I wish he'd just feck off never to be seen again. He's a diving, talentless, shit house.
Every time I see him in the team I die a little inside.
Every time I see him in the team I die a little inside.
Smashley Young
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cesc, go back and read the little back and forth of people defending Nani over 'making the most of contact and making sure he got the foul by simulating'.
. It puts all of this into a hilarious perspective.Contact...
I'm thinking at this point that we should replace this word in the rule book with 'damage'.
Until Sky started zooming in on skin cells, we'd revert back to universally accepting that a penalty coming off the back of that would be ridiculous and laughable. All would be well.
I'm thinking at this point that we should replace this word in the rule book with 'damage'.
Until Sky started zooming in on skin cells, we'd revert back to universally accepting that a penalty coming off the back of that would be ridiculous and laughable. All would be well.
Look at him on the ground, screaming out for a penalty.
Christ, what a tool.
Christ, what a tool.
I am honestly at a loss of words here. There was a time not long ago when people were saying it is okay to make the most of contact. If the touch constitutes a penalty, how can you label it as a dive?
Honestly, this is similar to tugging of shirts which happen inside the box. Whether it is or isn't a foul, players are willing to tumble over at a slight tug and claim a penalty.
Contact...
I'm thinking at this point that we should replace this word in the rule book with 'damage'.
Until Sky started zooming in on skin cells, we'd revert back to universally accepting that a penalty coming off the back of that would be ridiculous and laughable. All would be well.
He's a pathetic cnut. Just feck off Ashley.
He's stealing a living.
Him and Suarez are two peas in a pod when it comes to diving and cheating.
The replays showed as much during the match. But to be fair, it probably looked worse from the ref's POV than the reverse angle, which we can see is a non-issue.
Ashley Young's offensive repertoire these days seem to consist of overhit crosses after cutting in, a decent left-peg cross, and the penalty dive. The latter actually puts us in the best position to win.
Still cnutish behaviour though. It's never a good thing when even your own fans slate you.
cesc, go back and read the little back and forth of people defending Nani over 'making the most of contact and making sure he got the foul by simulating'.
Double standards for players? It seems Young does cop some unfair stick on here from time to time. He's the black sheep of United.
Why are you lost for words?
The ref is employed to make these decisions. If he thought the contract warranted a penalty then he would have paid it. Young dived when he clearly didn't need to.
If it was such a blatant penalty then why dive in the first place? Just let the ref make the call when the defender touched his arm.
It's a dive because he fell over when he didn't need to. I think maybe we are just arguing over the meaning of the term 'dive,' and what it actually means. My meaning is not necessarily faking contact, which I take it is what you're saying?
Not much of a mention of Daniel Sturidges dive at the weekend that was blatant!
Meh, if you don't really care either way it makes it much easier to not get wound up.
Exactly, the way I try and keep my sense of perspective when a decision goes for or against us is by looking at it from the other angle and how I'd feel if it happened against us.
And like you say, if Arsenal won a penalty like that everyone in here would be screaming. Of course the Arsenal fans would be laughing and glad for it, but who cares let them laugh.
It's nothing to do with taking the moral high ground as some posters were saying, but we can't be hypocrites with double standards, that's just not the kind of thing I want to see from my players.
How any one, not naming names (Ghali, man-united, mitch), can actually defend that blatant dive is beyond me. Seriously, I can't wait to see the reactions of you 3 when a player deliberately dives against us to win a penalty from minimal contact. You 3 will have no right to moan, bitch or complain if an unfair penalty is awarded against us.
And Mitch, you go and show a video of one of Young's other dive. And I'm not defending that one because I don't approve of that either, but I have more sympathy for contact on the feet that can make a player lose his balance than if a defender puts his arm across a shirt and the player starts tumbling down like he's been shot.
Oh yes Eboue, good post.
Agreed. You should ask Randall about it though. He said its part of the game and we should just accept it . I called him out on it, suggesting perhaps we should practice it in training then? Strangely no reponse.
Christ, that's embarrassing... even worse than I thought yesterday. He can feck off, he's disgracing our club with constant shite like this. Useless player, shit attitude, fecking embarrassing.
Honestly when I first saw it in real time I thought penalty. Seeing the replays it does look like Young made the most out of it and that there was minimal contact. Not defending Young but I could understand the ref giving it as he doesn't have the benefit of replays.
Yeah nobody has slated the ref bud. Just the serial diver who's manager has spoken to him about diving who's reaction is to continue diving.
I remember a kid a primary school got beaten up by a school bully. After that, he would drop to the floor and curl up at the slightest touch for months. Perhaps Young was bullied at school?
I'm a bit surprised he continues to do this in spite of the media reaction he receives from it
Seems Fergie and Moyes 'having words' with him are not enough. Should be fined a good sum and banned for 2 matches, at least! Disgrace.
I actually think he is capable of much more if he gets his head right. Certainly talented, imho. But no future if he continues to do this! Sad.
I actually think he is capable of much more if he gets his head right. Certainly talented, imho. But no future if he continues to do this! Sad.
Wait, hang on. Are people seriously trying to argue that thing was an actual penalty?
feck me. He's a diving cnut and that's a dive as clear cut as anyone you'll see. It's embarrassing.
feck me. He's a diving cnut and that's a dive as clear cut as anyone you'll see. It's embarrassing.
Its as clear a dive as they come mate. There's hardly a tug on his short and just look at the way he goes down with his arms and legs thrown about. embarrassing dive.
Sorry, but rubbish!
The way it turned out to be was justice, was what Eboue meant. We lost matches because of decisions going the other way, a harsh card, penalty not given etc so no point debating either way. It was a decision taken by the refree and it stands immaterial of which side profits from it.
Intentional thearatics and fake appeals should not be tolerated and Young should be punished irrespective of whether we win or lose the match.
He will be sold in the summer. I don't think Moyes is particularly impressed with him but he's a squad player and we need to use him to rotate properly right now.
We need to purchase a top winger and a top centre mid next summer, easier said than done.
We need to purchase a top winger and a top centre mid next summer, easier said than done.
Who would buy him? Let alone pay the sort of wages we apparently are.
Really awful dive, but other than that I thought he played quite well.
This utter cnut is an absolute shit stain on our great club. Who the feck will buy him though? He's like a turd that wont flush.
Hate him. I'm that angry, I'm going to tweet him. That'll show him.
Hate him. I'm that angry, I'm going to tweet him. That'll show him.
Do you really believe he is on £110,000 a week or whatever it is that was rumoured?
We need 2 or 3 CMs. Carrick, Cleverley and unfortunately Fellaini are the only reliable options we have and I think all of them are better suited in a three man midfield, which every other top club in Europe uses but we never do. I don't think Fellaini would look as bad as he has done if he had 2 other midfielders supporting him.
Maybe not that much, but he's probably not far off.
If he is sold and United do get another 'top winger', Young, I suspect will not be the only winger to leave. If Moyes is determined to get rid of Young, it will be on a lowish fee to reflect his alleged high wages.
They should ban cnuts who make blatant dives (like Young yesterday) for a few games if they want to decrease diving. Of course, the biggest blame goes to the player though.
There's Zaha still. Nani/Januzaj and Valencia/Zaha is plenty good enough if you ask me. Then there's Kagawa as well who Moyes seems intent that he can do a job out left. There's really no place for the likes of Ashley Young IMO. I agree that he's probably still playing now because he's a serviceable squad player, and possibly to keep his value as high as possible while the club shops him around. Hard to find any takers though with a weekly wage that high.
It's not that he's a talentless turd, but he's quite possibly the most cowardly United player I've seen in 21 years of watching United.
Who is that?
The dive wasn't the worst about him last night (well it really was tbh) but his football apart from the first 4-5 minutes was completely useless. How many times in a row did he give the ball away ? At one time, he kicked the ball directly in throw-in whereas he had plenty of options to choose from.
Err.. is that a photo of you smiling next to Hitler? Classy stuff all around.
Oh yeah, that's when Moyes went mental at him. I enjoyed that.