I think he's a good if somewhat unspectacular player, play wise he's a bit like Valencia minus the strength in that he's very methodical and I think defensively he's great. Always puts a shift in. He's out of form and his diving is grating.
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I don't think he's United quality really - and never did. On his best days he's a good United player, but on average form I don't think he's good enough and he's done nothing so far to convince me.
His pathetic diving is definitely not improving my view on him. I was hoping he'd cut it out after the criticism he received last season but it seems to be getting worse if anything.
Think he lacks genuine pace to be more of a threat.
He's shite. Anyone that fails to see this lacks any reputable football knowledge
Absolute dog turd. A wasted substitution. I said it another thread, but he must have touched the ball about three times, and he still managed to get in a theatrical dive. Seriously, he's a waste of space.
And a shit load of money!
He's a mildly decent footballer who's just looking even worse because he's out of form at the moment. Whether we actually ever needed him or not is the question though.
When I said he is a cnut after that dive last season when he won us penalty, at least 20 posters lol'd at my post, but now everyone is saying pretty much the same about him. Look who is laughing now bitches. 
When I said he is a cnut after that dive last season when he won us penalty, at least 20 posters lol'd at my post, but now everyone is saying pretty much the same about him. Look who is laughing now bitches.
I don't hate him at all but it's one of those cases where you can't blame opposition fans for holding a strong dislike against him. He's really not helped himself while he's been here.
Why criticise the "dive"?
Why not criticise Eboue for putting his arm out to stop Young getting past?
Why not criticise Eboue for putting his arm out to stop Young getting past?
Well atm we do if we like it or not. If Fergie keeps refusing to play Nani we would be left with only 1 winger without Young.
See I was convinced he wasn't United quality but at the end of last season he was very good and he changed my mind. Since then he had a poor Euro's, got injured and has continued to look poor. I am still willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.
Exactly, I don't hate him too of course, but those things are disgusting to watch, I don't like Real Madrid mostly because of that for example.
He's not even a footballer. He's in fact a garbage man impersonating as a footballer.
Great bandwagon to jump on. Shite, waste of space. Sigh.
Great bandwagon to jump on. Shite, waste of space. Sigh.
Urghh just feck off.
I'm thinking it might be because this is the Ashley Young thread, braniac. The thread for, y'know, talking about Ashley Young.
Because it was one of the worst attempted dives you'll see this season. Everyone commits a foul now and again not everyone thinks its okay to throw yourself over especially as bad as that one.
He doesn't even deserve his own thread.
Of course he does, but I'm just joining this antiYoung campaign.
Of course he does, but I'm just joining this antiYoung campaign.
That was the point I was trying to make, sort of
He goes through spells (when he's in great form) where you could rightfully consider him United quality. When he's any lower than the top of his game though I just don't see the United quality. I'm still hoping to be proved wrong of course.I really don't like the way he plays football.
That slapped arse face he does after he flails too the floor needs to feck off too.
Far from convinced he is a United player.
That slapped arse face he does after he flails too the floor needs to feck off too.
Far from convinced he is a United player.
What was Fergie thinking? Put him on a higher salary than nani and valencia it seems and he does even less. Now nani wants out.
Wish we had signed Mata instead.
You can tell he dives by the way he goes down. He throws his legs apart and puts his head down and it's ridiculously obvious. It was pathetic that that was about all he managed to "contribute" today
This thread has gone a bit OTT. He's a good winger, but out of his depth at United.
This is my analysis from his debut, which I was at.
He's still doing this.
I'm cashing in my chips.
He's still doing this.
I'm cashing in my chips.
Totally agree.
Funny how Valencia on the other side is bullet proof, yet Young cops all the flak.
FWIW, at least Young gives a bit of variety by going down the outside and occasionally coming inside.
Valencia is useless at the moment and completely one dimensional to boot: get ball, shimmy as if to go past defender, stay rooted to the spot, repeat thrice, pass the ball backwards to Rafael.
Valencias shitness doesnt make young any better though.
Been our worst player by a fair distance this season.
To be honest I thought he was going to be a good buy, but nothing he has done since has proved me right. Disappointed in him and hate his diving. I'm hoping that he still proves me right eventually.
He's got a good shot on him but not much else going for him.
True. Just an observation about how fans' perceptions on one player can wildly vary from another, despite *both* being toilet.
He is like a couple of other players in our squad who needs his teammates to do well in order for him to perform better. He is not someone who is going to pull a rabbit out of the hat. I liked and defended him after the Chelsea game but since then his performances have been a bit meh. Still helps out defensively and makes the LB look better. He would excel if we play fast paced one-two pass attacking football like the beginning of last season.
Unfortunately for young he hasnt proven what Valencia has at United. When you've performed well you buy yourself some patience when you go off the boil. A few months at the beginning of last season aside, he hasnt made the impact of a big signing which he was. And its arguable that he isnt good enough to be pushing Valencia, Nani, or Rooney who took up the left side for games this season, for their spots.
I mean isnt the entire reason we bought him that he'd keep Valencia and Nani at their best or they'd lose their places in the team?
Doesnt really work if he's playing just as poorly or worse than they are.
I mean isnt the entire reason we bought him that he'd keep Valencia and Nani at their best or they'd lose their places in the team?
Doesnt really work if he's playing just as poorly or worse than they are.
Not one to slag our players, so i am not going to start now. But i fail to see any logic for regarding him as a better option than Nani.
Nani is superior in every department, bar tracking back. Even if Nani is going, currently playing Young instead of him makes us weaker. I said at the time we signed him i was struggling to see why we would pay £20m for him, and i have to say i still am.
Surely there were far better ways to spend £20m than on Young?
Nani is superior in every department, bar tracking back. Even if Nani is going, currently playing Young instead of him makes us weaker. I said at the time we signed him i was struggling to see why we would pay £20m for him, and i have to say i still am.
Surely there were far better ways to spend £20m than on Young?
Cause Val is the tough guy that never smiles whereas young is diving around. Think that might be one of the reasons many judge young harsher than val. I agree with you though. Both of them have been abysmal this season
Is this a WUM?
He is the anti-Valencia. Always cuts back on to his right and plays a pass back to the centre/Evra or puts in that cross (which to be fair has yielded a few goals...).
Well that's not true, check out Valencia's thread, he has been slated to absolute shit lately. Obviously you'll get a few posters who are blinded by their love of him and fail to see how poor he's been, but generally he's been criticized very heavily. The core difference is that we know, when on form, Valencia is more than good enough to be a first choice winger for the club. Can anyone honestly say the same thing about Young? Hell, I don't even know if he's good enough to be at the club in the first place, even as a squad player. Then there's the astronomical transfer cost and wages too, which will probably annoy people even more.
Still, the reactions in here are totally over the top. I agree he's off form and that there's much more to his game than he's showing. I think most people are just pissed that he's keeping better/more talented players out of the team (not just Nani, so bugger off bitches!), but like it or not, we use wingers and he's one of the few available to us at the moment, so he needs to be given a chance.
In thinking about it for a second we have Valencia and Young who are both very very predictable in what they want to do. Valencia wants to run down the outside of the defender and Young wants to come inside.
And then we have Nani who is extremely unpredictable in what he's going to do so unsurprisingly wires get crossed more often.
It really should be a good blend of styles, so whats gone wrong
And then we have Nani who is extremely unpredictable in what he's going to do so unsurprisingly wires get crossed more often.
It really should be a good blend of styles, so whats gone wrong
Never liked him at Villa nor his pathetic diving. I do understand players falling easily but the likes of Young and Suarez really do my head in.
I am not going to like Young just because he plays for United. Clearly Ferguson having a word with him hasn't worked.
Simply, a moderate player. Doesn't matter that he is a United player.
I am not going to like Young just because he plays for United. Clearly Ferguson having a word with him hasn't worked.
Simply, a moderate player. Doesn't matter that he is a United player.
Just remember, if both are fit, Young will be picked ahead of Nani