Serie A 90's draft

2mufc0 said:
  1. EAP - 1. M. van Basten
  2. Onenil - 1. R. Baggio
  3. harms 1. L. Ronaldo
  4. Moby/Pat Mustard 1. G. Batistuta
  5. MJJ/Sjor 1. A. Del Piero 2.Veron
  6. 2mufc0/Invictus 1. Z. Zidane 2. P. Vierchowod
  7. Lord Sinister 1. P. Maldini 2. G. Signori
  8. Gio 1. F. Baresi 2. G. Weah
  9. Enigma/The Red Viper 1. L. Matthäus 2. G. Bergomi
  10. idmanager 1. F. Rijkaard 2. E. Davids
  11. antohan 1. R. Costa 2. J. Kohler
  12. prath92/Crappy 1. P. Nedved 2. C. Vieri
  13. Tuppet 1. R. Gullit 2. A. Brehme
  14. Cal? 1. M. Desailly 2. F. Totti
  15. Oaencha 1. A. Nesta 2. J. Zanetti
  16. Raees 1. Cafu 2. L. Thuram
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@Moby @Pat_Mustard
 
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  1. EAP - 1. M. van Basten
  2. Onenil - 1. R. Baggio
  3. harms 1. L. Ronaldo
  4. Moby/Pat Mustard 1. G. Batistuta 2. F. Cannavaro
  5. MJJ/Sjor 1. A. Del Piero 2.Veron
  6. 2mufc0/Invictus 1. Z. Zidane 2. P. Vierchowod
  7. Lord Sinister 1. P. Maldini 2. G. Signori
  8. Gio 1. F. Baresi 2. G. Weah
  9. Enigma/The Red Viper 1. L. Matthäus 2. G. Bergomi
  10. idmanager 1. F. Rijkaard 2. E. Davids
  11. antohan 1. R. Costa 2. J. Kohler
  12. prath92/Crappy 1. P. Nedved 2. C. Vieri
  13. Tuppet 1. R. Gullit 2. A. Brehme
  14. Cal? 1. M. Desailly 2. F. Totti
  15. Oaencha 1. A. Nesta 2. J. Zanetti
  16. Raees 1. Cafu 2. L. Thuram
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  1. EAP - 1. M. van Basten
  2. Onenil - 1. R. Baggio
  3. harms 1. L. Ronaldo 2. C. Ferrara
  4. Moby/Pat Mustard 1. G. Batistuta 2. F. Cannavaro
  5. MJJ/Sjor 1. A. Del Piero 2. J. Veron
  6. 2mufc0/Invictus 1. Z. Zidane 2. P. Vierchowod
  7. Lord Sinister 1. P. Maldini 2. G. Signori
  8. Gio 1. F. Baresi 2. G. Weah
  9. Enigma/The Red Viper 1. L. Matthäus 2. G. Bergomi
  10. idmanager 1. F. Rijkaard 2. E. Davids
  11. antohan 1. R. Costa 2. J. Kohler
  12. prath92/Crappy 1. P. Nedved 2. C. Vieri
  13. Tuppet 1. R. Gullit 2. A. Brehme
  14. Cal? 1. M. Desailly 2. F. Totti
  15. Oaencha 1. A. Nesta 2. J. Zanetti
  16. Raees 1. Cafu 2. L. Thuram
Ciro Ferrara

@oneniltothearsenal
 
Damn it. Wanted Cannavarro and Seba.. it is going to be slim pickings for round 3 down our end.
 
TheReligion said:
Seeing Vierchowod made think of this

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Not fair on Vierchowod was around 40 that time.

And to be fair Fenemeno did similar things to Maldini who is rated the best defender with Baresi in that era.
 
  1. EAP - 1. M. van Basten
  2. Onenil - 1. R. Baggio 2. A. Costacurta
  3. harms 1. L. Ronaldo 2. C. Ferrara
  4. Moby/Pat Mustard 1. G. Batistuta 2. F. Cannavaro
  5. MJJ/Sjor 1. A. Del Piero 2. J. Veron
  6. 2mufc0/Invictus 1. Z. Zidane 2. P. Vierchowod
  7. Lord Sinister 1. P. Maldini 2. G. Signori
  8. Gio 1. F. Baresi 2. G. Weah
  9. Enigma/The Red Viper 1. L. Matthäus 2. G. Bergomi
  10. idmanager 1. F. Rijkaard 2. E. Davids
  11. antohan 1. R. Costa 2. J. Kohler
  12. prath92/Crappy 1. P. Nedved 2. C. Vieri
  13. Tuppet 1. R. Gullit 2. A. Brehme
  14. Cal? 1. M. Desailly 2. F. Totti
  15. Oaencha 1. A. Nesta 2. J. Zanetti
  16. Raees 1. Cafu 2. L. Thuram
@Edgar Allan Pillow
 
2mufc0 said:
Not fair on Vierchowod was around 40 that time.

And to be fair Fenemeno did similar things to Maldini who is rated the best defender with Baresi in that era.
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It's usually pointed out as a good job on Ronaldo, no need to get defensive.

Should have been off. But yeah, a younger Pietro wouldn't have needed as many fouls.
 
antohan said:
It's usually pointed out as a good job on Ronaldo, no need to get defensive.

Should have been off. But yeah, a younger Pietro wouldn't have needed as many fouls.
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Not being defensive just nipping in the bud predictable future arguments as a result of the post.
 
Raees said:
Damn it. Wanted Cannavarro and Seba.. it is going to be slim pickings for round 3 down our end.
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Just looking at the last few picks, it seems not to be the best time to be bottom. Most at least level and more often improve on whatever we have done at the bottom... and the advantage resumes in R3.

Also notice much better drafting. It used to be the case 5-6 shot themselves in the foot terminally in R1-3. No signs of that.
 
antohan said:
Just looking at the last few picks, it seems not to be the best time to be bottom. Most at least level and more often improve on whatever we have done at the bottom... and the advantage resumes in R3.

Also notice much better drafting. It used to be the case 5-6 shot themselves in the foot terminally in R1-3. No signs of that.
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Agreed, lots of champs and experienced drafters in this draft combined with a rather limited pool. This is going to be tough.
 
antohan said:
It's usually pointed out as a good job on Ronaldo, no need to get defensive.

Should have been off. But yeah, a younger Pietro wouldn't have needed as many fouls.
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Should've been off. Ronaldo also scored in that game though, even if it wasn't Vierchowod's fault
 
antohan said:
Just looking at the last few picks, it seems not to be the best time to be bottom. Most at least level and more often improve on whatever we have done at the bottom... and the advantage resumes in R3.

Also notice much better drafting. It used to be the case 5-6 shot themselves in the foot terminally in R1-3. No signs of that.
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I’m usually at the bottom of drafts and ultimately it hasn’t made much difference in terms of quality as the draft has gone on. I agree though... the difference in quality between round 2 and 3 is going to be pretty big. Round 8 onwards everyone will be picking anyone they can find.
 
Oaencha said:
I’m usually at the bottom of drafts and ultimately it hasn’t made much difference in terms of quality as the draft has gone on. I agree though... the difference in quality between round 2 and 3 is going to be pretty big. Round 8 onwards everyone will be picking anyone they can find.
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I usually prefer 13th or thereabouts (10-13) but this pool looks primed for the earlier picking giving you first dibs at each of those stages.

Not that I envy being 1st or 2nd, the long wait between picks could decimate certain positions, but 5th-8th is probably a better place to be in this one.
 
antohan said:
Wow. In what planet do you shift Rui Costa to the wing?

With that pair of fullbacks it makes absolutely no sense.

------------Del Piero-----MvB
------------------Rui Costa---------
------------Rijkaard----Desailly-------------
Brehme----CB--- Baresi---CB------Cafu
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I was trying to fit them all including Zidane. So you need to add him as well at the expense of one cb.

Obviously not the best use of Rui Costa as an inside right but too many cooks :)
 
idmanager said:
When you can't find a perfect fit, always put them in a diamond.

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Is what I would have gone with as well.

Possibly swap Rui Costa and Zidane though. Rui Costa with his skillset and work-rate was more equipped to play in a more deeper role than Zidane. Not to mention, Zidane also had more goal-threat.
 
The Red Viper said:
Possibly swap Rui Costa and Zidane though. Rui Costa with his skillset and work-rate was more equipped to play in a more deeper role than Zidane. Not to mention, Zidane also had more goal-threat.
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That was a lineup made with the redcafe drafters and voters in mind who am sure would have found Del Piero and Zidane wanting to operate in their favourite slightly overlapping spaces on the left as troublesome :lol:
 
The Red Viper said:
Is what I would have gone with as well.

Possibly swap Rui Costa and Zidane though. Rui Costa with his skillset and work-rate was more equipped to play in a more deeper role than Zidane. Not to mention, Zidane also had more goal-threat.
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idmanager said:
That was a lineup made with the redcafe drafters and voters in mind who am sure would have found Del Piero and Zidane wanting to operate in their favourite slightly overlapping spaces on the left as troublesome :lol:
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Zidane is simply surplus to requirements in that team.
 
  1. EAP - 1. M. van Basten 2. R. Donadoni 3. M. Tassotti
  2. Onenil - 1. R. Baggio 2. A. Costacurta
  3. harms 1. L. Ronaldo 2. C. Ferrara
  4. Moby/Pat Mustard 1. G. Batistuta 2. F. Cannavaro
  5. MJJ/Sjor 1. A. Del Piero 2. J. Veron
  6. 2mufc0/Invictus 1. Z. Zidane 2. P. Vierchowod
  7. Lord Sinister 1. P. Maldini 2. G. Signori
  8. Gio 1. F. Baresi 2. G. Weah
  9. Enigma/The Red Viper 1. L. Matthäus 2. G. Bergomi
  10. idmanager 1. F. Rijkaard 2. E. Davids
  11. antohan 1. R. Costa 2. J. Kohler
  12. prath92/Crappy 1. P. Nedved 2. C. Vieri
  13. Tuppet 1. R. Gullit 2. A. Brehme
  14. Cal? 1. M. Desailly 2. F. Totti
  15. Oaencha 1. A. Nesta 2. J. Zanetti
  16. Raees 1. Cafu 2. L. Thuram
 
antohan said:
Zidane is simply surplus to requirements in that team.
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You misspelled Rui Costa.

If you are going with that formation under no circumstance whatsoever does Zidane not start as the #10 but good to see you back at your snake oil salesmanship best.
 
paolo montero

On mobile, so can anyone update the list and tag the next manager, please?
 
  1. EAP - 1. M. van Basten 2. R. Donadoni 3. M. Tassotti
  2. Onenil - 1. R. Baggio 2. A. Costacurta 3. D. Baggio
  3. harms 1. L. Ronaldo 2. C. Ferrara 3. P. Montero
  4. Moby/Pat Mustard 1. G. Batistuta 2. F. Cannavaro
  5. MJJ/Sjor 1. A. Del Piero 2. J. Veron
  6. 2mufc0/Invictus 1. Z. Zidane 2. P. Vierchowod
  7. Lord Sinister 1. P. Maldini 2. G. Signori
  8. Gio 1. F. Baresi 2. G. Weah
  9. Enigma/The Red Viper 1. L. Matthäus 2. G. Bergomi
  10. idmanager 1. F. Rijkaard 2. E. Davids
  11. antohan 1. R. Costa 2. J. Kohler
  12. prath92/Crappy 1. P. Nedved 2. C. Vieri
  13. Tuppet 1. R. Gullit 2. A. Brehme
  14. Cal? 1. M. Desailly 2. F. Totti
  15. Oaencha 1. A. Nesta 2. J. Zanetti
  16. Raees 1. Cafu 2. L. Thuram
 
Moby said:
You misspelled Rui Costa.

If you are going with that formation under no circumstance whatsoever does Zidane not start as the #10 but good to see you back at your snake oil salesmanship best.
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Firstly, independently of him being my player, as far as 90s Serie A is concerned, Rui Costa was IMO a better and more consistently influential performer. He just didn't play for Juve or France. Zidane is the better and more successful player over the course of his career, obviously.

Second, in that side with Del Piero and Brehme he is a better fit, not just because his favoured left/IL channels are well taken care of, but particularly without knowing who the other midfielders are.

Zidane had a setup that allowed him complete freedom in a dominant team, while Rui Costa had to adapt between being a free #10 or dropping very deep to orchestrate the transition.

In Juve's lopsided setup without a particularly expansive leftback I'd take Zidane though. Different #10s, horses for courses and all that, in what is a comparison of fine margins (but hugely relevant given the importance of the role to the team and it's functioning).
 
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