Nothing remotely concrete on him being named captain.
I really think there is something in this. We'll see.
I really think there is something in this. We'll see.
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Is that you Yoda?
This one would be the mother of all possible transfers.
Even if he is named captain, doesnt matter. More important is if he gets his 10m. Once they offer him that, it is over, captain or not.
This prick is playing us. I suspected it from day one but foolishly let my inner muppet get the better of me.
Let's just sign Otamendi so I can get back to hating him.
Let's just sign Otamendi so I can get back to hating him.
Named as captain doesn't mean anything new. He was "second captain" while Casillas was there, he was team captain in the games Casillas didn't play under Mourinho and Ancelotti. Madrid use "longest serving" as the criteria. Marcelo was "third captain" last year for example.
Yeah, the captain election is by default so it doesn't have much meaning.
But seeing how Perez is under fire by media and fans after these days with Casillas I think madrid will try to keep Ramos and most probably forget about De Gea.
But seeing how Perez is under fire by media and fans after these days with Casillas I think madrid will try to keep Ramos and most probably forget about De Gea.
Well hes naturally the heir to Casillas as captain so its not surprising in that sense but
Fully aware he was vice captain this season however if he is indeed leaving why name him full time captain? They could've easily just named a captain for each match on the pre-season tour. While I would agree that it could mean nothing and that a transfer is still on honestly I would rather not drag on the saga for longer and theres a good option in Otamendi for far less money that what RM want for Ramos.
DDG and Ramos going on tour gives me the impression that at least for now negotiations have broken down between the two clubs atm which is fine we shouldnt fold imo and i'd be perfectly fine if Dave left next year for free, it would mean that the team is stable for the rest of the season as replacing a top player is difficult and we would have the time needed to find a proper replacement.
He's the most senior player now after Casillas has left, so of course it's logical he would be given the armband. Whether he will be captain again when the leagues resume we shall see
I'm starting to think that Ramos is determined to join Manchester United.
Who's in line after him, Cristiano?
Marcelo?Benz?Modric?
I think that Marcelo Pepe and Cristiano
Is this like the pain in my left hip just before it rains, or is there a process of reasoning behind it?
If Ramos leaves and the arm band goes to anyone else, Cristiano would certainly be left "Angry and Confused".
He ain't coming, think I'd prefer Otamendi. But do still think that we need a bit of cnut installed in our squad, he's the perfect man for it
Although I'd like him maybe he is a little too old. We need a centre back who is going to be around for the next 5-6 years and be part of a recognizable spine. Granted, Ramos is a winner and a quality defender but maybe we should look at younger options, although I don't have any in mind...
I don't think this has any chance of happening anymore but if it did, imagine in the same window taking a player from both Real Madrid and Bayern Munich that personify the club and are adored by their fans. Would be amazing.
Giving him the first captain title means nothing, it's Ramos's job and everyone knows it. Taking the captaincy off him on the other hand would be a huge statement - it would be Perez declaring him so unwanted that he was ready to insult him publicly to get his point across. That's not going to happen even if he is for sale, it would only depress the valuation.
However it's also another reason why this is a difficult problem for Perez. Personally I don't see Perez wanting to risk making the atmosphere in the Bernabeu even more hostile, particularly towards his pet projects like Bale.
In fact it wouldn't even surprise me if in another month we start to hear that it's Bale who is for sale. If there was a bigger name for sale somewhere (ie: not a Barca player!) I suspect Bale would be this summer's scapegoat.
However it's also another reason why this is a difficult problem for Perez. Personally I don't see Perez wanting to risk making the atmosphere in the Bernabeu even more hostile, particularly towards his pet projects like Bale.
In fact it wouldn't even surprise me if in another month we start to hear that it's Bale who is for sale. If there was a bigger name for sale somewhere (ie: not a Barca player!) I suspect Bale would be this summer's scapegoat.
Both really - a little arthritic pain, and the way the whole story is unfolding. Not just because of some of the tweets and newspaper reports either. Why not just bid for Otamendi and get the deal done and him on a plane to the USA like the rest of our signings, after all, we only have four games to bed new players in? - I'm thinking it's because LVG wants Ramos, and knows Ramos is willing and keen to come here - I don't believe for a minute that LVG is naive enough to chase a player this much unless he's already had definite signs/conversations with either or both agent/player behind the scenes. Plus, we've had our fingers burned before over Ronaldo, so both LVG and Woody are damn sure not to get burned like that again quite so soon - it would just make us look silly! Also, if Real Madrid are so sure of themselves and Ramos, why no arrogant bid for De Gea? They haven't even bid for him yet - why? They are never usually so shy in coming forward, especially with most of their supporters crying out for De Gea as their 'Galactico' signing for this year, and Casillas already off the scene. I think they know the minute they ask about De Gea it will kick off the Ramos transfer at the same time. I think they know it's inevitable, and perhaps want some clear blue water between one legend - Casillas leaving, and another - Ramos leaving. They may even hold off on De Gea for another season, rather than allow two legends to leave at once (I can live with that!) - who knows with their internal politics! No, the minute they ask for De Gea, they know they lose Ramos. That's my wet dream and I'm sticking to it - if you'll pardon the pun!
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Otamendi won't be available for training until the end of the month. He's on the standard three weeks minimum break after the Copa America.
Damn my ignorance to hell - although why insist on Ramos instead of say Bale or just a massive fee?
Reading between the lines of Perez's comments about "players the club want to hold on to will not be leaving"... Ramos might want to leave and they are blocking it currently.
Ironic if Real are forcing a player to stay against his will when they are so adamant that players should be allowed to go where they want when they want someone.
Ironic if Real are forcing a player to stay against his will when they are so adamant that players should be allowed to go where they want when they want someone.
Good post jojojo. I agree, after how bad he did with Iker it's time for a bit of populism
Good presentation. I can only hope you're right.
I had all but written this off.
After this weekend?
I wouldn't write us off signing Messi, Hugo Sanchez and Eusebio.
If this is our scheme, got to hand it to Woodward and co. for finding a loophole in an almost certain lose-lose situation.
Wenger named Van Persie captain right before they sold him. Rodgers considered making Raheem captain before the hippie crack thing came out. Last roll of the dice of a desperate club.
I think Perez might finally be coming to terms with the fact that we're perfectly happy to let De Gea run down his contract. And I don't think De Gea is quite willing to force through a move either, so we're in a good bargaining position. Whatever the outcome, I think Woody has handled this brilliantly.
For some reason I see two scenarios and both are great for us: De Gea leaves but then Ramos comes. Or Ramos stays but so does De Gea. They can get him on a free all they want. United wont care.
However, maybe Madrid are waiting for us to sign Otemendi, after which we wont really need Ramos?
And now for some Muppet Fantasy...
Imagine a team spearheaded by the England captain, Marshaled in Midfield by the German captain and protected at the back by Spains captain!
However, maybe Madrid are waiting for us to sign Otemendi, after which we wont really need Ramos?
And now for some Muppet Fantasy...
Imagine a team spearheaded by the England captain, Marshaled in Midfield by the German captain and protected at the back by Spains captain!
We had a record fee rejected as per espn last week for bale. And Madrid aren't willing to pay more than £25m
Wouldn't bet against woody bringing Eusebio back to life
Then we won't see them De Gea, or we'd ask for someone else they don't want to sell, it really doesn't solve their problem at all.
We'd probably ask for Benzema but he doesn't want to leave.
We should just ask for Cristiano.
We are playing him as much as he is playing us. If Real wasnt after DDG, this whole saga would never have happened. In Louis' words "to see who has the biggest balls". It is us strong arming Real knowing they have contract issues with Ramos. I believe it is us messing with Real while at the same time swooping Otamendi.
Dead in the water.
Looks like Madrid are going to make him endure another two years of them lot
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