Should we consider selling Pogba?

Clermontois said:
Fernandes is more inconsistent.

I have come to the point where I too would rather see Paul play elsewhere though. Artists like him should play where they are appreciated. Lukaku was no artist and is exteremely annoying but even he found life outside of the United bubble to be an improvement for his career.
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I hope you go with him to be honest.
 
Why the feck would we sell Pogba.

Imagine a summer where we miss out on Sancho and sell Pogba. Feckin disaster.
 
I hope Pogba stays but If we have to sell Pogba, I rather buy 2 midfielders from the following Saul/Zakaria/ VanBeek/Grealish/Auoar/.

Pogba(70)/Perrera(15)/Jesse(15)/Dalot(20)/Smalling(20)/Jones+Rojo(15)/Romero(10)=+165M
Lyon's Dembele(40)/Sancho(100)/VanBeek(40)/Saul(60)/BadiaShile(25)= -265M

Signing 5 players will improve our team.
 
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He'sRaldo said:
If we sell Pogba and leave Bruno as the sole creative outlet while focusing on a more defensive midfielder, we'd have learned nothing these past few years.
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There are other similar 'Brunos' out there. Pogba on his day is a brilliant player, unfortunately they are few and far between. He has never hit the stats here that Bruno has in his first season in the same amount of games.
 
I like to see Paul in a 4 man midfield. He will be creative and score goals too if he can play further forward. For that to happen Ole has to drop either Greenwood or Rashford to the bench and play two up front with Pogba and Bruno pushing forward and Fred and Matic in midfield.
 
Clermontois said:
Couldn't care less what you hope for to be honest.

Will definitely watch him and Anthony whereever they play as they are that good.
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You're very aggressive, but for certain kids puberty can be like that. I remember before I had hair in my pits I was personally invested in certain players. You take it to a different level though but it's ok, you just don't know any different. When you are older you'll understand champ.
 
GiddyUp said:
You're very aggressive, but for certain kids puberty can be like that. I remember before I had hair in my pits I was personally invested in certain players. You take it to a different level though but it's ok, you just don't know any different. When you are older you'll understand champ.
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Nothing is more aggressive than referencing your own personal hygiene on an internet forum.

Have a look at your post history before you accuse anyone else fella.
 
It would have made sense to sell him last summer when his stocks were very high - north of a 100m.

No one will buy him in this transfer window when everyone's purses have been hard hit.

And even next year, it won't be easy to get good money for a 28-year-old player on huge wages who comes with "extra baggages." More importantly, he's overrated, and I haven't seen even a stretch of 7-8 consecutive matches where he has excelled consistently.

IMO, it doesn't make any financial sense to sell him anytime soon.
 
Even against Sevilla Pogba was quality at times. He’s better than Bruno in open play. More effective and a better defensive shield to go with it.

He’s the last player we should be selling alongside Martial who is our best attacker by far right now.
 
Foxbatt said:
I do understand where the op is coming from. I don't think he is saying that Pogba is not a class player. But I do question his role and usefulness in the team. I personally think if we play both Matic and Fred with Bruno and Pogba we would be a much better side. Both Pogba and Bruno in and around the box would be much better for us than playing with 3 strikers.
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Swap Fred for a playmaker like Thiago and we’d be in business!

In all honesty though as great as he is Matic needs to be a squad player and to bring in a quicker DM who covers more ground and is more aggressive alongside a more specialised playmaker in the big games.

We can still play with 3 attackers against smaller teams so Thiago as he’s getting slightly older would be great rotation with Pogba who could easily take that space in certain matches and then play further forward in a diamond when the playmaker is on the field.

His experience in big games would be ace to help crowd and control the centre of the pitch and help us not rely on Pogba and Bruno every game.
 
Well, no big offer will be offered to us anyway. So there is no reason to sell Pogba.

The issue about Pogba right now is his contract going to be expired in 2022. He's on our 2nd biggest salary (15m p/y) and I can see that he wants at least the same salary as DDG (19.5m p/y) if he is going to accept new contract.

Unless if there is a club put 110m pounds plus few adds on now then I can understand the reason of selling him, otherwise no because we still need him as he's a top quality player who can help us to win big trophies.
 
Just look at Bayern Munich and PSGs team including their bench options and people want us to sell Pogba? You need strength and depth, how do you expect us to compete if we sell one of our best players? Some of you guys don’t deserve nice things.
 
Yes, let's sell our best players and sign the likes of Brooks... That will get us back to the top.

Our expectations as fans have fallen so sharply.
 
Depends on what we get in return.

I mean what are the reasons we're selling him, and which player(s) we get using the money, definitely need another player at least on the same level or better than Pogba.
 
lilcurt said:
Yes, let's sell our best players and sign the likes of Brooks... That will get us back to the top.

Our expectations as fans have fallen so sharply.
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Nobody said sell Pogba and sign Brooks did they? If so point me to that post, little Curt.

This is a discussion about roles, not quality. I expect that Pogba either plays a different role or eventually we will need to sign somebody of a high quality that fulfills the role Pogba is currently in. It's that simple. If you guys think Pogba would be happy to be considered second choice, should that scenario occur, then good for you.
 
LVGSdive said:
Regarding being injury prone: Yes it is from this season, its the most relevant season is it not? Since it's an indicator of how their bodies are holding up here and now.

What Thiago does better: More control of the game, moves the ball better, better decision making, better technique, better dribbling,better defensively.

Thiago starts for Bayern Munich the best team in Europe right now. I don't think Pogba gets into this Bayern team.
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No point arguing in someone who is completely blindsided to, how many games have have you seen Bayern play except the CL games?
 
sp_107 said:
If we have to sell Pogba, I rather buy 2 midfielders from the following Saul/Zakaria/ VanBeek/Grealish.

Pogba(70)/Perrera(15)/Jesse(15)/Dalot(20)/Smalling(20)/Jones+Rojo(15)/Romero(10)=+165M
Lyon's Dembele(40)/Sancho(100)/VanBeek(40)/Saul(60)/BadiaShile(25)= -265M

With just 100M budget we will have the following team and it is only signing 5 players so this is not even a fantasy league.

Before you say this is not FM or stop playing fantasy league I say this is my fantasy and if you dont like this just step away but if you like to indulge you can share your team given you can spend 140M+players sales money.



------------------------------------------------ Martial/Dembele ------------------------------------------------------------


----- Rashford/James -------------- Bruno/Mata---------------------------------------Sancho/Mason-----


-------------------- VanBeek/Fred------------------------------------Saul/Matic---------------------------------------------


-----Shah/Williams-------------Badiashile/Baily-------Maguire/Lindelof--------------------AWB/Liard

---------------------------------------------------DDG/Henderson------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Yeah, nobody is signing Dalot for £20m. He’d go for £5m at the most. Why would Lyon sell Dembele for £40m?
 
Gopher Brown said:
Yeah, nobody is signing Dalot for £20m. He’d go for £5m at the most. Why would Lyon sell Dembele for £40m?
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Apparently juninho has come out and said that both dembele and auour are likely leaving the club.

I can imagine quite a few clubs may have interest in those two, so not out of the realm of possiblity they get sold for around 30m-40m.
 
romufc said:
No point arguing in someone who is completely blindsided to, how many games have have you seen Bayern play except the CL games?
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Not many. So watching Bayern destroying teams in the Champions League isn't enough to make judgement? Last night I didn't even think they played that well and still easily beat Lyon 3-0 who just knocked out Juventus and City. They won their league so I'll assume that they're doing the same thing to the Bundisliga teams as well.

Besides what am I blindsided to? Pogba being better than Thiago and or being more or less injury prone?
 
LVGSdive said:
Not many. So watching Bayern destroying teams in the Champions League isn't enough to make judgement? Last night I didn't even think they played that well and still easily beat Lyon 3-0 who just knocked out Juventus and City. They won their league so I'll assume that they're doing the same thing to the Bundisliga teams as well.

Besides what am I blindsided to? Pogba being better than Thiago and or being more or less injury prone?
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So you can make a comparison based on a handful games you watch that he has more control of the game, moves the ball better, better decision making, better technique, better dribbling,better defensively?

So they beat Juve and City? We beat City 3 times this season, doesn't mean our players are the all that. Yes, they beat a Lyon team that finished 6th in their league.

Pogba has literally been doing all of that since the restart.
 
sp_107 said:
Pogba(70)/Perrera(15)/Jesse(15)/Dalot(20)/Smalling(20)/Jones+Rojo(15)/Romero(10)=+165M
Lyon's Dembele(40)/Sancho(100)/VanBeek(40)/Saul(60)/BadiaShile(25)= -265M
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Your fantasy is indeed an imaginative one. Kudos.
 
Do not sell Pogba. Instead, invest the energy in figuring out how to get the best out of him. We need him to rediscover the form that we saw during the early days of Ole, a run of form that was every bit as impressive as Bruno's run of form in February and March, in my opinion.
 
pocco said:
For a long time I held out hope thinking that Pogba would have the intelligence to be able to play that deeper role effectively. That he'd learn how to better apply himself to defensive situations and work hard at that part of the game. However, there's a noticeable trend from teams to double up or even triple up on Wan Bissaka, and I think this is because they know that our right sided attacker will not come all the way back, and that Pogba won't help cover his side of the pitch.

We were once opposed to losing him, but Bruno has stolen his importance from a creative point of view in our midfield. In order to build a midfield that properly supplements Bruno, should we consider selling Pogba?
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Good post. The way the midfield moves under Ole has some interesting diferencias as opposed to Mou and Pogba needs more attention in order to

No, the answer is no. Christ. 2020 and we still have Pogba threads relating to his footballing ability. Pogba is fine
 
We wouldn't be able to find an acceptable buyer. He'll be here for another season and will go next summer if a new deal isn't signed in the interim.
 
If you had asked me 6 months ago I'd have said yes. But since the restart he has been fine. More of a team player, mucking in and being more consistent, so why would we sell?
 
Foxbatt said:
I like to see Paul in a 4 man midfield. He will be creative and score goals too if he can play further forward. For that to happen Ole has to drop either Greenwood or Rashford to the bench and play two up front with Pogba and Bruno pushing forward and Fred and Matic in midfield.
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So we play with zero width? Sounds boring as shite.
 
Selling Pogba sounds like a completely stupid idea as long as he himself is not asking to leave. One of our very few players who could get a starting place in nearly each European top team. Maybe our only player who would definitely walk straight into the starting 11 of Real, Juve, PSG, City or Bayern.
 
FootyGirl88 said:
Just look at Bayern Munich and PSGs team including their bench options and people want us to sell Pogba? You need strength and depth, how do you expect us to compete if we sell one of our best players? Some of you guys don’t deserve nice things.
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Well of course the people saying sell Pogba will want him replaced with 1 or 2 players.
jem said:
Do not sell Pogba. Instead, invest the energy in figuring out how to get the best out of him. We need him to rediscover the form that we saw during the early days of Ole, a run of form that was every bit as impressive as Bruno's run of form in February and March, in my opinion.
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Genuine question but has there ever been another top player that's spent four years at a club and no one still knows how to get the best out of him? We really have to consider the possibility that what we see is what we get with Pogba.

Pogba has excelled in every system he's played in at points. His issue isn't the system or position, his real issue is his reading of the game, concentration and mentality. The reason Pogba hasn't excelled here isn't because of a coach or a system IMO, I think its all down to Pogba himself.
 
El Jefe said:
Well of course the people saying sell Pogba will want him replaced with 1 or 2 players.

Genuine question but has there ever been another top player that's spent four years at a club and no one still knows how to get the best out of him? We really have to consider the possibility that what we see is what we get with Pogba.

Pogba has excelled in every system he's played in at points. His issue isn't the system or position, his real issue is his reading of the game, concentration and mentality. The reason Pogba hasn't excelled here isn't because of a coach or a system IMO, I think its all down to Pogba himself.
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Oh believe me, I find him very frustrating at times. He's such a mercurial player. But just allow yourself to dream for a second, and imagine early 2019 Pogba combining with 2020 Bruno, the two of them setting up and interchanging with our dynamic young forwards. That in-form combo could beat any team in the EPL. I know that's all hypothetical, but it's a delicious hypothetical nonetheless.
 
El Jefe said:
Genuine question but has there ever been another top player that's spent four years at a club and no one still knows how to get the best out of him? We really have to consider the possibility that what we see is what we get with Pogba.
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Remember this is post Fergie Utd, who plays Martial as a LW, Mata as a RW, and asks Lukaku to hold up the ball.

I always refer back to Martial as the best example. Play a player in their best role and they'll shine, simple as that. Jose didn't want to do that for Martial and Pogba, and Ole when he first came in fixed the Pogba issue, hence Pogba was flying and Ole got the job. But for some reason he reverted back to a 2-man midfield and playing Pogba very deep, the same as Mourinho. Predictably, his performances dropped from those heights.

I highly doubt the Pogba we're seeing now is the best version possible.
 
I think some on here actively want us to be shit for ever. Is it some kind of fantasy?
Yes indeed, lets sell one of our best players and replace him with a track record of signing poorly in general.
 
If there were buyers yes you go ahead and sell him if you can get 100 mil. There are no buyers. It's not just the fee, it's the wages too. Teams are not looking to add millions to their current wage bill in this pandemic.
Pogba and UTD know this so we will likely resign. If he doesn't resign, we are screwed. He could go for cheap with one year on his deal and UTD not having the money to get someone close to the same talent
 
No, because bla bla bla he is top quality. Bla bla bla top DM around him, bla bla bla top full back around him, bla bla bla top defender bla bla bla Pogba unlocked, bla bla bla nobody has money, bla bla bla commercial value, bla bla bla some more fecking bla bla.

If he loses the ball once again in the central circle with only the CBs behind I'll lose me shit, get to Manchester and smack his head.
Every time I see him showboating in the middle of the park my stomach turns around.
 
Infordin said:
I didn’t watch enough of Rui Costa to make a proper judgement, but Zidane was more agile and mobile than Pogba. He was quicker than Pogba in the first 2-3 steps, which is critical if you want to play that far up the pitch. Pogba is rapid once he gets going, but he isn’t agile.
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I highly recommend looking up some old games to watch him. He was a fabulous player.

I'd recommend the Milan-Madrid game in the 02/03 season. Rui and Rivaldo vs Zidane and Figo.

Clermontois said:
Fernandes is more inconsistent.

I have come to the point where I too would rather see Paul play elsewhere though. Artists like him should play where they are appreciated. Lukaku was no artist and is exteremely annoying but even he found life outside of the United bubble to be an improvement for his career.
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I know what you mean. It's kinda similar to di Maria, though we were right to sell in that case. He's playing in a champions league final tonight while we've been knocked out of the europa league. It'd be the same with Pogba. He'll go on to winning top trophies if we sold him whilst we continue to flounder.

Before we start talking about shipping out one of the few talented players we have, we need to look at the lack of coaching going on. Sort that out and we'll see our players flourish.
 
I'm certain Pogba will stay next season as he's enjoying his football now. What I'm not certain of is Pogba getting a new contract here on the wages he would be looking for. 300,000+ a week and possibly 350,000 a week.

After Pogba I think our highest earners are on 200,000+ a week and giving Pogba 350,000 a week might cause a lot of problems in the dressing room.

I'm thinking now that we have Van de Beek, there might be a feeling among the board that it's OK to let De Gea and Pogba run down their contracts, to try and control the wage structure a bit more.
 
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