Serie A 90's draft

Shit... I was positive one of those two would survive when I went to sleep with two picks to go. Damned! I really wanted Crespo :annoyed:

Mmmm... big decision to make now.
 
I have the wife screaming at me the boys are desperate to go to the beach and I don't want to keep you waiting.

I know I'll need this guy on either flank so feck it.

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  1. EAP - 1. M. van Basten 2. R. Donadoni 3. M. Tassotti
  2. Onenil - 1. R. Baggio 2. A. Costacurta 3. D. Baggio
  3. harms 1. L. Ronaldo 2. C. Ferrara 3. P. Montero
  4. Moby/Pat Mustard 1. G. Batistuta 2. F. Cannavaro 3. R. Mancini
  5. MJJ/Sjor 1. A. Del Piero 2. J. Veron 3. Aldair
  6. 2mufc0/Invictus 1. Z. Zidane 2. P. Vierchowod 3. Z. Boban
  7. Lord Sinister 1. P. Maldini 2. G. Signori 3. A. Winter
  8. Gio 1. F. Baresi 2. G. Weah 3. D. Deschamps
  9. Enigma/The Red Viper 1. L. Matthäus 2. G. Bergomi 3. G. Vialli
  10. idmanager 1. F. Rijkaard 2. E. Davids 3. H. Crespo
  11. antohan 1. R. Costa 2. J. Kohler 3. A. Benarrivo
  12. prath92/Crappy 1. P. Nedved 2. C. Vieri
  13. Tuppet 1. R. Gullit 2. A. Brehme
  14. Cal? 1. M. Desailly 2. F. Totti
  15. Oaencha 1. A. Nesta 2. J. Zanetti
  16. Raees 1. Cafu 2. L. Thuram
@prath92 @crappycraperson
 
  1. EAP - 1. M. van Basten 2. R. Donadoni 3. M. Tassotti
  2. Onenil - 1. R. Baggio 2. A. Costacurta 3. D. Baggio
  3. harms 1. L. Ronaldo 2. C. Ferrara 3. P. Montero
  4. Moby/Pat Mustard 1. G. Batistuta 2. F. Cannavaro 3. R. Mancini
  5. MJJ/Sjor 1. A. Del Piero 2. J. Veron 3. Aldair
  6. 2mufc0/Invictus 1. Z. Zidane 2. P. Vierchowod 3. Z. Boban
  7. Lord Sinister 1. P. Maldini 2. G. Signori 3. A. Winter
  8. Gio 1. F. Baresi 2. G. Weah 3. D. Deschamps
  9. Enigma/The Red Viper 1. L. Matthäus 2. G. Bergomi 3. G. Vialli
  10. idmanager 1. F. Rijkaard 2. E. Davids 3. H. Crespo
  11. antohan 1. R. Costa 2. J. Kohler 3. A. Benarrivo
  12. prath92/Crappy 1. P. Nedved 2. C. Vieri 3. D. Albertini
  13. Tuppet 1. R. Gullit 2. A. Brehme
  14. Cal? 1. M. Desailly 2. F. Totti
  15. Oaencha 1. A. Nesta 2. J. Zanetti
  16. Raees 1. Cafu 2. L. Thuram
@Tuppet
 
prath92 said:
  1. EAP - 1. M. van Basten 2. R. Donadoni 3. M. Tassotti
  2. Onenil - 1. R. Baggio 2. A. Costacurta 3. D. Baggio
  3. harms 1. L. Ronaldo 2. C. Ferrara 3. P. Montero
  4. Moby/Pat Mustard 1. G. Batistuta 2. F. Cannavaro 3. R. Mancini
  5. MJJ/Sjor 1. A. Del Piero 2. J. Veron 3. Aldair
  6. 2mufc0/Invictus 1. Z. Zidane 2. P. Vierchowod 3. Z. Boban
  7. Lord Sinister 1. P. Maldini 2. G. Signori 3. A. Winter
  8. Gio 1. F. Baresi 2. G. Weah 3. D. Deschamps
  9. Enigma/The Red Viper 1. L. Matthäus 2. G. Bergomi 3. G. Vialli
  10. idmanager 1. F. Rijkaard 2. E. Davids 3. H. Crespo
  11. antohan 1. R. Costa 2. J. Kohler 3. A. Benarrivo
  12. prath92/Crappy 1. P. Nedved 2. C. Vieri
  13. Tuppet 1. R. Gullit 2. A. Brehme 3. D. Albertini
  14. Cal? 1. M. Desailly 2. F. Totti
  15. Oaencha 1. A. Nesta 2. J. Zanetti
  16. Raees 1. Cafu 2. L. Thuram
@Tuppet
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errrm you picked the player for tuppet...:)
 
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  1. EAP - 1. M. van Basten 2. R. Donadoni 3. M. Tassotti
  2. Onenil - 1. R. Baggio 2. A. Costacurta 3. D. Baggio
  3. harms 1. L. Ronaldo 2. C. Ferrara 3. P. Montero
  4. Moby/Pat Mustard 1. G. Batistuta 2. F. Cannavaro 3. R. Mancini
  5. MJJ/Sjor 1. A. Del Piero 2. J. Veron 3. Aldair
  6. 2mufc0/Invictus 1. Z. Zidane 2. P. Vierchowod 3. Z. Boban
  7. Lord Sinister 1. P. Maldini 2. G. Signori 3. A. Winter
  8. Gio 1. F. Baresi 2. G. Weah 3. D. Deschamps
  9. Enigma/The Red Viper 1. L. Matthäus 2. G. Bergomi 3. G. Vialli
  10. idmanager 1. F. Rijkaard 2. E. Davids 3. H. Crespo
  11. antohan 1. R. Costa 2. J. Kohler 3. A. Benarrivo
  12. prath92/Crappy 1. P. Nedved 2. C. Vieri 3. D. Albertini
  13. Tuppet 1. R. Gullit 2. A. Brehme 3. L. Blanc
  14. Cal? 1. M. Desailly 2. F. Totti
  15. Oaencha 1. A. Nesta 2. J. Zanetti
  16. Raees 1. Cafu 2. L. Thuram
@Cal?
 
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  1. EAP - 1. M. van Basten 2. R. Donadoni 3. M. Tassotti
  2. Onenil - 1. R. Baggio 2. A. Costacurta 3. D. Baggio
  3. harms 1. L. Ronaldo 2. C. Ferrara 3. P. Montero
  4. Moby/Pat Mustard 1. G. Batistuta 2. F. Cannavaro 3. R. Mancini
  5. MJJ/Sjor 1. A. Del Piero 2. J. Veron 3. Aldair
  6. 2mufc0/Invictus 1. Z. Zidane 2. P. Vierchowod 3. Z. Boban
  7. Lord Sinister 1. P. Maldini 2. G. Signori 3. A. Winter
  8. Gio 1. F. Baresi 2. G. Weah 3. D. Deschamps
  9. Enigma/The Red Viper 1. L. Matthäus 2. G. Bergomi 3. G. Vialli
  10. idmanager 1. F. Rijkaard 2. E. Davids 3. H. Crespo
  11. antohan 1. R. Costa 2. J. Kohler 3. A. Benarrivo
  12. prath92/Crappy 1. P. Nedved 2. C. Vieri 3. D. Albertini
  13. Tuppet 1. R. Gullit 2. A. Brehme 3. L. Blanc
  14. Cal? 1. M. Desailly 2. F. Totti 3. J. Klinsmann
  15. Oaencha 1. A. Nesta 2. J. Zanetti
  16. Raees 1. Cafu 2. L. Thuram
@Oaencha
 
Gianfranco Zola

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  1. EAP - 1. M. van Basten 2. R. Donadoni 3. M. Tassotti
  2. Onenil - 1. R. Baggio 2. A. Costacurta 3. D. Baggio
  3. harms 1. L. Ronaldo 2. C. Ferrara 3. P. Montero
  4. Moby/Pat Mustard 1. G. Batistuta 2. F. Cannavaro 3. R. Mancini
  5. MJJ/Sjor 1. A. Del Piero 2. J. Veron 3. Aldair
  6. 2mufc0/Invictus 1. Z. Zidane 2. P. Vierchowod 3. Z. Boban
  7. Lord Sinister 1. P. Maldini 2. G. Signori 3. A. Winter
  8. Gio 1. F. Baresi 2. G. Weah 3. D. Deschamps
  9. Enigma/The Red Viper 1. L. Matthäus 2. G. Bergomi 3. G. Vialli
  10. idmanager 1. F. Rijkaard 2. E. Davids 3. H. Crespo
  11. antohan 1. R. Costa 2. J. Kohler 3. A. Benarrivo
  12. prath92/Crappy 1. P. Nedved 2. C. Vieri 3. D. Albertini
  13. Tuppet 1. R. Gullit 2. A. Brehme 3. L. Blanc
  14. Cal? 1. M. Desailly 2. F. Totti 3. J. Klinsmann
  15. Oaencha 1. A. Nesta 2. J. Zanetti 3. G. Zola
  16. Raees 1. Cafu 2. L. Thuram
@Raees
 
@Cal?

Just out of curiosity mate, why did you pick Klinsmann? He’s probably my favourite ever player but he only had two good seasons at Inter and the first was technically only half in the 90s.
 
I wanted to go for Zola ahead of Crespo but with the strikers left and with 4 out of 6 managers below me having a Number 10, went for Crespo hoping the last two wouldn't go for him.
Was never going to happen but wishful thinking :(

Its a shame he is picked this late. He should have long gone by round 2 or early round 3 keeping the context in mind.
 
Oaencha said:
@Cal?

Just out of curiosity mate, why did you pick Klinsmann? He’s probably my favourite ever player but he only had two good seasons at Inter and the first was technically only half in the 90s.
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Matthäus and Brehme were there just as long (short) as he was, and they were very much at the top of their game in the early 90s.
 
idmanager said:
I wanted to go for Zola ahead of Crespo but with the strikers left and with 4 out of 6 managers below me having a Number 10, went for Crespo hoping the last two wouldn't go for him.
Was never going to happen but wishful thinking :(

Its a shame he is picked this late. He should have long gone by round 2 or early round 3 keeping the context in mind.
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I’m suprised he wasn’t picked sooner too. Once all the shiny strikers went he was top of my list and I had my fingers crossed he would make it down to me.
 
Oaencha said:
@Cal?

Just out of curiosity mate, why did you pick Klinsmann? He’s probably my favourite ever player but he only had two good seasons at Inter and the first was technically only half in the 90s.
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who likes klinsmann ffs
 
Oaencha said:
@Cal?

Just out of curiosity mate, why did you pick Klinsmann? He’s probably my favourite ever player but he only had two good seasons at Inter and the first was technically only half in the 90s.
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89-90 doesn't count

There's quite a few players in similar situations. Objectively you would associate them with the 80s or 00s, but they do make the 40 game 90s cut. Will be tricky to assess them tbh.
 
This looks like fun but i don't understand how the matches will work?

I mean actually arranging the matches could be a bit tricky, especially if one of yer players is like president of Liberia n that.

What kind of simulator is used?
 
Cal? said:
Matthäus and Brehme were there just as long (short) as he was, and they were very much at the top of their game in the early 90s.
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I watched an insane amount of Klinsmann’s games when I was younger and I personally don’t think 89-92 were his peak years.

As the 89-90 season doesn’t count in this draft, Klinsmann will be assessed for just the 90-91 and 91-92 seasons. Neither him nor Inter were very good in 91-92.
 
  1. EAP - 1. M. van Basten 2. R. Donadoni 3. M. Tassotti
  2. Onenil - 1. R. Baggio 2. A. Costacurta 3. D. Baggio
  3. harms 1. L. Ronaldo 2. C. Ferrara 3. P. Montero
  4. Moby/Pat Mustard 1. G. Batistuta 2. F. Cannavaro 3. R. Mancini
  5. MJJ/Sjor 1. A. Del Piero 2. J. Veron 3. Aldair
  6. 2mufc0/Invictus 1. Z. Zidane 2. P. Vierchowod 3. Z. Boban
  7. Lord Sinister 1. P. Maldini 2. G. Signori 3. A. Winter
  8. Gio 1. F. Baresi 2. G. Weah 3. D. Deschamps
  9. Enigma/The Red Viper 1. L. Matthäus 2. G. Bergomi 3. G. Vialli
  10. idmanager 1. F. Rijkaard 2. E. Davids 3. H. Crespo
  11. antohan 1. R. Costa 2. J. Kohler 3. A. Benarrivo
  12. prath92/Crappy 1. P. Nedved 2. C. Vieri 3. D. Albertini
  13. Tuppet 1. R. Gullit 2. A. Brehme 3. L. Blanc
  14. Cal? 1. M. Desailly 2. F. Totti 3. J. Klinsmann
  15. Oaencha 1. A. Nesta 2. J. Zanetti 3. G. Zola
  16. Raees 1. Cafu 2. L. Thuram 3. D. Simeone 4. V. Jugovic
@Oaencha
 
sincher said:
This looks like fun but i don't understand how the matches will work?

I mean actually arranging the matches could be a bit tricky, especially if one of yer players is like president of Liberia n that.

What kind of simulator is used?
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We're like those kids playing D&D in the basement. The game is as good as our imagination
 
He will divide opinions but was lethal between 96-99.

Filippo Inzaghi

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  1. EAP - 1. M. van Basten 2. R. Donadoni 3. M. Tassotti
  2. Onenil - 1. R. Baggio 2. A. Costacurta 3. D. Baggio
  3. harms 1. L. Ronaldo 2. C. Ferrara 3. P. Montero
  4. Moby/Pat Mustard 1. G. Batistuta 2. F. Cannavaro 3. R. Mancini
  5. MJJ/Sjor 1. A. Del Piero 2. J. Veron 3. Aldair
  6. 2mufc0/Invictus 1. Z. Zidane 2. P. Vierchowod 3. Z. Boban
  7. Lord Sinister 1. P. Maldini 2. G. Signori 3. A. Winter
  8. Gio 1. F. Baresi 2. G. Weah 3. D. Deschamps
  9. Enigma/The Red Viper 1. L. Matthäus 2. G. Bergomi 3. G. Vialli
  10. idmanager 1. F. Rijkaard 2. E. Davids 3. H. Crespo
  11. antohan 1. R. Costa 2. J. Kohler 3. A. Benarrivo
  12. prath92/Crappy 1. P. Nedved 2. C. Vieri 3. D. Albertini
  13. Tuppet 1. R. Gullit 2. A. Brehme 3. L. Blanc
  14. Cal? 1. M. Desailly 2. F. Totti 3. J. Klinsmann
  15. Oaencha 1. A. Nesta 2. J. Zanetti 3. G. Zola 4. F. Inzaghi
  16. Raees 1. Cafu 2. L. Thuram 3. D. Simeone 4. V. Jugovic
@Cal?
 
Oaencha said:
I watched an insane amount of Klinsmann’s games when I was younger and I personally don’t think 89-92 were his peak years.

As the 89-90 season doesn’t count in this draft, Klinsmann will be assessed for just the 90-91 and 91-92 seasons. Neither him nor Inter were very good in 91-92.
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Both the German and Dutch trio peaked in the late 80s. I'd argue they all had strong 90-91 seasons in line with that peak, but they fizzled out (or got perma-crocked) thereafter.

How people will factor that in is anyone's guess. I'll definitely water them down a bit, but it shouldn't be a case of straight dismissal or "making up for others voting based on actual peak".
 
harms said:
We're like those kids playing D&D in the basement. The game is as good as our imagination
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That would make a pretty shit original Netflix series.

Instead of Stranger Things you could call it Strange Things, starring Pillow as the gamemaster, Dick as the one always arguing the game is badly designed, Gio as the serial winner with a walkie talkie, Theon as the kid outside with the other walkie-talkie, and anto as the perv having a quiet wank in the corner.

We even have a Lord Sinister that grows stronger as everyone makes stupid decisions.
 
antohan said:
Both the German and Dutch trio peaked in the late 80s. I'd argue they all had strong 90-91 seasons in line with that peak, but they fizzled out (or got perma-crocked) thereafter.

How people will factor that in is anyone's guess. I'll definitely water them down a bit, but it shouldn't be a case of straight dismissal or "making up for others voting based on actual peak".
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I'd argue that Matthaus 90/91 version is by far the peak version of him at club level. He won the FIFA WPOY in 1991 based on that not the WC the year before.

Sure he didn't have a long career during the 90's there, but was definitely the outstanding player in the early 90's as well and the best Inter player at the time.

Think he missed only couple of games during those two seasons and had as many games as the likes as Ronaldo and Van Basten for example who were riddled with injuries.

Two years in a row at that time and 66 games in two years is pretty strong indication of his actual level in the early 90's.

You do have a point with some players having their best up to the 90/91 season, but I don't believe Matthaus was one of them as he definitely peaked in 90/91 at club level.
 
antohan said:
Both the German and Dutch trio peaked in the late 80s. I'd argue they all had strong 90-91 seasons in line with that peak, but they fizzled out (or got perma-crocked) thereafter.

How people will factor that in is anyone's guess. I'll definitely water them down a bit, but it shouldn't be a case of straight dismissal or "making up for others voting based on actual peak".
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Rijkaard won the best player of the season for 1991-92. Van Basten was more than decent too. Gullit took the biggest hit in the 90s
 
antohan said:
That would make a pretty shit original Netflix series.

Instead of Stranger Things you could call it Strange Things, starring Pillow as the gamemaster, Dick as the one always arguing the game is badly designed, Gio as the serial winner with a walkie talkie, Theon as the kid outside with the other walkie-talkie, and anto as the perv having a quiet wank in the corner.

We even have a Lord Sinister that grows stronger as everyone makes stupid decisions.
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I would watch it. I think we should call it ‘Peaky Drafters’ though.
 
Raees said:
@antohan thanks but it's tough getting scraps in more attacking positions
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Have the same issue but without being able to get such complementary pairs (not complaining, waiting 30 picks is a bummer).

The big issue as usual is the shiny attackers go so at the bottom it's defence first. Issue is though that completing a great attacking pair takes two picks and you move on by R3, while defensive setups with the credibility to stop them can easily take you into R5-6 and this pool degrades very quickly, at least in voting pull.
 
  1. EAP - 1. M. van Basten 2. R. Donadoni 3. M. Tassotti
  2. Onenil - 1. R. Baggio 2. A. Costacurta 3. D. Baggio
  3. harms 1. L. Ronaldo 2. C. Ferrara 3. P. Montero
  4. Moby/Pat Mustard 1. G. Batistuta 2. F. Cannavaro 3. R. Mancini
  5. MJJ/Sjor 1. A. Del Piero 2. J. Veron 3. Aldair
  6. 2mufc0/Invictus 1. Z. Zidane 2. P. Vierchowod 3. Z. Boban
  7. Lord Sinister 1. P. Maldini 2. G. Signori 3. A. Winter
  8. Gio 1. F. Baresi 2. G. Weah 3. D. Deschamps
  9. Enigma/The Red Viper 1. L. Matthäus 2. G. Bergomi 3. G. Vialli
  10. idmanager 1. F. Rijkaard 2. E. Davids 3. H. Crespo
  11. antohan 1. R. Costa 2. J. Kohler 3. A. Benarrivo
  12. prath92/Crappy 1. P. Nedved 2. C. Vieri 3. D. Albertini
  13. Tuppet 1. R. Gullit 2. A. Brehme 3. L. Blanc
  14. Cal? 1. M. Desailly 2. F. Totti 3. J. Klinsmann 4. C. Panucci
  15. Oaencha 1. A. Nesta 2. J. Zanetti 3. G. Zola 4. F. Inzaghi
  16. Raees 1. Cafu 2. L. Thuram 3. D. Simeone 4. V. Jugovic
@Tuppet
 
Enigma_87 said:
I'd argue that Matthaus 90/91 version is by far the peak version of him at club level. He won the FIFA WPOY in 1991 based on that not the WC the year before.

Sure he didn't have a long career during the 90's there, but was definitely the outstanding player in the early 90's as well and the best Inter player at the time.

Think he missed only couple of games during those two seasons and had as many games as the likes as Ronaldo and Van Basten for example who were riddled with injuries.

Two years in a row at that time and 66 games in two years is pretty strong indication of his actual level in the early 90's.

You do have a point with some players having their best up to the 90/91 season, but I don't believe Matthaus was one of them as he definitely peaked in 90/91 at club level.
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Rijkaard won the best player of the season for 1991-92. Van Basten was more than decent too. Gullit took the biggest hit in the 90s
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Was making a general point. Let's keep this for gamethreads.
 
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