Is there an all time dive list?
Smashley Young
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He's just 5 ahead of Downing ffs. Perfect proof that assist stats don't always tell the full story.
One good performance at City and a run against Chelsea quantifies his fee? No I don't buy that. Don't bring Carroll into it everybody realises what was wrong with that transfer fee. He's not worth £18million as he hasn't justified the fee from his performances. Antonio Valencia is admittedly a mess right now but if you look back at his collective effort since 2009, particularly 2011-2012 (one of the finest seasons from a United winger in memory) you could argue his £17million fee has been justified. Young hasn't got anywhere near that standard and this is his 3rd season now.
Jeez, such a negative bunch of cnuts... never happy unless you're slating some united player/manager...
Young
Anderson
Nani
Carrick
Valencia
Evra
Ferdinand
Scholes
Giggs
SAF
Rooney
Fletcher
O'shea
etc...
The list goes on and on... anyone would wonder how we've been so successful with this pile of dross...
Young
Anderson
Nani
Carrick
Valencia
Evra
Ferdinand
Scholes
Giggs
SAF
Rooney
Fletcher
O'shea
etc...
The list goes on and on... anyone would wonder how we've been so successful with this pile of dross...
A cheat who needs a serious talking to
Just seen the dive again 
He's an embarrassment.
He's an embarrassment.
Exactly. Helped us to three points today.
Cheated to help us to three points today
Almost as embarrassed as I was when we bid for Fabregas
And played quite well either side of it. Disappointing to see a player going down easily but I'm pleased with how he played
Moyes has said he's going to.
His cheating didn't help much though did it?
Or maybe it did, that yellow card could help keep him out of a vital match in future!
Ciderman, let's see if Young gets 30+ assists, as you said, this season.
Seriously though, it's annoying enough when one of your top stars goes down dubiously and invites criticism... Rooney, Ronaldo, Nani, they've all been there.
But when it's somebody of Young's ability it's just, well, embarrassing.
But when it's somebody of Young's ability it's just, well, embarrassing.
Good news, I know it's a loosing battle but it needs to be stamped out of the game.
His cheating didn't help much though did it?
Or maybe it did, that yellow card could help keep him out of a vital match in future!
Nice way of looking at it
He had a good game today against what was a very week opponent but the thing that irks me about Young is that an 18 year old player came on the pitch for him today and made us look like an entirely different team. I feel that even on a good day against a shitty opponent it's not really much what Young offers to our game.
Definitely better in the second half against 10 men. Looked to be more confident and damaging with the ball rather than trying to be the 'set up' guy all the time.
Get him on the right though please.
Get him on the right though please.
He's gonna fecking start against city now.
Welbeck will start against City.
If you take away the dive... he had a pretty good match... miles better than Valencia today.
But that dive was awful... and although it wasn't "simulation" per se, he was looking to get fouled for the peno
But that dive was awful... and although it wasn't "simulation" per se, he was looking to get fouled for the peno
It was both.
I've not seen him beat the right back for a long time
Just seen yesterdays dive, jeez.
Need to start giving a straight red to anyone who does this now, whoever they play for.
Fair play to Moyes in what he said afterwards.
Need to start giving a straight red to anyone who does this now, whoever they play for.
Fair play to Moyes in what he said afterwards.
Agreed, he blasted Young like pretty much every diver should regardless of who they play for.
Didn't Fergie also once say he will have a word with Young over his dive? Clearly he hasn't learnt.
fecking no chance unless we want to actually lose the game before we start. Welbeck and Valencia wide. Rooney playing just ahead of Carrick and Fellaini.
Well it seems his only worth in the team these days is to win a penalty, from whatever measure he could take.
Tbf Young might give us more in attack than Valencia is right now. Either way right now 2 of Welbeck, Young and Valencia doesn't seem to be particularly creative.
Ignoring the embarassing dive, I thought he played quite well. Although even on an on-day his limited game always shines through.
The dive aside he was actually quite good yesterday. How anybody can complain about Young when we have Valencia playing on the right is beyond me, he's been by far our worst winger for well over a year now and I still don't see any signs of that changing.
Ashley Diver Young was a disgrace and we should start Januzaj, despite his age.
Valencia was OK yesterday, but Young was actually quite good, and that is coming from someone who is usually quite critical towards him. He showed terrific acceleration to win the penalty, which is why I can't understand why he can't do the same to fullbacks. His crossing was decent and he also had a fairly good shot. He does fall more theatrically than Italians in the 90s though.
That list is completely wrong anyway. All-time? You having a laugh? Didn't Henry get nearly 100 assists at Arsenal and it's just plain wrong anyway.
David Beckham - 44 assist?
Yeah it seems way off. Bergkamp would surely be up there too. And Scholes must have got more than 3 assists per season.
Yesterday was his best performance for quite some time, should have scored that chance Anderson made, but it was a good run.
They only started officially keeping assist stats after 2001. Those are numbers since 2001. Giggs must have 250+ or something, unofficially.