Sergio Ramos | Signs new 5 year contract
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This is more on than a rugby teams washing machine.
Unfortunately I begin to believe that is yours.Spanish press is almost unanimous,they can't stand each other and being so noisy probaby the situation is irreversible.
I fully expect both our clubs to come to an agreement involving Ramos and de Gea. The media reported a good relationship between the clubs last summer when we agreed on a deal for di Maria.
Don't be too disheartened. You'll be getting a HUGE upgrade on your goalkeeper situation. Dave can be worth 10 points over a season, possibly more.
I don't think that Perez will accept a swap.Ramos but for 65/70m€,that's to say De Gea +35/40
I believe this will happen but sadly with De Gea going the other way.
Well we value de Gea at roughly £30 million, but I do expect a deal involving money and de Gea for Ramos, maybe about £15 million.
If you lose Ramos and get De Gea, you'll be a better team. If nothing else, you've got Varane waiting in the wings to make that first-choice CB spot his.
I know,but I don't feel any excitement getting a goalkeeper.Ramos is the heart of the team
Being objective probably you are right,a good amount of money for a CB that perhaps has spent his best years in Madrid however here as you now the logic is not always the solution
Heart of the team that contains Ronaldo, Benzema, Bale, James etc?
I'm gonna go out on a limb here, but I think you'll be ok...
Yeah of course. Do you blame Ramos for this situation, or the management, or both?
Don't really know which way to take that.
You don't feel any excitement getting the future goalkeeper of Spain and one of the worlds best?
In the rear?
Of course he's not negotiating, he's already accepted our magnificent offer.
I don't think Ramos's public statements mean a great deal at this stage. He's hardly going to piss Madridistas off by saying he's been talking with United.
There's very little difference between a great goalkeeper and a very good one.
Chelsea would have won the league with Cech in goal
If Harte played for Bayern they wouldn't have achieved any less
Madrid themselves won the double with dodgy Casillas in goal
Barca rotate keepers for different competitions ffs.
People say David is worth 10-12 extra points as if any other good keeper starts at 0.
De Gea was super De Gea last year during our 3 at the back disaster period, we switched to 4 and the highlight reel became sparce. Look at Courtois. He is every bit as good as David get he played behind a solid defence and basically had a forgettable year. Having omg the greatest keeper alive meant squat for them.
De Gea still pulled off great saves but people quietened down on the 'we would be lost without him' discussion
You lose Ramos and there are very few replacements out there. You're left wih a 33 year old Pepe and a shakey Varane. That effects the confidence In your entire back 4, how the way the midfield are able to play around with the ball. Ramos was instrumental in that .
This was a slam dunk for Madrid, how Ramos became involved in this cluster muck is mind boggling. That's why Madrid fans should worry. This has been a disaster for them.
Imagine City were at Barcas level dominating Europe and England, they sign Pogba and United were messing about with a goalkeeper which involves breaking up our first choice defensive partnership.
There would be riots in here.
Chelsea would have won the league with Cech in goal
If Harte played for Bayern they wouldn't have achieved any less
Madrid themselves won the double with dodgy Casillas in goal
Barca rotate keepers for different competitions ffs.
People say David is worth 10-12 extra points as if any other good keeper starts at 0.
De Gea was super De Gea last year during our 3 at the back disaster period, we switched to 4 and the highlight reel became sparce. Look at Courtois. He is every bit as good as David get he played behind a solid defence and basically had a forgettable year. Having omg the greatest keeper alive meant squat for them.
De Gea still pulled off great saves but people quietened down on the 'we would be lost without him' discussion
You lose Ramos and there are very few replacements out there. You're left wih a 33 year old Pepe and a shakey Varane. That effects the confidence In your entire back 4, how the way the midfield are able to play around with the ball. Ramos was instrumental in that .
This was a slam dunk for Madrid, how Ramos became involved in this cluster muck is mind boggling. That's why Madrid fans should worry. This has been a disaster for them.
Imagine City were at Barcas level dominating Europe and England, they sign Pogba and United were messing about with a goalkeeper which involves breaking up our first choice defensive partnership.
There would be riots in here.
Maybe as soon as I see how solid the team is with him I will change my mind but at present I don't feel identified with him.
I understand that they don't like each other,but probably nobody in the squad likes Florentino.He put in the balance money/pride/relationships or stay in Madrid earning around 8 .Nobody is forcing him to leave so I think that 60-40 would be his fault
http://futbol.as.com/futbol/2015/07/04/primera/1436017897_335030.html
Spanish press don't know if he meant no negotiation with Real Madrid, or no negotiation with other clubs. But he did stay silent when asked if he was staying with Real.
Every player whose plays there turns into an absolute prima donna, so the sheer insult madrid didnt instantly cave to his demands due to his service and recent performances has probably put a sour taste in his mouth.
Good for us, if true, I'd say.
Negotiations between him and Real would be bad. If there are none, it may mean he's set on leaving.
Madrid don't have to negotiate with him. He has 2 years left on his contract.
Agreed.Atletico had Courtois,we had a dodgy Iker but was Ramos who won C.L
Madrid might have won the double again last season with DdG in Goal.
Not sure what to think about Ramos. I voted "Not bad I guess" but I am not a fan of these "quick fix deals". We Need Players that are great now and will still be in 3 or 5 years time.
However, Ramos seems to be a real leader so he might give our defense a big boost.
Florentino is a big fan of Bernabeu,and one of his famous sentences was "if someone is not happy in Madrid he knows where is the door",these last days that sentence is more and more repeated in Marca and Madrid forums.If he talks publicly then he will be sold.
True. But I'm assuming they won't want to keep an unhappy player without making a serious effort to get him back on side.
Exactly what Charley said.
Plus by him saying he's not negotiating, that can easily mean he isn't talking to any other club. Hence why I said it could easily be considered good or bad. Either way, Madrid can just sit tight knowing he's under contract.
Reporter asked him how was negotiations going?
Ramos gave his answer
Clear as day he meant with Madrid. If discussions haven't opened after all this Then he's on his way IMO
Ramos gave his answer
Clear as day he meant with Madrid. If discussions haven't opened after all this Then he's on his way IMO
We would be in such a strong position if De Gea committed to United. But the bloody donut stealing lamah wants to go.
So does Ramos?
Yeah but the fact they want De Gea and we want Ramos means if we want Ramos we have to sacrifice De Gea and vice versa. If De Gea wanted to stay and Ramos still wanted United we could really feck them.
If he was he wouldn't limit himself to United alone. Plus the agents would mention that 'United is interested in Ramos. Ramos is going to decide his future in a few days'. Not 'I'm going to leave irrespective of what happens'
I don't trust Ramos at all on this. I will wait for the official word from his mum.
Imagine if we say to them "Ramos first, then you get De Gea", but the signing of Ramos then convinces De Gea to stay...
We were already basically set to lose De Gea. The Ramos angle at least restores some balance to the equation. One of our key players wants to move to them, and one of theirs wants to come to us.
Obviously in a dream world De Gea wouldn't want to move at all and Ramos still would. And Messi, Vidal and Benzema would all suddenly decide that Manchester is where it's at. But I don't see what that has to do with anything.
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