Should we consider selling Pogba?

devilish said:
In the very unlikely event that Thiago signs then Fred would be the one leaving.
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Again though that provides a problem as how on earth do you play Pogba, Fernandes, Thiago and Van de Beek every week or in the same team ? Obviously there’s rotation but you’d need to change the team every game to even attempt keeping them all happy.

I think Thiago is an amazing player but I just don’t see where he’d fit or why we’d buy him unless Pogba was going, it’s all good saying Fred would leave but Fred is a squad player who accepts his role as such whereas Thiago won’t for a second accept being back up and would surely cost us at least £250K a week in wages.

Pre COVID-19 there was probably lots of suitors for Pogba and at the price we wanted so Van de Beek and Thiago coming in then would make sense but from everything we’ve seen in the past few months it looks like Pogba is happy and about to sign a new long term contract therefore Thiago is a pointless buy when we need money for Sancho, a centre back, a defensive midfielder and a left back.
 
This is not even a discussion, I can't see him wearing another club's kit in his prime.
 
Out of our first choice starting midfield 3 of Matic, Pogba and Bruno, Pogba seems like to one who can be replaced by Fred or McT and now VdB. Neither of them is a pure DM like Matic while Bruno adds so many goals and assists that he’s irreplaceable.

A few months back, Pogba leaving would’ve been a catastrophe. It would still be a loss but one that we could cope with.

Having said that, there’s no way we should intentionally look to sell him.
 
Pogba... apart from giving away possession a couple of times in bad spots, one which led to a goal no less, has been nothing short of magnificent post the break.

There are things he can do that no one in the world can do in his position as an 8. Pogba is so gifted that when he pulls of genius passes, it is considered normal. Whereas the bar is different for other players.

So tell me Caf, who out there with his experience, age profile and quality is out there that can replace him. Donny? Donny is a class player but you're fooling yourself if you think he can pass at the level Pog can. VDB will develop further. Hell Hannibal will break into this squad in Pogba's position. Aouar? After a good season in Ligue 1? No. We are talking of a WC winning, Serie A winning, mature and technically gifted superstar who hasn't quite lived up to the hype. But he's not old! His best is yet to come.

The real power of Pogba will be unleashed this season. Add Sancho in there... and he will run that midfield and get Bruno in the most delightful of positions and Bruno can do the rest.

Exciting times. Let's not feck it up and sell the man who will be a crucial cog of the new United.
 
davidmichael said:
Again though that provides a problem as how on earth do you play Pogba, Fernandes, Thiago and Van de Beek every week or in the same team ? Obviously there’s rotation but you’d need to change the team every game to even attempt keeping them all happy.

I think Thiago is an amazing player but I just don’t see where he’d fit or why we’d buy him unless Pogba was going, it’s all good saying Fred would leave but Fred is a squad player who accepts his role as such whereas Thiago won’t for a second accept being back up and would surely cost us at least £250K a week in wages.

Pre COVID-19 there was probably lots of suitors for Pogba and at the price we wanted so Van de Beek and Thiago coming in then would make sense but from everything we’ve seen in the past few months it looks like Pogba is happy and about to sign a new long term contract therefore Thiago is a pointless buy when we need money for Sancho, a centre back, a defensive midfielder and a left back.
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In the unlikely event that Thiago signs then I think we'll revert to a diamond 4-4-2 system with Matic as DM, Pogba and VDB/Thiago as mezzalas, Bruno as no 10 with Rashford/Martial and Greenwood/Ighalo as strikers. I don't think it's going to happen though. I believe that we'll make 2 other signings (or possibly 3) ie CB, LB and RW.
 
Definitely no to selling Pogba.
There is now competition with VDB, so if Pogba isnt on form VDB comes into the team.

Sell Pogba, and start with VDB and teh competition is Pereira and Lingard...?!?!
 
Absolutely not.If he wants to sign a new contract and commit his future to the club,then we should offer him a new long term deal immediately.Despite his irritating vibe and occasional off the field shenanigans,he’s a phenomenally gifted player who is a huge huge asset to this team.
 
As with any player, only if suitable replacements are found and we can improve the team or at least not be worse off. I love Pogba, but I'll love another player if they are good and give their all for the team.... unless they are Luis Suarez or something.
 
Foxbatt said:
I like to see Paul in a 4 man midfield. He will be creative and score goals too if he can play further forward. For that to happen Ole has to drop either Greenwood or Rashford to the bench and play two up front with Pogba and Bruno pushing forward and Fred and Matic in midfield.
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Then we lose more goals from a weaker attack. Pogba wont put the same number of goals up than Greenwood and Rashford.
 
If it was a sale where the club said we are getting x amount for Pogba and that will enable us to pay the £108 mill for Sancho, I would want the club to go for it. Otherwise why weaken the team?
 
The only issue I have with Pogba is that he usually only seems to play well when we are playing well as a team, so he makes a team playing well play even better. He rarely seems to play well when the team as a whole is playing badly, I.e. he rarely drags us to victory.
 
He will stay because there will be no takers. If there was no Covid, him and his agent would be talking up a move again.

Also Real and Barca, not only can't afford him, but as teams in general are looking less attractive as both are going through rebuilds.

As mentioned above if a team (probably only PSG) paid the money it would take to get Sancho, I would sell him instantly.
 
No thanks there’s no one good enough in the market to replace him.
 
If Pogba wants to go he will probably just run his contract down so he gets a massive signing fee and salary somewhere else ... if he wants to stay he will sign a new deal
Either way there is little we can do about it and we might as well just get the best we can out of him as a player for the next year and take it from there (who knows if DVB does well perhaps we have a ready made replacement)
 
kiristao said:
So we are finally getting good quality depth in midfield with the singings of Bruno and VdB and people want to sell Pogba?
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Just shows how irrational the thought process towards him is.

Of all the things Mourinho did wrong, turning the fans against our 2 best players (Martial and Pogba) still remains the worst, and you can still see the effects more than a year on. The annoying part is he did the same at Chelsea but we didn't learn from that.
 
Think of how many world class players in our team and then ask this question.

We need to keep our best players not the opposite.
 
Pogba is going to stay. No club could afford or be willing to pay the fee we’d be asking for, which I imagine would be £80 million plus. He seems to have matured since his time off and had some standout performances during the restart. There really is no reason to sell at this point unless he and his agent have crazy expectations for his contract renewal.
 
I think DDG and Pogba are the only 2 world class players we have and it looks like no one can afford his wages either.

It was our mistake to extend DDG on 350K as no one in this world would pay 350K to DDG.
Seems we are learning from our mistakes when I see Bruno/VDB salaries. We shouldn't bend over our backs unless it is totally make sense and same applies to Pogba. We should put him on 300K a week max and anything else to be added as a bonus unlike giving him a new 400K a week contract and expect others to ask for same if they do well.
 
We should be getting rid of Mata, Lingard & Pereira. Discussing Pogba at all now just goes to show how out of touch with reality many people are.
 
pocco said:
What if we used the money to improve the team ie signed a midfielder better suited to playing the role Pogba now plays?
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Take the money and run. And then use the money to buy said "better suited" player. Laugh and rejoice.

Easier said than done, though.

ETA Here and now it just ain't realistic at all - so why even talk about it, that's basically my stance.
 
Amazed how many people are confusing or deluding themselves over world class talent with world class player, he's definitely not a world class player on plant earth.
Or maybe they are more fixated over YouTube compilation video's rather than entire games of football.
Best talent does not equate to best player....
 
We are literally in the verge of having a great team. Look at Bayern trying to add Perisic to Gnabry, coman and Sane. I bet their fans are not saying should we sell coman.
 
flappyjay said:
We are literally in the verge of having a great team. Look at Bayern trying to add Perisic to Gnabry, coman and Sane. I bet their fans are not saying should we sell coman.
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I do not get some fans.

Complain that we have no squad depth - when Pogba or Bruno not playing well, fans complain that we have no one to sub.

Manutd sign a midfielder - Fans think that it is the end of Pogba.. Do we need to keep both McTominay and Fred?

Do people remember last season? we got run to the ground, we had Perreira playing CM in a few games due to lack of numbers.

Players will get tired, injured, suspensions during the course of a season.
 
pocco said:
He's a big name player, which you obviously love. But his effectiveness and suitability to the role he's playing is just not there and is actually causing us problems. What Sevilla and other teams have been doing down our right hand side since Bruno arrived is because of Pogba in part. I'm sorry if you can't see that. This is a genuine question and one that will be asked more and more over the next couple of years if he were to stay.
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This is what i don't really get. We have been arguably the best team in the League after lock down, that's with having both Pogba and Bruno in the side. By the end, with our known poor depth we overplayed virtually the entire first 11 and the team got a bit tired. We had enough chances to win that Sevila game by 5 goals, it just wasn't to be.

From this experience with Pogba and Bruno in the team, the conclusion is that we should sell Pogba? I just can't take these Pogba critics too seriously when the results and evidence always seems to point in the opposite direction.
 
Definitely should not be in any hurry to sell Paul Pogba but gone are the days that I was frightened to lose him. He is a very good "Cherry on the top" type player but we can never rely on him to perform, especially when the chips are down.
 
He has been with us for 4 seasons, playing just 16 games for us this season but it feels like he has been with us forever. At this point, I couldn't care if we sell him because this season shows that we don't actually need him. If we can get a good transfer fee for him and bring in Sancho and add in a top CB, I'm all for it. He's also 27 at his prime now. Pogba must be wondering what he should do now, he's entering his prime and has only won a league cup and Europa League with us, ironically under the manager he fell out with. :lol: he must be regretting his move to us back in 2016. If I were Pogba, I'd push for a move now back to Barcelona/Real Madrid/Juventus where I'm guaranteed a trophy every season.
 
I never have been a fan of Pogba, great hype when he came here , World Cup winner, One of our own returning, but watching him is so frustrating, he is a physical specimen of a man, but seems to just wonder in and out of games.I like many others have been waiting and urging him to get hold of a game and throttle it for us, but it just does not happen.Not sure what goes on in his mind, a talented player who can do a lot of things many other players cannot but seldom do I feel he has had a good game and worked his bollocks of for the team. You cannot compare him with the effort and technique Fernandes has brought to the team,This is what I thought we’d would get from Pogba when we signed him.
 
I can see him staying 1 more season then going back to Juventus next year. I just don't think the board will be willing to pay him the kind of salary he will be expecting. He's an absolutely phenomenal player when on form, unplayable, can see things that no other midfielder can but he's also very inconsistent.

I think Pogba will be looking to get 350,000 a week for his next contract, I think the board here would feel 250,000 a week based on current performances is about right. I don't see an agreement as it could destroy the dressing room. Perhaps Juventus will pay him the 350,000 next season.
I'm certain he'll have a big season for us this year though.
 
Champagne Football said:
I can see him staying 1 more season then going back to Juventus next year. I just don't think the board will be willing to pay him the kind of salary he will be expecting. He's an absolutely phenomenal player when on form, unplayable, can see things that no other midfielder can but he's also very inconsistent.

I think Pogba will be looking to get 350,000 a week for his next contract, I think the board here would feel 250,000 a week based on current performances is about right. I don't see an agreement as it could destroy the dressing room. Perhaps Juventus will pay him the 350,000 next season.
I'm certain he'll have a big season for us this year though.
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If we're paying DDG 350k per week I would think Pogba would have a very good case to take to the board
 
Champagne Football said:
I can see him staying 1 more season then going back to Juventus next year. I just don't think the board will be willing to pay him the kind of salary he will be expecting. He's an absolutely phenomenal player when on form, unplayable, can see things that no other midfielder can but he's also very inconsistent.

I think Pogba will be looking to get 350,000 a week for his next contract, I think the board here would feel 250,000 a week based on current performances is about right. I don't see an agreement as it could destroy the dressing room. Perhaps Juventus will pay him the 350,000 next season.
I'm certain he'll have a big season for us this year though.
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Raiola also want a good pay-off
 
I haven't been here long but I see people wanting to limit the quality/depth or both in the squad every single day of the week. There were tons of posters on the VDB thread calling it an unnecessary signing. Now that we have VDB, a lot more seem open to selling Pogba. At a time where we're trying to progress and catch up to some of the other clubs (read the dippers and the ffp cheats), why would we want to weaken ourselves by getting one of our best players out?

We should be looking at adding quality in other areas. Even the ones saying they'd sell Pogba for Sancho, a move like that could lead to a burnt out Bruno and VDB who I would think probably needs some time to settle as well. Not saying we're sorted at rw but if we cant get Sancho, I'd rather get a backup for Greenwood than trade Pogba. Trading Pogba would mean trying to replace him in the next window and continuing to go through these never ending rebuilds.
 
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Forevergiggs1 said:
If we're paying DDG 350k per week I would think Pogba would have a very good case to take to the board
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I think we're paying more than that, and I think the board feel they made a huge mistake. De Gea demanded that contract at a time when we were a mess. If it was the current squad now and De Gea was in talks to renew, I think the board would be quite happy to let him leave and replace him with a keeper on less than 200,000 a week who is outperforming like Alisson at Liverpool is and Ederson at City is.
I think Bruno on 100,000 a week and Rashford on 200,000 a week would demand a pay hike if a player not outperforming like Pogba was to get 350,000 a week.
 
Champagne Football said:
I think we're paying more than that, and I think the board feel they made a huge mistake. De Gea demanded that contract at a time when we were a mess. If it was the current squad now and De Gea was in talks to renew, I think the board would be quite happy to let him leave and replace him with a keeper on less than 200,000 a week who is outperforming like Alisson at Liverpool is and Ederson at City is.
I think Bruno on 100,000 a week and Rashford on 200,000 a week would demand a pay hike if a player not outperforming like Pogba was to get 350,000 a week.
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It's a tricky situation with Pogba. If I remember correctly he's already on about 290k so the least he'll be expecting would be DDGs wages. If not then his fat Italian friend will be advising him not to sign a new contract, play out the year with us then hold the club to ransom when he enters his last year of his contract. Personally I don't think it's worth giving him 400k plus the millions it will cost with Raiola to be hsppy for someone who could be great but rarely is over the course of a season. Maybe now is the time to finally get our wage structure under control starting with Pogba.
 
Sparky Rhiwabon said:
The only issue I have with Pogba is that he usually only seems to play well when we are playing well as a team, so he makes a team playing well play even better. He rarely seems to play well when the team as a whole is playing badly, I.e. he rarely drags us to victory.
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Yeah he isnt a Gerrard who drags teams through shit. Fork the tactics just be roy of the rovers. Great if you are shit, a liability if you want to win the title.

Pogba is quality. You dont get into that Juve midfield if you arent. We lack in the areas around him.
 
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