I agree that Longstaff has good vision and passing range. But I wouldn't say Matic's passing range or vision is bad, eventhough he looks a shadow of the player he once was.
No, it’s not bad. It’s just not good enough.
In two years maybe..
Longstaff is 3.5 years older.
Fair. Probably means something when I'm thinking more about Lord of the Rings than porn. I've surprised myself.
Did you watch him in the Newcastle first team?
Tielemans has been a known and rising star for about 4 years now. Literally the ONLY reason Longstaff is being spoken about is because United are supposedly interested in him and beating off competition from nobody
Apt choice of wording. If he were to join Newcastle he would be utterly exposed. Crazy how nearly two years of utterly contemptible performances and we still have a massive overrating of his ability based on his past exploits. The bloke is finished. Longstaff would improve upon him immediately, and that isn't to say Longstaff is any great player. Matic is just been that bad.
well, personally those 13 Leicester games make all the difference to me. In the Anderlecht games I saw I wasn't that convinced (I liked Dendoncker a lot more) and he showed little to nothing at Monaco. If it weren't for those Leicester games, I wouldn't be convinced at all that he could be good enough.
Come on, mate. Matic is done at the very top level but you’re off your rocker if you think a player who has started 8 Premier League games in his career would be better.
Tielemans has been hyped up since he was 16 playing in the Jupiler league. After his failure in France he's lucky he's done well in the limited time at Leicester or we wouldn't be having this conversation and he'd be heading back to Belgium or on loan to some obscure club in Europe.
you are a very harsh man. Tielemans has also played champions league and Europa (made team of the tournament) whilst making 11 apps for Belgium in 2018 whilst Longstaff is uncapped at any level in England......
I like the player though and do see the merits in signing him. His potential is there for sure, but i'm not sure he'd be a good fit with Pogba in the same setup.
Why not? It's like people aren't watching Matic play. How many more times must we see him caught on the ball, take 5 too many touches, have midfielders literally jog past him on the counter attack? We've seen Mctominay, a player as inexperienced as Longstaff and with arguably less pedigree at youth level, come in and offer significant improvement on Matic, yet it's outlandish to suggest a player, who has already shown he is capable of holding his own against top sides, and who is very highly rated, could not come in and he an improvement.
Nah, it's the classic "rate a player on his performances and not his reputation," trope. I've been saying it after his initial 6 months of joining, and I'm not one to regularly criticize our players. He's been that bad. When a player doesn't even have the fitness to keep up in a premier league game, and so can't perform the basics like follow his runner, it's time to call it how it is. We've seen Mctominay, a player who really wasn't particularly rated, come in and offer a significant improvement on Matic because he's at least capable of keeping up with play.
Now that sounds appealing.
Yes, because we want to avoid another Maguire situation.
No he doesn't and no he isn't. He was in the past, but he isn't any more, hence why he takes considerably more touches than needed, and why he gets caught on the ball as frequently as he does. Our single biggest problem in possession is our inability to play out from the back, and that happens when Matic is playing. With someone like Mctominay, and I am by no means a fan of his, he at least mitigates that weakness somewhat by the defensive side of his game, which has all but disappeared from Matic's.
What's your opinion regards his ability on the ball? Would he be as good as Matic or better?
