He's getting a lot of abuse on his Twitter account: https://twitter.com/search?q=@youngy18&src=tyah&f=realtime
Smashley Young
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Bit harsh. I have 19 regular followers.
Probably get him a little bit of attention.
Presuming the Hitler picture has been there a while the initial surge of attention that may have gotten will have waned.
You mean you have 19 other twitter accounts?
edit: bugger off out of the way popper.
edit: bugger off out of the way popper.
To be fair, if I ran into Valencia I'd play dead too to avoid his furious wrath.
I missed the match, sounds like we should have won. I can't stand diving and he has been called out about it before. I took a look and it looks bad.
Young came on and instantly changed the game. MotM.
Obviously, I meant from his own personal stand-point... what's his motivation not to dive? And seemingly he doesn't really care that it's cheating.
I'd cop a sneaky feel myself, did you see that shot of him walking off the pitch shirtless?
I'd cop a sneaky feel myself, did you see that shot of him walking off the pitch shirtless?
Stop it Dwayne, I'm soaking the carpet at my desk here.It might make him cry?
I wonder how critical of Young would MU fans be if he wasn't some squad player you poached from Villa and who's done very little since his arrival.
If it was RVP or Rooney, I bet they wouldn't get half as much abuse.
If it was RVP or Rooney, I bet they wouldn't get half as much abuse.
You really think a player touching your arm can send you flying?
Why are you trying to take cheap shots here against United fans who are upset that one of their players is embarrassing the club by continually cheating? If anything I find it refreshing that most are not condoning it and want him to stop.
I'm pretty sure if any of our other players repeatedly dived as blatantly as Young has done they'd be heavily criticised too. Once or twice in a 50/50 situation and it would be overlooked by most but Young does it obviously and pretty much whenever he plays.
Yeah, I wonder about things we can't know either. It's like a not so well hidden troll thing I do.
You do know why most people are turning against him? We've had two managers publicly condemn his theatrical dives.
An odd dive wouldnt get anyone much criticism but if RVP started diving the way Young does, he'd get criticised too. As humdinger said, its actually refreshing to see fans opposing such a thing rather than either defending diving because many do it, or just say its the ref's job or worse still say he doesnt really dive that much at all.
Yes, rather than show their disdain for something that actually happened, Utd fans would be far better off considering what they might do in a range of hypothetical scenarios.
The reaction would not be as extreme or consistent across the board, obviously. Doesn't matter what anyone says; the fact that Ashley Young is currently shit at football does not help matters.
It's easier to tolerate cheating if it's not the most prominent aspect of a player's game.Still, doesn't mean that there isn't consistency on here from many people.
We should take a leaf out of Chelsea's book.
Remember how they tore Drogba apart for being the biggest womans blouse in football.
Every team has divers, fans and the powers that be within the game should condemn it and try stamp it out, not take the moral high ground for 5 minutes until someone from their own team does it.
Big or popular players get less stick? Well I never, next we'll be learning that football fans are biased!
Remember how they tore Drogba apart for being the biggest womans blouse in football.
Every team has divers, fans and the powers that be within the game should condemn it and try stamp it out, not take the moral high ground for 5 minutes until someone from their own team does it.
Big or popular players get less stick? Well I never, next we'll be learning that football fans are biased!
His arm was pushed behind him, which yes, can send you flying.
Never in a million years would you think that it was a foul if it were against United. Players are getting soft if that can pass as a foul.
Well the thing RVP and Rooney have going for them is they are our best players and both world class, but if they dived they would still get criticized. Young dives all the time, which adds on to the fact that he's shite and taking away minutes from other better, younger players who would benefit more from them. That's why he gets it the worst. He's already disliked by pretty much every United fan for being useless, but his diving only makes it worse because then it paints the club in a bad image.
It's the same at Liverpool with Suarez. Sure he dives a lot and gets criticized for it obviously, but the fans deal with it because he's undoubtedly a world class player and you need to have players like him. You could argue that United would be better off overall if Young wasn't at United at all because others like Zaha or Kagawa or Nani would be getting his minutes, which we would all rather see.
You obviously can't be serious. If Young considered himself a good footballer then he wouldn't have to send himself flying to gain an unfair advantage for his team. It's not because he's not a Rooney nor RVP he's being singled out, it's becoming far too embarrassing for his managers to be answering questions about it. He should cut it out or sit on the bench.
antihenry is trying to WUM pete style.
That's not really valid because I'm not a Young fan. I want him sold just as much as anyone else here. He's not United quality, is taking playing time away from more talented players and he's pissed me off with diving in the past. I just think on this one occasion he's being harshly criticized. I think the movement of his arm sent him off balance. The defender didn't attempt for the ball, he just nudged Young.
I'd say he attempted to nudge him, but really he didn't. It's obvious from the slow mo that Young chose to fall.
A British nearly fecking a Spanish side through diving? That deserves at least an Oscar. What's next? Will Reo Coker start dribbling like Messi?
Here is a clip from an interview some time ago, where he says that he isn't a diver and he doesn't cheat:
I think you will all find it hilarious in that not only is he dishonest, cheat, a diver, a winger who cannot even beat his man, but is capable of looking into a journalists eyes and tells him he is not a diver, so therefore he is a liar. It couldn't get any worse for him to be honest and if I was Moyes, I'd think about telephoning a couple of friends in the managerial business and try and sell him in January. The longer he stays, the more shame he is going to bring onto this club.
I think you will all find it hilarious in that not only is he dishonest, cheat, a diver, a winger who cannot even beat his man, but is capable of looking into a journalists eyes and tells him he is not a diver, so therefore he is a liar. It couldn't get any worse for him to be honest and if I was Moyes, I'd think about telephoning a couple of friends in the managerial business and try and sell him in January. The longer he stays, the more shame he is going to bring onto this club.
Someone compared him to Suarez...woah, slow down! Young dives a few times a season, Suarez dives several times in ten minutes! Let's not get hysterical.
All I said was, United fans wouldn't give Young that much stick, if he was a key player for the club and contributed to the team success in a big way, like Rooney or RVP. I don't justify his actions, more than that, I was very critical of his diving in the past on this very forum.
It applies to every club support, not just United. We all do that. I hated Drogba's antics, but in my head I often tried to justify his behavior, claiming other fans' bias against CFC and referees judging him by reputation, rather than doing their job. In truth, I just knew he was too valuable for the team. Would I like Drogba more without falling over and moaning? Of course. But you take the good with the bad.
In Young's case, the good doesn't even begin to outweigh the bad because he produces next to nothing as a footballer, and even his diving needs a lot of work.
Maybe I took it the wrong way but what you said seemed like a cheap shot at Utd supporters.
That is a sweeping generalisation and not a good one to be honest. On a personal note, I hated the way Rooney dived against the Invincibles in 2004, in which his dive created a whole series of events that would be detrimental to Arsenals success later on, or lack of should I say. I hated the way Cristiano Ronaldo dived on numerous occasions, yes he scored loads of goals in our favour, but that doesn't make him immune to criticism. Nani has dived a couple of times and I have also criticised him, and finally Adnan Januzaj who dived the other week and I clearly stated that he is a good player and doesn't need to dive, because it was in all fairness, a dive and nothing else. I will criticise a Manchester United for diving or cheating as much as I would criticise Gerrard, Torres, Drogba, Pires et al. It is something that football doesn't need. Just one thing of note, I like Barcelona and I think Neymar is a good footballer, but the number of times I have criticised him for diving or falling over is incalcuable.
Why is Young getting all the criticism? Does no-one care that Hernandez and RvP both missed sitters?
Of course not, everyone in here is a drama addicted quilt. Moaning about Young is more fun for them.
Strachan said it was and Roy Keane said it wasn't. Who are we to decided who is correct or not, it is our opinion that counts.