So let's talk about Eddie Howe....

[ErranMorad]

I'm slowly leaning towards Howe. I like how he conducts himself. Seems a classy guy.

I was sold early on in the interview when he said, "I wanna play attractive football. I want people to wanna pay to come watch my team".

That's SAF's philosophy in a couple of sentences. He would be a United manager next season if it was up to me.

However, I also know the reasons why we wont take a bet on him:

• We only fire managers when it becomes mathematically impossible to get top 4. And when that happens it kind of becomes imperative to get into the CL the season after due to the Adidas clause. That is the reason why Eddy won't hire him & would look for another "ready-made" solution.
  
• He mentions how he is hands on with his players and likes players who are more receptive to his ideas; kinda like Pep. However, Eddy's approach is to get into dick swinging contests and sign ready made players for big sums. "Do things that no one else can do", "Make United the adult version of Disneyland", etc. etc. Howe will require younger, fresher players who he can mold into his philosophy. That is antithetical to our current approach under Master Eddy.
  
• Hiring him will require us to give him some time as it is kind of a big step up for him. And we don't afford ourselves that luxury. He will require time to get the players he wants and apply his philosophy. And Eddy can't give him that time at the expense of sponsors. Adult version of Disneyland requires constant drama and clowns.

I think he'll go to Spurs when Poch leaves and continue the good work that he started there. And us, after our fourth & fifth failed manager (probably Allegri & Ancelotti), would be wondering why we didn't get him earlier.

 

[Needham]

Agree with you but I belive we have the following players able to work out in playing for Eddie Howe:
De Gea,Dalot,Lindelof,Shaw,Tuanzebe,Pogba,Pereira,Lingard,Fred,Herrera,Rashford,Martial,Lukaku
I would belive these players should be moved on:
Bailly,Jones,Smalling,Rojo,Young,Valencia,Darmian,Fellaini,Matic,Sanchez and Mata(like the guy a lot but no mobile enough)
We have a very promising batch of young players in:
O´Connor,Laird,Barlow,Gomes,Chong,Traore,Garner,Greenwood
If we would sign some of the players of the following calibre things would start to look a whole lot better:
De Light (Ajax), Skriniar(Inter),Koulibaly(Napoli), Kante(Chelsea),Ndombele(Lyon),de Jong(Ajax)Lozano(PSV) Malcom(Barca)Dembele(Barca)Sancho(Dortmund)Sessegnon(Fulham)

Having a squad like:
GK: De Gea, J Pereira, Henderson
Right back: Dalot,Laird,O'Connor
Centre back:Koulibaly,Lindlof,Skrinar,Tunzebe
Left back:Shaw,Sessegnon
Midfield:Pogba,Kante,De Jong,Fred,Herrera,Peireira,Gomes,Garner,Traore,Barlow
Wings:Martial,Lozano,Sancho,Lingard,Chong,
Strikers:Lukaku,Rashford,Greenwood

You have to be conscious that you know nothing about football.

 

[the chameleon]

Why do you want us to repeat the same mistake as Moyes ?

Like any decision, it's a risk! Liverpool getting Klopp was a risk. Man City getting Pep was risk! Barcelona giving Pep a chance was an even bigger risk! Us getting Mourinho was a risk! Real Madrid getting Zidane was a big risk!

I think it's a bit short-sighted to compare him to Moyes!

Do Eddie Howe's values match the values of Manchester United (i.e. young players, entertaining football etc)? Check

Does he play progressive football? Check

Yes they both came from non-elite clubs, but that shouldn't be a factor when hiring a manager!

 

[Cloud7]

He's an open question in terms of having the temperament for a big club. But he should be a definite option for top 6 clubs.

United's obsession with only ever going for players and managers with CVs so stacked that there is hardly any room left to add more is exactly why they are in this predicament. All the other top clubs around Europe are comfortable making "risky" appointments with managers they believe have the talent for it and have won plenty doing so

Correct, and United fan’s obsession for it is just as bad.

 

[Stick]

I really like Howe as as man manager. He is excellent at getting the most out of players while also making difficult decisions. He handles himself extremely well in front of the cameras and has built a great affinity with the supporters at Bournemouth. His teams also play attractive football. I would say he is a future top 4 coach but needs a team to take a punt.

 

[Varun]

I was sold early on in the interview when he said, "I wanna play attractive football. I want people to wanna pay to come watch my team".

That's SAF's philosophy in a couple of sentences. He would be a United manager next season if it was up to me.

However, I also know the reasons why we wont take a bet on him:

• We only fire managers when it becomes mathematically impossible to get top 4. And when that happens it kind of becomes imperative to get into the CL the season after due to the Adidas clause. That is the reason why Eddy won't hire him & would look for another "ready-made" solution.
  
• He mentions how he is hands on with his players and likes players who are more receptive to his ideas; kinda like Pep. However, Eddy's approach is to get into dick swinging contests and sign ready made players for big sums. "Do things that no one else can do", "Make United the adult version of Disneyland", etc. etc. Howe will require younger, fresher players who he can mold into his philosophy. That is antithetical to our current approach under Master Eddy.
  
• Hiring him will require us to give him some time as it is kind of a big step up for him. And we don't afford ourselves that luxury. He will require time to get the players he wants and apply his philosophy. And Eddy can't give him that time at the expense of sponsors. Adult version of Disneyland requires constant drama and clowns.

I think he'll go to Spurs when Poch leaves and continue the good work that he started there. And us, after our fourth & fifth failed manager (probably Allegri & Ancelotti), would be wondering why we didn't get him earlier.

Which is why we should try and get him now and give him half a season to settle. For a club who spend like virgins in a brothel when it comes to player, penny pinching in sacking managers is ridiculous

 

[Kapardin]

I really like Howe as as man manager. He is excellent at getting the most out of players while also making difficult decisions. He handles himself extremely well in front of the cameras and has built a great affinity with the supporters at Bournemouth. His teams also play attractive football. I would say he is a future top 4 coach but needs a team to take a punt.

I have doubts as to whether Howe can handle a step up so quick, but I am so sick of our current state that I would be more than happy to give him the chance. Give him a 1.5 year contract like Everton gave Allardyce and see what he can do to salvage our season. I am sure he will accept it if he is confident in his abilities.

 

[Massive Spanner]

at this stage i'd probably take Fr. Ted over Mourinho so Howe seems like a good option.

 

[Massive Spanner]

Which is why we should try and get him now and give him half a season to settle. For a club who spend like virgins in a brothel when it comes to player, penny pinching in sacking managers is ridiculous

yeah, I'll never understand the argument that you should wait until the summer before hiring a manager. Our season is already a complete write-off so what's the harm in giving him a few months to assess the players he currently has? Nobody is expecting him to actually do anything with the team this season. Klopp took over Pool at around a similar time and it most definitely helped them.

We seem to have this weird obsession with giving a manager a 'clean slate' from the summer which is just dumb.

 

[Zlatattack]

Jose was a top manager for a certain period, no manager who literally can’t finish a third season at a club without losing the dressing room/getting sacked is a top manager in my book.
We’re not in 2010 anymore, it’s been almost a decade, his tactical ideas are dated and his man management is a joke.

100% agree with this. Clough was a top manager, his time came to an end with a bump. LvG was a top manager, Wenger was a top manager, none of them are anymore.

 

[Zoo]

Still don't understand this talk of him possibly managing United, sure he is a bright young manager who gets his team to play nice football but that's about it. He is Mr Bournemouth having spent 11 years there as a player and close to a decade as a manager there, he has full stability and is in a comfort zone there. The one time he left it to go up north with Burnley it didn't last or go well.

 

[Matt007a]

It's actually quite rare for any manager to stay at the top for more than 10-15 years. Mourinho will go down as the best manager of the 00s probably, but his time has seemingly come to an end.

Howe is a risk for a few reasons, but that doesn't mean he should be dismissed. I see the point about players not wanting to sign for us with a manager who hasn't worked at the top level previously, but I think you have to question whether players want to sign for us with Mourinho either? I don't think they do.

As for commanding respect from the bigger egos, you only have to listen to an interview with him for 5 minutes to have complete respect for the guy. There are different ways of commanding respect, it's not all about reputation or waving your CV around. No one has a bad word to say about him which suggests he is an extremely good man manager. That alone will be enough to command the respect he needs within the dressing room. His style of football will also help him win over the players.

 

[SilentWitness]

I think people are right to be wary about appointing him purely based on his Bournemouth tenure. Of course he is doing magnificently with the resources and squad he has, including elevating players from League 1 to the Premier League but we have seen with other managers previously who have done this that sometimes the pressure of a big club can be too much. Moyes with us is the best example of a manager who bought shrewdly/elevated lower league players to PL standard but then couldn't replicate that at a bigger club. Dyche more recently is another example, whereby they had a really poor EL campaign and now they're doing atrociously in the league after a brilliant 17/18 season.

As a counter to that though he does seem to play a style of football that matches the top clubs in Europe at the moment i.e City, Barcelona etc., that is quite clearly the way you need to play to be a top side in this era, and he has an eye for top talent - Brooks was a fantastic signing and would be my YPOTY so far.

 

[lsd]

Like any decision, it's a risk! Liverpool getting Klopp was a risk. Man City getting Pep was risk! Barcelona giving Pep a chance was an even bigger risk! Us getting Mourinho was a risk! Real Madrid getting Zidane was a big risk!

I think it's a bit short-sighted to compare him to Moyes!

Do Eddie Howe's values match the values of Manchester United (i.e. young players, entertaining football etc)? Check

Does he play progressive football? Check

Yes they both came from non-elite clubs, but that shouldn't be a factor when hiring a manager!

Short sighted to compare him to Moyes but you are happy to compare him to Pep,Klopp and Jose ?

 

[sunama]

I think most of you don't quite understand just how big the job at MUFC is. The responsibility. The pressure. The weight of expectation.

Eddie Howe may want to play attacking football, but if he were to be appointed at MUFC, like Moyes, he'd be swallowed up by the sheer size of the job.
Jose is under immense pressure (just like Moyes and LVG before him) and they all crumbled.
If Howe were hired, I'd expect him to age 10 years and be fired, both within a year.

In fact, I'd go so far as to say that if Woodward does hire him, it would be grossly negligent and if it does fail, I'd put the blame squarely on Woodward for hiring someone without the relevant experience.

 

[iHicksy]

I'd take him in a heartbeat. But again, we'd need the structure in place to support him. The DoF and other areas need addressing. We can't expect a manager to come in and be responsible for every aspect of the club as it stands, which is what we do. We need to be able to place the manager within a coherent structure where his job is to get the best out of the players and to work with the DoF on identifying and signing players. Not appoint dorris the tea lady and re-vamp the youth system whilst doing multiple interviews for MUTV.

 

[sunama]

Like any decision, it's a risk! Liverpool getting Klopp was a risk. Man City getting Pep was risk! Barcelona giving Pep a chance was an even bigger risk! Us getting Mourinho was a risk! Real Madrid getting Zidane was a big risk!

Klopp had already competed for league titles and CLs, before he moved to LFC.
Pep - I believe he had already coached the Barca B team. Someone correct me on this. This effectively prepared him for the "big" job. Also, take note that Pep was a once in a generation gem. Most managers with no experienced of managing a big club, will fail. Both ZZ and Pep had some excellent players at their disposal, when they arrived. The sort of players who win Ball on dor's. The players we have in our club, Jones, Fellaini, Lingard, etc, are in no way Ball on dor candidates.

 

[2 man midfield]

Like any decision, it's a risk! Liverpool getting Klopp was a risk. Man City getting Pep was risk! Barcelona giving Pep a chance was an even bigger risk! Us getting Mourinho was a risk! Real Madrid getting Zidane was a big risk!

I think it's a bit short-sighted to compare him to Moyes!

Do Eddie Howe's values match the values of Manchester United (i.e. young players, entertaining football etc)? Check

Does he play progressive football? Check

Yes they both came from non-elite clubs, but that shouldn't be a factor when hiring a manager!

I want Eddie Howe here too, but Klopp was anything but a risk. Liverpool were languishing in and around 7th place at the time he took over. It was actually a huge coup for them to secure the services of one of the worlds best coaches.

 

[Kapardin]

I think most of you don't quite understand just how big the job at MUFC is. The responsibility. The pressure. The weight of expectation.

Eddie Howe may want to play attacking football, but if he were to be appointed at MUFC, like Moyes, he'd be swallowed up by the sheer size of the job.
Jose is under immense pressure (just like Moyes and LVG before him) and they all crumbled.
If Howe were hired, I'd expect him to age 10 years and be fired, both within a year.

In fact, I'd go so far as to say that if Woodward does hire him, it would be grossly negligent and if it does fail, I'd put the blame squarely on Woodward for hiring someone without the relevant experience.

With Moyes, there were 2 factors. He was inheriting a title winning team, a club regarded as among Europe's best and some big egos. Secondly, Moyes himself was an untalented coach.

In comparison, Howe would be inheriting a club currently in 7th, shorn of big egos bar Pogba and being regarded as an also-ran in Europe (CL), on par with EL level teams. He appears more savvy than Moyes.

You are exaggerating the pressure. Fans expected Moyes to win leagues and CLs. There will be zero pressure on Howe to achieve that for at least 2 more seasons. Plus, he inherits a fan base who tolerated Moyes till April, backed LvG to the end and cheer for Jose if his team so much as manages to string a pass, let alone play attacking football! What pressure, we haven't even sacked Jose yet!

Expectations for Howe would be at an all-time low. Get Top 4 and play watchable football. He will only be under pressure after 2 seasons and if he's good enough, would have adjusted to cope with it by then.

 

[Mb194dc]

Can't see Eddie Howe as Utd manager. He'd be another Moyes, probably worse. Grossly underqualified.

He's never competeted for trophies under pressure at the top level. A 2nd rank club like Spurs, Everton, Valencia, Seville etc should be his next move. If he's winning trophies and competing for the top 4 for a few years then he could try the step up.

 

[izec]

Ideally, he would go to Everton or maybe Spurs next. But he could turn out to be a goldmine or completely wrong at a top club. Hard to tell, but we arent in a great position to attract the best managers. There arent even a handful of managers we could take currently and some other top clubs will need managers too. I think it wouldnt be the worst thing to hire him, at least he lets play good football, not like Moyes, so he would have my support. If Zidane wouldnt be available and Poch stays, i dont see many better options.

 

[2 man midfield]

Can't see Eddie Howe as Utd manager. He'd be another Moyes, probably worse. Grossly underqualified.

He's never competeted for trophies under pressure at the top level. A 2nd rank club like Spurs, Everton, Valencia, Seville etc should be his next move. If he's winning trophies and competing for the top 4 for a few years then he could try the step up.

I don’t get this argument, I think it’s a lazy comparison really. What had Moyes actually done with Everton? Taken them from relatively close to relegation and stabilised them as a top half side? Broke into the top 4 once when only 3 of the teams were actually any good? It’s a world away from what Howe has done in his time at Bournemouth, not only through the lower leagues but also in a much more competitive PL.

 

[RedSky]

I don’t get this argument, I think it’s a lazy comparison really. What had Moyes actually done with Everton? Taken them from relatively close to relegation and stabilised them as a top half side? Broke into the top 4 once when only 3 of the teams were actually any good? It’s a world away from what Howe has done in his time at Bournemouth, not only through the lower leagues but also in a much more competitive PL.

In his last 5 season Dave had beaten the top 6 teams 17 times. That's not too bad. That's a 28.3% win rate. Now you could argue that Dave had more resources, started with a better team and was in a less competitive league (all valid points).

But Howe right now has won 5 games against the top 6 in 40 games. Conceded 98 goals and scored 31. Results wise it's not all that great. You can admire his method of playing football, but it wasn't too long ago that people were raving about Martinez at Wigan and look how that turned out.

If you remove the top 6 clubs from his results you get the following: 89 games, 139 scored, 119 conceded and 136points.

I don't think there's too much between Howe and Silva, both play football in a modern way. So if we are wanting to try and modernise our play, Howes probably worth a shot.

 

[CM]

In his last 5 season Dave had beaten the top 6 teams 17 times. That's not too bad. That's a 28.3% win rate. Now you could argue that Dave had more resources, started with a better team and was in a less competitive league (all valid points).

But Howe right now has won 5 games against the top 6 in 40 games. Conceded 98 goals and scored 31. Results wise it's not all that great. You can admire his method of playing football, but it wasn't too long ago that people were raving about Martinez at Wigan and look how that turned out.

If you remove the top 6 clubs from his results you get the following: 89 games, 139 scored, 119 conceded and 136points.

I don't think there's too much between Howe and Silva, both play football in a modern way. So if we are wanting to try and modernise our play, Howes probably worth a shot.

I don't think Martinez at Wigan is a fair comparison. Martinez only coached Wigan at Premier League level and still never came close to a top half finish, and he eventually got them relegated. The intent was there to play good football but it never really came to fruition in the way it has for Howe at Bournemouth.

 

[RedSky]

I don't think Martinez at Wigan is a fair comparison. Martinez only coached Wigan at Premier League level and still never came close to a top half finish, and he eventually got them relegated. The intent was there to play good football but it never really came to fruition in the way it has for Howe at Bournemouth.

Howes only really done it this season though and we're not even half way through (and they just lost 4 games in a row). Last season they started terribly. Martinez got raved about for at least 12 months, I remember thinking how bizarre it was at the time as he wasn't really getting results despite being able to pass it around neatly.

Still think it's a bit early for people to suggest that Howe is doing great at Bournemouth, it could still go horribly wrong for them this season (by horribly wrong I mean drop in form forces them down the table). He's showing promise and I enjoy watching them play at the moment though.

 

[2 man midfield]

In his last 5 season Dave had beaten the top 6 teams 17 times. That's not too bad. That's a 28.3% win rate. Now you could argue that Dave had more resources, started with a better team and was in a less competitive league (all valid points).

But Howe right now has won 5 games against the top 6 in 40 games. Conceded 98 goals and scored 31. Results wise it's not all that great. You can admire his method of playing football, but it wasn't too long ago that people were raving about Martinez at Wigan and look how that turned out.

If you remove the top 6 clubs from his results you get the following: 89 games, 139 scored, 119 conceded and 136points.

I don't think there's too much between Howe and Silva, both play football in a modern way. So if we are wanting to try and modernise our play, Howes probably worth a shot.

Didn’t realise Dave’s record was as good as that against the top 6. I guess 17 wins out of a possible 60 isn’t too shabby, but I think there’s a few things that help him compared to Howe. As you say, the top 6 then wasn’t what it is now, and probably included the likes of a much weakened Spurs and Pool, City not being all that great etc. They also had better players to call upon, Fellaini was always a pain in our arse for instance.

Not only this he played a boring, defensive style of play which was designed to grind out a result against a better team. Considering Howe’s brand of football is arguably his biggest tick against his name, and the football we’ve had to endure for the last 5 years I can definitely see why a lot of United fans are eager to see what he could accomplish with such an open, attractive style when equipped with better players at a bigger club. His style isn’t going to pull off many scalps at a team like Bournemouth, whereas Moyes would. But we’ve tried that here, and we’re all bored shitless. Howe’s style? Let’s see what he can do with some money and better players.

 

[Adam-Utd]

Everton have always been game raisers against the better teams in the league (apart from Liverpool). Same with West Ham, they plod along merrily until the big boys come to play, then they usually pull their big boy pants up and dig in. At least they used to at the Boleyn Ground.

 

[CM]

Howes only really done it this season though and we're not even half way through (and they just lost 4 games in a row). Last season they started terribly. Martinez got raved about for at least 12 months, I remember thinking how bizarre it was at the time as he wasn't really getting results despite being able to pass it around neatly.

Still think it's a bit early for people to suggest that Howe is doing great at Bournemouth, it could still go horribly wrong for them this season (by horribly wrong I mean drop in form forces them down the table). He's showing promise and I enjoy watching them play at the moment though.

They already finished top half the season before last and scored more goals than we did that season. He's done extremely well relative to their resources and the drop in form coincided with three matches against United, Arsenal and City.

He's certainly ready for the step up, it's just whether the United job is a stretch too far.

 

[the chameleon]

Short sighted to compare him to Moyes but you are happy to compare him to Pep,Klopp and Jose ?

No one's comparing him to anyone. All I'm saying that every decision ever has had an element of risk to it.

Appointing Howe today is less of a risk than if we appointed him after Fergie retired.

Do you understand my point now? Or should I spell it out more sir?

 

[lsd]

No one's comparing him to anyone. All I'm saying that every decision ever has had an element of risk to it.

Appointing Howe today is less of a risk than if we appointed him after Fergie retired.

Do you understand my point now? Or should I spell it out more sir?

Appointing Howe is a big a risk as appointing me ie massive .

He has shown absolutelynothing to suggest he could manage a club our size with our expectations .

I will repeat that again absolutely nothing

Taking Bournemouth from league one to the premiership is in now way even remotely a sign he can handle the pressure of Utd .

Moyes was experienced and couldn't cope . Sean Dyche is as qualified as Howe if that's all it takes . Should we look at him too ?

Let him go to Everton or somewhere similar and see if he can improve them and win a cup or reach a final or two.

To take him with what he has shown now would be completely crazy on our part .

Do you want us to get back to the top or just stay around midtable ?

 

[poleglass red]

Appointing Howe is a big a risk as appointing me ie massive .

He has shown absolutelynothing to suggest he could manage a club our size with our expectations .

I will repeat that again absolutely nothing

Taking Bournemouth from league one to the premiership is in now way even remotely a sign he can handle the pressure of Utd .

Moyes was experienced and couldn't cope . Sean Dyche is as qualified as Howe if that's all it takes . Should we look at him too ?

Let him go to Everton or somewhere similar and see if he can improve them and win a cup or reach a final or two.

To take him with what he has shown now would be completely crazy on our part .

Do you want us to get back to the top or just stay around midtable ?

Valid points, but we've been down this route. We hired PL proven in Moyes, didn't fit. We've hired European proven in LVG and didn't work. We've hired PL proven and European proven in Jose and it isn't working. This too big a club mantra doesn't wash with me anymore. It got labelled at Moyes cos it fitted, but it doesn't with Jose and LVG, they've been about big, some might even say bigger clubs than ours and didn't succeed and looked lost at times. I'm not suggesting Howe, but I certainly wouldn't write off his creditinals or a manager in a similiar position ie hasn't managed a top club. Howe's experience is more than what Pep or Zidane had when they started, yet some on here are creaming themselves at the thought of Zidane coming here. The club needs built up, boardroom is rotten, there is no distinctive style of play and what we do get isn't what the fans like. Real were heading for a similiar type scenario with Twinkle toes leaving and some of the old rearguard getting on in age, and Zidane bolted. A so called inexperienced manager with a DOF would work for me, and in that sense Howe could be a logical solution. He's a modern coach, his players work for him and give 100%, which right now is a lot more than we can say about Jose. I certainly wouldn't be opposed to a big name manager but I wouldn't look down on a "lesser" name being given it either. What we need is a manger who will play and fully implement a modern exciting style of football, that was never going to happen with Jose in reality and I'm sure LVG's boring possession game plans must have come up in his discussions with us.

 

[OsloRed]

The comparisons to Moyes are doing my head in. You can't compare the PL in the 00's with the PL today. The difference in income and quality between the top 6 sides today is huge on paper, they are competing on completely different terms.

No one in their right mind should expect Bournemouth to win even a cup with their resources. No disrespect to what Moyes did with Everton, but he has since proven that football has evolved beyond his tactics. Howe is a manager with a modern view on how football should be played, and I would be excited to see how he would do with the resources and player material he would get with a club like us.

Howes track record on improving players is impressive as well, and I think he is a coach that could work well with a DoF. A manager capable of improving players is what we need at the moment, our squad is full of talented players not playing to their full potential. One of the hallmarks of Fergie's teams were players arguably performing beyond their capabiliteis.

 

[Fosu-Mens]

A manager capable of improving players is what we need at the moment, our squad is full of talented players not playing to their full potential.

Yes. It is actually possible to improve a team without buying new players.

 

[Sir Scott McToMinay]

The Moyes comparisons are doing my nut in, such a lazy way of thinking.

 

[2 man midfield]

Appointing Howe is a big a risk as appointing me ie massive .

He has shown absolutelynothing to suggest he could manage a club our size with our expectations .

I will repeat that again absolutely nothing

Taking Bournemouth from league one to the premiership is in now way even remotely a sign he can handle the pressure of Utd .

Moyes was experienced and couldn't cope . Sean Dyche is as qualified as Howe if that's all it takes . Should we look at him too ?

Let him go to Everton or somewhere similar and see if he can improve them and win a cup or reach a final or two.

To take him with what he has shown now would be completely crazy on our part .

Do you want us to get back to the top or just stay around midtable ?

Was winning the Scottish first division enough to indicate that Sir Alex was? He’d done some very promising things, and shown he could beat some top sides, but if we used your criteria back in 1986, who knows what would’ve happened.

That doesn’t necessarily mean we shouldn’t look at managers with experience, (this whole hipster, holier than thou, we’re-a-special-type-of-club-so-let’s-go-with-David-Moyes type attitude got us into this mess) but I don’t think we should dismiss managers like Howe out of hand just because they haven’t managed Real Madrid before.

 

[Rhyme Animal]

Was winning the Scottish first division enough to indicate that Sir Alex was? He’d done some very promising things, and shown he could beat some top sides, but if we used your criteria back in 1986, who knows what would’ve happened.

That doesn’t necessarily mean we shouldn’t look at managers with experience, (this whole hipster, holier than thou, we’re-a-special-type-of-club-so-let’s-go-with-David-Moyes type attitude got us into this mess) but I don’t think we should dismiss managers like Howe out of hand just because they haven’t managed Real Madrid before.

Erm... you might wanna check Fergie's pre Utd resumé and experience a little more thoroughly...

 

[2 man midfield]

Erm... you might wanna check Fergie's pre Utd resumé and experience a little more thoroughly...

I have, he won the Scottish first division and a couple of cup winners cups. The way some carry on in here you’d think the only way thing that qualified you for such a prestigious job would be multiple trebles in 5 different leagues. Even 3 champions leagues in a row isn’t enough for some.

 

[johanovic]

You have to be conscious that you know nothing about football.

It´s always good when people full of infinite wisdom enlighten you with their wisdom. I know nothing about you but I assume you to be a person with deep football knowledge since I have only about 16 years experince playing and coaching at various levels. But when talking to a person off your high knowledge I should perhaps ask you what is so totally wrong with the idea I put forward. Normally when talking to people of your high football IQ you get the reasoning behind their thoughts but once in a while there are people that are so smart that they skip that part. The reality of the matter is that the Man Utd squad is in need of major rebuild and these thoughts of mine are not about buying the Ronaldos,Neymars and Messis of this world but totally realistic options for Man Utd in part financed by selling players that are not good enough for this club. But all the best to you and hopefully you will enlighten me again in the future, it´s always good to hear from somebody full of wisdom.

 

[lsd]

Was winning the Scottish first division enough to indicate that Sir Alex was? He’d done some very promising things, and shown he could beat some top sides, but if we used your criteria back in 1986, who knows what would’ve happened.

That doesn’t necessarily mean we shouldn’t look at managers with experience, (this whole hipster, holier than thou, we’re-a-special-type-of-club-so-let’s-go-with-David-Moyes type attitude got us into this mess) but I don’t think we should dismiss managers like Howe out of hand just because they haven’t managed Real Madrid before.

Fergie broke the celtic /rangers strong hold and won the European cup winners cup .

Howe has done nothing even remotely like that

 

[2 man midfield]

Fergie broke the celtic /rangers strong hold and won the European cup winners cup .

Howe has done nothing even remotely like that

I don’t think people on here nowadays would be keen on us choosing someone who’d won the SPL though. There’d still be people claiming whoever it was needed to prove themselves in a better league first.