baaahahaha - must be a wind up!
Seamus Coleman
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The prices are inflated in general in England and a little bit more inflated for United.
Coleman is such a 'meh' signing - would instantly be the worst RB out of the 'top 4' clubs - why are we (allegedly) bothering?
You mean opinion? Coleman is, imo, better than Carvajal. Your post is essentially a non post.
Or an opinion, you know those things people have on football.
hold up, let me get this straight you genuinely think Coleman is better than Carvajal? *sniggers*
Yes. I think he's the better player. Of course, it's 100% impossible to prove such a thing to be wrong or right which is why your belligerent stance is somewhat laughable (and quite juvenile).
ok noted.
ps. apologies if you think I am acting juvenile, but just the absurdness of it (hence the multiple posters being bewildered). Each to their own, I suppose.
He's currently better than either Debuchy or Bellerin, though obviously Bellerin looks seriously talented. Zabaleta is arguably in decline too. Ivan is obviously better than Coleman but is a very different type of RB (as he is actually a CB).
No problem. I wasn't expecting there to be a consensus regarding Coleman being better than Carvajal -- it's just my personal opinion, I'd prefer to have Coleman.
Champions League final....you're playing Barcelona, or Bayern Munich or a team of that ilk and you can choose out of Coleman or Carvajal to stick into your starting lineup....you would choose Coleman?!
Would be marginal for me. If Coleman had a season with an elite club and played massive, high pressure CL games, then reached a final -- I'd have no problem with selecting him over Carvajal. As it stands, Carvajal would get the nod due to his big game experience, having played a CL already for example.
In general? Yes. For that specific game, no.
Along with Juanfran, he was the best right-back in La Liga over the course of the whole campaign last season (and put in an excellent performance vs Barcelona in Madrid's 3-1 win over them). He was also one of the best performing right-backs in the Bundesliga during his season at Bayern Leverkusen. He has done very well so far and he is one of the better right-backs around in world football ATM, especially now that Lahm does not play there anymore and with Alves decline (although he had a very good 2nd half to the season and it continued with Brazil at the Copa America so perhaps he is finding his top form again).
Where are you from?
I'm not saying Carvajal is bad -- I'd have him here in a heartbeat. I'm just saying that, IMO, there's little difference between him and Coleman in terms of talent. If someone wants to break it down and try and prove otherwise, I'd be happy to change my opinion. Coleman was the best RB in the PL in 13/14, had a decent season in a shite Everton side last year.
Why does that factor into the equation? You must be from the same country as a player in order to rate him higher than another? If I said Pirlo was better than Gerrard, would you ask if I was Italian?
Coleman is as good as Gary Neville and he did just fine for us and according to Jamie Carragher the best right back in the PL last season. Probably was. He could be a mainstay for us for 6-7 years. Our Irwin if we are very lucky.
lulwut
ps. Even if it were true, different era, etc...
Still can't have a different opinion on here without being shot down I see.
Nope.You are Irish then?
It was easy to ascertain your motive behind asking it. Your next step would be to attribute bias to my reasoning if I had have been Irish.
Not at all. But expect the heat when you make outlandish statements that defy the state of football according to the many. e.g. Januzaj had a better cross completion rate than Neymar therefore is better...etc
If Carvajol is such a good player, why have Real spent 20M euros on Danilo?
£30m.
ok - let's start with why you think the 26 year old Everton RB is better than a 23 year old Real Madrid RB?
Better defensively or offensively (or both?!)
Why have they spent 30m on Coentrao and Illarramendi?
@devilish Now that I put these transfers on paper, you are right 25m is about right.
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err same reason Chelski spent all that on Felipe Luiz - guessing that was because Azpilicueta was/is playing soo poor for them huh?
They spent a similar amount of Coentrao to be back up to Marcelo.
For me Coleman and Clyne belong to same bracket of players,neither of them would look better then Valencia in Europe competitions imo,PL is something else. We need RB and there are not many in pool to pick from.
Just out of curiosity, how good do you guys do on Football Manager? Or do you think the game is broken?
Hate to be a nuisance, but this thread started with people stating that Coleman was many levels below the likes of Carvajal. I said this is not the case. The point is, that the onus is on those who made the first assertion to prove why Coleman isn't in the same league as Carvajal.
Definitely better offensively, fwiw.
Carvajal has easily been the best RB in La Liga for two years in a row. He's put in a few Motm performances, which is hard for a RB in a team with Ronaldo, Bale etc.
That said, I have no idea who coleman is so I can't compare.
Complete garbage Coleman in a settled back 4 could be just as great as any of the other options out there.
Don't play FM, never have. Why do you reduce everything to a ridicule of the poster rather than the content of the post?
Real knowingly spend 20M euros on a substitute?
Coleman is a talented RB and probably the best in the PL last season and would definitely improve the United defence, where would he rank in the top 5 RB in Europe though is a matter of opinion
I don't think you can explain things that RM does... For example, if Sneijder and Robben is so good, why have Real let them go for so cheap at their prime?