Serie A 90's draft

@2mufc0 I think last time I worked out the average pick times using the number of picks but treated double picks as a single pick. I'd just do the same here. 11 picks are dividd by 11, 14 picks divided by 14
 
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  • EAP - 1. M. van Basten 2. R. Donadoni 3. M. Tassotti 4. D. Stankovic 5. G. Pessotto 6. T. Brolin 7. M. Ambrosini 8. G. Pancaro 9. G. Signorini 10. Alberigo Evani (30) 11. Giovanni Galli (30)

  • Onenil - 1. R. Baggio 2. A. Costacurta 3. D. Baggio 4. L. Minotti 5. Careca 6. J. Chamot 7. R. Mussi 8. F. Asprilla 9. G. Marocchi 10. Taglialatela (30) 11. S. Cois (30)
  • harms 1. Ronaldo 2. C. Ferrara 3. P. Montero 4. Y. Djorkaeff 5. C. Seedorf 6. A. Carboni 7. D. Fuser 8. W. Jonk 9. C. Taffarel 10. D. Massaro (30) 11. G. Grün (2)
  • Moby/Pat Mustard 1. G. Batistuta 2. F. Cannavaro 3. R. Mancini 4. M. Almeyda 5. E. Chiesa 6. Júlio César 7. D. Platt 8. L. Marchegiani 9. A. Di Chiara 10. A. Birindelli (0) 11. L. Fusi (25)
  • MJJ/Sjor 1. A. Del Piero 2. J. Veron 3. Aldair 4. A. Conte 5. S. Katanec 6. L. Di Biagio 7. T. Helveg 8. F. Toldo 9. D. Fonseca 10. A. Carlos(750) 11. J. Heinrich(750)
  • 2mufc0/Invictus 1. Z. Zidane 2. P. Vierchowod 3. Z. Boban 4. O. Bierhoff 5. J. Angloma 6. R. Jarni 7. F. Ravanelli 8. I. Tudor 9. C. Karembeu 10. F. De Napoli (87)
  • Lord Sinister 1. P. Maldini 2. G. Signori 3. A. Winter 4. V. Montella 5. M. Torricelli 6. Leonardo 7. M. Carrera 8. R. Di Matteo 9. M. Ielpo 10. S. Conceição(29)
  • Gio/Theon 1. F. Baresi 2. G. Weah 3. D. Deschamps 4. P. Sousa 5. R. Sosa 6. G. Giannini 7. L. De Agostini 8. W. Zenga 9. Zé Maria 10. J. Thern (2)
  • Enigma/The Red Viper 1. L. Matthäus 2. G. Bergomi 3. G. Vialli 4. R. Ferri 5. Dunga 6. Branco 7. A. Balbo 8. A. Lombardo 9. S. Rossi 10. M. Mannini (25)
  • idmanager 1. F. Rijkaard 2. E. Davids 3. H. Crespo 4. A. Di Livio 5. R. Ayala 6. M. Salas 7. G. Favalli 8. A. Recoba 9. A. Ortega 10. F. Collovati (30)
  • antohan 1. M. Rui Costa 2. J. Kohler 3. A. Benarrivo 4. S. Mihajlovic 5. R. Sensini 6. C. Caniggia 7. Alemão 8. A. Peruzzi 9. M. Crippa 10. K. Andersson (15)
  • prath92/Crappy 1. P. Nedved 2. C. Vieri 3. D. Albertini 4. D. Savicevic 5. M. Iuliano 6. P. Ince 7. A. Fortunato 8. P. Negro 9. L.Bucci 10. S. Schwarz (30)
  • Tuppet 1. R. Gullit 2. A. Brehme 3. L. Blanc 4. T. Hassler 5. R. Voller 6. N. Berti 7. D. Petrescu 8. E. Scifo 9. L. Apolloni 10. M. Konsel (171)
  • Cal? 1. M. Desailly 2. F. Totti 3. J. Klinsmann 4. C. Panucci 5. G Zambrotta 6. A Pirlo 7. G Lentini 8. G. Gattuso 9. F Galli 10. P Gascoigne (32)
  • Oaencha 1. A. Nesta 2. J. Zanetti 3. G. Zola 4. F. Inzaghi 5. V. Candela 6. A. Tacchinardi 7. G. Pagliuca 8. H. Nakata 9. I. Zamorano 10. A. Boghossian (50)
  • Raees 1. Cafu 2. L. Thuram 3. D. Simeone 4. V. Jugovic 5. F. Couto 6. A. Möller 7. G. Buffon 8. E. Francescoli 9. M. Amoroso 10. A. Boksic (71)
@2mufc0 @Invictus

sorry for the delay today....
 
  • EAP - 1. M. van Basten 2. R. Donadoni 3. M. Tassotti 4. D. Stankovic 5. G. Pessotto 6. T. Brolin 7. M. Ambrosini 8. G. Pancaro 9. G. Signorini 10. Alberigo Evani (30) 11. Giovanni Galli (30)

  • Onenil - 1. R. Baggio 2. A. Costacurta 3. D. Baggio 4. L. Minotti 5. Careca 6. J. Chamot 7. R. Mussi 8. F. Asprilla 9. G. Marocchi 10. Taglialatela (30) 11. S. Cois (30)
  • harms 1. Ronaldo 2. C. Ferrara 3. P. Montero 4. Y. Djorkaeff 5. C. Seedorf 6. A. Carboni 7. D. Fuser 8. W. Jonk 9. C. Taffarel 10. D. Massaro (30) 11. G. Grün (2)
  • Moby/Pat Mustard 1. G. Batistuta 2. F. Cannavaro 3. R. Mancini 4. M. Almeyda 5. E. Chiesa 6. Júlio César 7. D. Platt 8. L. Marchegiani 9. A. Di Chiara 10. A. Birindelli (0) 11. L. Fusi (25)
  • MJJ/Sjor 1. A. Del Piero 2. J. Veron 3. Aldair 4. A. Conte 5. S. Katanec 6. L. Di Biagio 7. T. Helveg 8. F. Toldo 9. D. Fonseca 10. A. Carlos(750) 11. J. Heinrich(750)
  • 2mufc0/Invictus 1. Z. Zidane 2. P. Vierchowod 3. Z. Boban 4. O. Bierhoff 5. J. Angloma 6. R. Jarni 7. F. Ravanelli 8. I. Tudor 9. C. Karembeu 10. F. De Napoli (87) 11. S. Tacconi (2)
  • Lord Sinister 1. P. Maldini 2. G. Signori 3. A. Winter 4. V. Montella 5. M. Torricelli 6. Leonardo 7. M. Carrera 8. R. Di Matteo 9. M. Ielpo 10. S. Conceição(29)
  • Gio/Theon 1. F. Baresi 2. G. Weah 3. D. Deschamps 4. P. Sousa 5. R. Sosa 6. G. Giannini 7. L. De Agostini 8. W. Zenga 9. Zé Maria 10. J. Thern (2)
  • Enigma/The Red Viper 1. L. Matthäus 2. G. Bergomi 3. G. Vialli 4. R. Ferri 5. Dunga 6. Branco 7. A. Balbo 8. A. Lombardo 9. S. Rossi 10. M. Mannini (25)
  • idmanager 1. F. Rijkaard 2. E. Davids 3. H. Crespo 4. A. Di Livio 5. R. Ayala 6. M. Salas 7. G. Favalli 8. A. Recoba 9. A. Ortega 10. F. Collovati (30)
  • antohan 1. M. Rui Costa 2. J. Kohler 3. A. Benarrivo 4. S. Mihajlovic 5. R. Sensini 6. C. Caniggia 7. Alemão 8. A. Peruzzi 9. M. Crippa 10. K. Andersson (15)
  • prath92/Crappy 1. P. Nedved 2. C. Vieri 3. D. Albertini 4. D. Savicevic 5. M. Iuliano 6. P. Ince 7. A. Fortunato 8. P. Negro 9. L.Bucci 10. S. Schwarz (30)
  • Tuppet 1. R. Gullit 2. A. Brehme 3. L. Blanc 4. T. Hassler 5. R. Voller 6. N. Berti 7. D. Petrescu 8. E. Scifo 9. L. Apolloni 10. M. Konsel (171)
  • Cal? 1. M. Desailly 2. F. Totti 3. J. Klinsmann 4. C. Panucci 5. G Zambrotta 6. A Pirlo 7. G Lentini 8. G. Gattuso 9. F Galli 10. P Gascoigne (32)
  • Oaencha 1. A. Nesta 2. J. Zanetti 3. G. Zola 4. F. Inzaghi 5. V. Candela 6. A. Tacchinardi 7. G. Pagliuca 8. H. Nakata 9. I. Zamorano 10. A. Boghossian (50)
  • Raees 1. Cafu 2. L. Thuram 3. D. Simeone 4. V. Jugovic 5. F. Couto 6. A. Möller 7. G. Buffon 8. E. Francescoli 9. M. Amoroso 10. A. Boksic (71)
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Physiocrat said:
@2mufc0 I think last time I worked out the average pick times using the number of picks but treated double picks as a single pick. I'd just do the same here. 11 picks are dividd by 11, 14 picks divided by 14
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Cheers, that sounds fair.
 
I'll send my 12th pick to onenil and EAP in case I won't be around.
 
2mufc0 said:
Cheers, that sounds fair.
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Stop at R12. Anything else (other than continuing with everyone doing 14) isn't.

There's a cadence to having 16 managers that goes out of the window with this weird innovation of not finishing the draft as planned.
 
I don't understand what's happening. Those who want to stop drafting at 12 can do so and those who want to continue till 14 can.. right?
 
crappycraperson said:
I don't understand what's happening. Those who want to stop drafting at 12 can do so and those who want to continue till 14 can.. right?
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Yes. For some reason some insist on clocking those who remain who will do one of two things:

1) Pick very quickly if their known target is not picked
2) Take forever if it gets picked at R14 which is a bit unfair on both them and the poor bugger sitting around waiting as it could be posted any time and make them inadvertently delay for no fault of their own
 
@Šjor Bepo I spent some time this morning talking myself into picking him. What a waste of time :annoyed:

The upside is, that process entails researching whether my memories are right so read up quite a few match reports and interviews. More than I usually would, but that Viola 98-99 season was something else.
 
antohan said:
Stop at R12. Anything else (other than continuing with everyone doing 14) isn't.

There's a cadence to having 16 managers that goes out of the window with this weird innovation of not finishing the draft as planned.
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You could also say that about stopping at R12. If some drafters want to stop that’s fine but those who want to continue should have the option to.
 
Oaencha said:
You could also say that about stopping at R12. If some drafters want to stop that’s fine but those who want to continue should have the option to.
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harms said:
He is talking about that? :confused:
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I think the confusion is I meant stop taking picking times for all in R12, whether they continue or not. You can't go half-cocked introducing a tie-breaker rule in R9 (which I supported), then considering just having 12 rounds (which I didn't but not fussed if others want to stop) and then making some weird merge of the two things just because you feel like it.

It's simple, you want to record pick times until R14 fine, make everyone pick 14 players. People can stop at 12 because they have no clue who to pick and would take forever? Fine, but stop recording pick times then. Simples.
 
Just a question. Sorry, if it's already answered, Cal, for example, can put Pirlo at DLP even if he didn't play there in the 90's?

You will probably deal with it in the match discussion?

Btw. one great draft. No clear favourite from what I see.
 
Jim Beam said:
Just a question. Sorry, if it's already answered, Cal, for example, can put Pirlo at DLP even if he didn't play there in the 90's?

You will probably deal with it in the match discussion?

Btw. one great draft. No clear favourite from what I see.
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He can in theory but it wouldn’t be a wise idea as he was an attacking midfielder and not particularly special in the 90s. The players are being judged on their 90s form and position and it would hinder his team to play him as a DLP.
 
Jim Beam said:
Just a question. Sorry, if it's already answered, Cal, for example, can put Pirlo at DLP even if he didn't play there in the 90's?

You will probably deal with it in the match discussion?

Btw. one great draft. No clear favourite from what I see.
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This. That's a very clear cut case whereby the player never played anywhere near that role. There may be other cases which are a lot less controversial but people will make sure they find them so.
 
antohan said:
I think the confusion is I meant stop taking picking times for all in R12, whether they continue or not. You can't go half-cocked introducing a tie-breaker rule in R9 (which I supported), then considering just having 12 rounds (which I didn't but not fussed if others want to stop) and then making some weird merge of the two things just because you feel like it.

It's simple, you want to record pick times until R14 fine, make everyone pick 14 players. People can stop at 12 because they have no clue who to pick and would take forever? Fine, but stop recording pick times then. Simples.
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Ah I see. Well I’m not going to be a pain about it. I would like 14 picks but will go with the majority vote.
 
Oaencha said:
Ah I see. Well I’m not going to be a pain about it. I would like 14 picks but will go with the majority vote.
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You can have 14, that's settled. What people keep bringing up is ways to keep recording picking times even as managers drop like flies. You can't have rules that operate differently for different managers so that has to get wrapped up in R12 whether people to choose to continue or not, is my point.
 
antohan said:
You can have 14, that's settled. What people keep bringing up is ways to keep recording picking times even as managers drop like flies. You can't have rules that operate differently for different managers so that has to get wrapped up in R12 whether people to choose to continue or not, is my point.
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That makes sense. In that case then yes, the times should be dropped in the round the first drafter wants to finish.
 
antohan said:
@Šjor Bepo I spent some time this morning talking myself into picking him. What a waste of time :annoyed:

The upside is, that process entails researching whether my memories are right so read up quite a few match reports and interviews. More than I usually would, but that Viola 98-99 season was something else.
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i dont really like the guy but was a no brainer from our position as the remaining pool for that type of player was pretty wank, at least for my knowledge.
 
Šjor Bepo said:
i dont really like the guy but was a no brainer from our position as the remaining pool for that type of player was pretty wank, at least for my knowledge.
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It is absolutely wank. I was just looking at him as one of the back 5 variants (with/without libero). More quality on the other flank so I guess it would be Benarrivo switching to the left.
 
antohan said:
It is absolutely wank. I was just looking at him as one of the back 5 variants (with/without libero). More quality on the other flank so I guess it would be Benarrivo switching to the left.
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when we considered Benarrivo we had a debate about his natural position, i thought Benarrivo best position was on the left?
 
Šjor Bepo said:
when we considered Benarrivo we had a debate about his natural position, i thought Benarrivo best position was on the left?
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As per usual with the great fullbacks that can play either side: he is right footed and very comfortable with both. They end up playing more at leftback simply because it's easier to find rightbacks, but he was comfortable either side really. More likely to cut in and shoot from the left, obviously, but I would hope I'm not relying on him for goals and Mihajlovic offers far more in that regard.
 
In the 1990s it's no surprise that Baresi's Milan hold the meanest defensive records the league saw during the decade. But this man was the leader behind the next best - the Torino back four of 1991/92 that let in a mere 20 goals all year. Not that he was just a one-season wonder, the campaign before having the third highest average rating - behind that man Baresi again and his other defensive partner here Zenga. Almost 15 years of service for Il Toro make him a club legend, and he had a tidy spell with Zoff's Lazio too.

ROBERTO CRAVERO

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Enigma: Paulo Sergio
idmanager: Taribo West
 
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