Disagree. He would be a decent 2/3 option behind an established striker. We've demanded fat too much from him too early on.
Screw PSR - We HAVE to buy in Jan
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Disagree. He would be a decent 2/3 option behind an established striker. We've demanded fat too much from him too early on.
It would be great to know what we can afford, and if there is going to point deduction then when will that happen?
It will nuke our season and we'll get relegated if we do
I understand the frustration but we need to be realistic here.
7 points above relegation and I wouldn't back us against anyone in the league right now.
Probably right about teams being worse than us but have a loo at yourself if that's the argument you need to apply to Man Utd
They absolutely have to spend. LWB and a midfielder at bare minimum.
If Chelsea can buy £1B worth of players, we can spend money.
If Chelsea can buy £1B worth of players, we can spend money.
What has Hojlund ever done to deserve any sympathy? He's been utter crap for us in the PL, which is where it matters. He's nowehere near the standard we need and i'd love to see him shipped off asap.
Possibly no PL football for a year either.
You don't think the owners of the club ultimately take responsibility for the running of the club? Blame rolls upwards. If the managers have been shit, the director should have fixed it. If the director has not done their job, then the owners should have fixed it. If the owners don't give a shit, the club is basically doomed. Do you not think it's a bit of a coincidence that they're the only constant at the club since it started going downhill?
Is that what I'm doing is it? It's an utterly, utterly insane state of affairs that we are even at the point where we can talk about this, given how much we are paying these absolutely shit footballers of ours, on that we can agree. But we don't need to break the rules to stay up, and that's how we get back: we do things the right way, like we used to.
If there are a number of clubs in for him then why would he choose us? I mean, I would, obviously, because it's United, but assuming he has multiple options why would he choose a United side in freefall? Unless he's a big history fan the only reason I can think of is if we blow the other offers out of the water by offering colossal wages, which I think most fans want us to move away from.
He has had flashes of form in the league and been excellent in Europe. He should never have been signed to lead the line at a club like ours. Behind established options he would be a fantastic prospect.
Would agree there, deliberately breaking PSR would be insanely stupid
Onana- new hole struggling, should be replaced at some point
Martinez- was player of the season and captain tonight. Surely we can’t question his fight?
De Ligt- is good enough
Yoro incredible potential
Dalot player of the year a year ago but perhaps doesn’t fit the system
Maz class
Etc
Is the issue cm and forward?
Martinez- was player of the season and captain tonight. Surely we can’t question his fight?
De Ligt- is good enough
Yoro incredible potential
Dalot player of the year a year ago but perhaps doesn’t fit the system
Maz class
Etc
Is the issue cm and forward?
Anyone who thinks we should take a points hit and certain relegation, expecting that the club could survive that financially, needs their bumps feeling.
We are a loss making club, with massive player overheads, in need of massive investment in the stadium, in need of a squad rebuild and are carrying a £900m debt, that needs servicing.
Any action that tips us over the edge will be suicidal.
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We are a loss making club, with massive player overheads, in need of massive investment in the stadium, in need of a squad rebuild and are carrying a £900m debt, that needs servicing.
Any action that tips us over the edge will be suicidal.
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We'd get absolutely shafted and end up paying well over the odds. They'd absolutely prey on our desperation.
They 'prefer not to' because of huge financial losses. Simple.
Yes. Shame we are left with these guys as our Investors and future owners.
They will surely be looking at loans and shifting some players to free up funds. There must be some half decent names not getting minutes or pushing to leave who play CM or WB
They can't just throw money at the club.
Oh I agree, I’m just listing half decent players who are either unhappy or coming to the end of the contract in the summer In positions we need
I mean if we are able to sell Rashford wouldn't that be pure profit in the books? Would have to assume that would allow some moves to be made. Need to target a wingback for loan, then get some attacking help. Get maz back to cb, loan in some actual wingback that has a decent level, and finding some help on putting the ball in the net should be enough to see us thru this season and allow for the full rebuild
If we can’t even bring in a cheap left back, it’s no surprise Ashworth got the sack for keeping Ten Hag and signing Zirkzee. Thats cost the club what, like £50 million? It’s sackable.
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Solid logic. Guarantee relegation to avoid a possible relegation. Wait… what?!!
No we didn’t. It was a myth. We still don’t know if Jassim exists.
They are the ones who appoint the people to run the club.
They put Ed Woodward in CEO position in 2012 and he played real life Football Manager with the club until he left in 2022. The sole reason for why we are in this mess in the first place. A decade of slow downward spiral.
In an alternate universe Ed appoints a Director of Football and looks to establish an Avengers like footballing board to run the show while he focuses on the business side.
What kind of points deduction would we be looking at? If signing just two wing-backs would suddenly have us playing amazing stuff would it be worth it?
Surely the points reduction would be next season, no?
Not necessarily. They seem to be pretty hot on this now.
Ideally we need new players. We're going nowhere without bringing in players who can work hard and actually do basic things like passing, crossing and finishing. However, bringing in new players won't help us when we get relegated due to the points deduction.
What we need is to be smart like Chelsea and *sigh* Barcelona and think outside the box for ways to work the system.
Disclaimer: I do not think Barca are smart with their levers, just the way they think of new ideas to get around the problem...which will never actually be able to bite them in the ass because they know that they are too important to be allowed to fail.
What we need is to be smart like Chelsea and *sigh* Barcelona and think outside the box for ways to work the system.
Disclaimer: I do not think Barca are smart with their levers, just the way they think of new ideas to get around the problem...which will never actually be able to bite them in the ass because they know that they are too important to be allowed to fail.
We could sell Rashford and Garnaucho and then the situation would be pretty much resolved but United would need a player like Cunha or Osimhen in plus a wing back, I’d get a couple of loan deals as well.
Even Ben Chilwell on loan with a point to prove would be revolutionary in this terrible team plus Chukweumeka from Chelsea as young English number 10.
I honestly believe that everyone who thinks Qatari owners are a great idea deserves to die as a slave on a Qatari construction site without any protection rules for workers.
It's just morally deprived to cheer for a club financed by blood money and I think most English fans are far to welcoming for this.
Not guna lie, we could do a lot worse than loan Reguilon, Sabitzer and Weghorst this Jan.
surely selling rashford would ease some pressure on us? as for business in january i dont know - hernandez sure, i know people dont like him but i think jonathan david is good and only has 6 months on his deal left.
but we can throw names about all day, mostly the clubs that do great business bring in players that were under the radar and chosen to fit what the club was looking for, rather than just shoehorning in a plausible available option
but we can throw names about all day, mostly the clubs that do great business bring in players that were under the radar and chosen to fit what the club was looking for, rather than just shoehorning in a plausible available option
Im looking at Nottingham Forest and how well they play. Our squad is as good as theirs easily but they can play a bit.
Our initial problem is a coaching problem, longer term its a player problem. We should give Amorin some time with this squad first to see if he can make a difference before doing the usual mistake of throwing cash around
Our initial problem is a coaching problem, longer term its a player problem. We should give Amorin some time with this squad first to see if he can make a difference before doing the usual mistake of throwing cash around
Loan with obligation deals would count for next season, wouldn't they?
We'd get rinsed but at least no deduction - which make no mistake, would be disasterous in the current climate
We'd get rinsed but at least no deduction - which make no mistake, would be disasterous in the current climate
No one will buy him in Jan. Money won't move around the market and if it's a quiet window in the EPL, it's a quiet window across all the major leagues in Europe.
We are not shifting any big contract players because their true worth isn't event a third of what they're earning.
How is it determined how much we're able to spend in January without getting in trouble?
Surely we can spend some amount of money, right?
Surely we can spend some amount of money, right?