for them, Liverpool often tear the arse out of teams that try to play football against them
 
Just saw an interview with him on Danish tv. Seems like a genuinely nice bloke.
 
T00lsh3d said:
Interesting to see how he gets on today, really tough game for them, Liverpool often tear the arse out of teams that try to play football against them
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Bournemouth will tear Liverpool a new one for 30 minutes then they'll get slaughtered in the 2nd half. Bournemouth are very predictable, the only question is if they score enough to get a result before they inevitably capitulate. They are the anti-United, we only really show up in 2nd halves of games.
 
breakout67 said:
Bournemouth will tear Liverpool a new one for 30 minutes then they'll get slaughtered in the 2nd half. Bournemouth are very predictable, the only question is if they score enough to get a result before they inevitably capitulate. They are the anti-United, we only really show up in 2nd halves of games.
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Actually for the first 20 mins it's been all Liverpool and now Bournemouth are coming into the game.
 
Man this team pass the ball well. It’s not just pointless sideways stuff, they actually try to get in behind the opposition
 
duffer said:
Actually for the first 20 mins it's been all Liverpool and now Bournemouth are coming into the game.
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I didn't say it had to be the first 30 minutes :D

Bournemouth usually have a period in the game where they are unplayable then they eventually gas themselves. Unfortunately, the linesman decided to kill all their momentum since Bournemouth were on top when Liverpool scored.
 
A higher standard squad playing these tactics would be great to see, when you think how good this bournemouth team passes the ball around. I think defensively there's a lot of question marks though.

Miles better to watch than us, they actually move!
 
There - rolls over for Liverpool, predictably.

Lets stop talking about putting this joker in the most prestigious job in English club football.

He's miles off it.

The managerial equivalent of Jordan Pickford - good for mid-table, not for the elite.
 
Rhyme Animal said:
There - rolls over for Liverpool, predictably.

Lets stop talking about putting this joker in the most prestigious job in English club football.

He's miles off it.

The managerial equivalent of Jordan Pickford - good for mid-table, not for the elite.
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You talk as if Bournemouth had a chance today. They’re not expected to beat Liverpool. Doesn’t mean he’s a mediocre manager
 
Rhyme Animal said:
There - rolls over for Liverpool, predictably.

Lets stop talking about putting this joker in the most prestigious job in English club football.

He's miles off it.

The managerial equivalent of Jordan Pickford - good for mid-table, not for the elite.
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Are you using this game to judge him?
 
septic said:
You talk as if Bournemouth had a chance today. They’re not expected to beat Liverpool. Doesn’t mean he’s a mediocre manager
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But if he's that special as some people say on here, so special that some even want him to manage us then he should be able to get a result against top teams at home. They are doing nothing against Liverpool, lost to Arsenal, even lost to us who are having a nightmare season. I don't see the hype around this guy. He would probably be a Moyes mk2, though tactically wise he is light years above Moyes.
 
Because his teams go for it, they are always likely to concede, especially to superior sides. Any fool can put 10 men behind the boys (think Benetiz, Wagner, Dyche, Warnock etc) but it is a lot harder & less forgiving to take chances if you are a smaller side. Fulham spring to mind, & the manager lost his job. At least Jokanovic tried. Rather have managers like him & Howe any day than these cowardly negative types.
 
BlueHaze said:
But if he's that special as some people say on here, so special that some even want him to manage us then he should be able to get a result against top teams at home. They are doing nothing against Liverpool, lost to Arsenal, even lost to us who are having a nightmare season. I don't see the hype around this guy. He would probably be a Moyes mk2, though tactically wise he is light years above Moyes.
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This.

It's just yet another case of hyping up English talent - albeit managerial talent in this case.
 
He’s just another Brenton to me. Brentons short coming was he couldn’t coach a defence and wasn’t tactically flexible. He was one dimensional. Maybe Eddie Howe should tell Steve Cook to stop trying to be Beckenbauer from the back and keep it simple.

My problem with him is he doesn’t have a plan b when things aren’t going right. It’s just the same constantly and teams will figure you out.
 
RedSky said:
Agreed. But his record against the Top 6 is very bad. Concedes a lot of goals.
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Wins over United, Liverpool, Chelsea & Arsenal.

Not really sure what people expect, Bournemouth are a tiny team who almost were out of business in 2009. And it's not like their rise has been off the back of a injection of billions
 
Bojan11 said:
He’s just another Brenton to me. Brentons short coming was he couldn’t coach a defence and wasn’t tactically flexible. He was one dimensional. Maybe Eddie Howe should tell Steve Cook to stop trying to be Beckenbauer from the back and keep it simple.

My problem with him is he doesn’t have a plan b when things aren’t going right. It’s just the same constantly and teams will figure you out.
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Who has a plan B though? Well I know one who has plan B - defensive is plan A and fellaini is plan B. Outside of that where do you see it?
 
starman said:
Wins over United, Liverpool, Chelsea & Arsenal.

Not really sure what people expect, Bournemouth are a tiny this team who almost were out of business in 2009. And it's not like their rise has been off the back of a injection of billions
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They've spent a third of our budget in the last 3 seasons. That's not too bad.

The problem is they average 2.5 goals conceded against the Top 6. That record is not good. His way of playing does work against the rest of the league though, but his big management isn't good and it's a blot against his CV right now.
 
starman said:
Wins over United, Liverpool, Chelsea & Arsenal.

Not really sure what people expect, Bournemouth are a tiny this team who almost were out of business in 2009. And it's not like their rise has been off the back of a injection of billions
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I wouldnt take any notice of anyone basing an opinion of one game especially when it lacks any context
 
BlueHaze said:
But if he's that special as some people say on here, so special that some even want him to manage us then he should be able to get a result against top teams at home. They are doing nothing against Liverpool, lost to Arsenal, even lost to us who are having a nightmare season. I don't see the hype around this guy. He would probably be a Moyes mk2, though tactically wise he is light years above Moyes.
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With Howe's style, it'd be hard to get a result against teams that operates on resources over 10 times bigger. The most realistic way of getting a result against teams like Liverpool and City is to put everyman behind the ball, which is what Dyche, Allardyce, Moyes etc usually do, and which is something Howe would probably never do. That alone sets Howe apart from all other British managers that his detractors try so hard to lump him next to.
If Howe is able to achieve what he has achieved for Bournemouth with that playing style and operating on meagre resources, then imagine what he'd do with bigger resources and better, more talented players - he'd probably do wonders.
The only concern is if he'd be able to handle the dressing room and the off-pitch part of things. Anyone that doubts his on-field and coaching ability really does not deserve to be taken seriously.
 
starman said:
Wins over United, Liverpool, Chelsea & Arsenal.

Not really sure what people expect, Bournemouth are a tiny this team who almost were out of business in 2009. And it's not like their rise has been off the back of a injection of billions
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Exactly this. The team despite performing well is much worse than any of the big 6 squads and only cost a fraction of these squads in terms of wages. Do people really want to make the claim that he can only be considered a good manager if he constantly manages to beat top 6 teams with a squad like that?
 
RedSky said:
They've spent a third of our budget in the last 3 seasons. That's not too bad.

The problem is they average 2.5 goals conceded against the Top 6. That record is not good. His way of playing does work against the rest of the league though, but his big management isn't good and it's a blot against his CV right now.
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His teams usually try and have a go against the big teams, which is probably why they tend to concede, given the gulf in class between the squads. I thought a manager that's not afraid to have a go at teams is exactly what we're all crying out for.
 
Nanotron said:
Who has a plan B though? Well I know one who has plan B - defensive is plan A and fellaini is plan B. Outside of that where do you see it?
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Plan b doesn’t need to be just long balls or pass to Fellaini you know. It can be a wide variety of things from pushing your team slightly deeper to playing out wide rather than through the middle to stretch the play.

Fergie knew when he came up against better sides than us that he needed to change his approach especially those Arsenal games. Howe does the same predictable stuff against the top 6 and gets picked off. No wonder he doesn’t get any results against them.

He’s too predictable for my liking and screams another Brenton to me. I don’t see how anyone would prefer Howe to someone like Jardim if they want a team builder.
 
shaky said:
His teams usually try and have a go against the big teams, which is probably why they tend to concede, given the gulf in class between the squads. I thought a manager that's not afraid to have a go at teams is exactly what we're all crying out for.
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I admire it, but to ignore Bournemouth conceding 102 goals in 41 games against the top clubs is foolhardy.

We can admire when they do well against the smaller clubs but we should also be concerned when they get smashed by the bigger ones.
 
Can we kill this thread now it has been by far the most embarrassing thread iv seen on here .

The guy is completely clueless at this level and would be the biggest mistake we ever make in appointing managers..

His one tactic in games against the top team is suicide with no plan b
 
RedSky said:
They've spent a third of our budget in the last 3 seasons. That's not too bad.

The problem is they average 2.5 goals conceded against the Top 6. That record is not good. His way of playing does work against the rest of the league though, but his big management isn't good and it's a blot against his CV right now.
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It's the rest of the league they are competing against. But they do have it them to beat the big boys. IIRC Moyes didn't even beat a top 4 team.
 
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