Scottish Football 2024/25

I know the SPL is not one of the better leagues but I’m amazed at the total lack of quality in this Rangers/Kilmarnock game.

The amount of times players have tripped over the ball at their feet, bounced several yards away while trying to control it or completely missed the flight while trying to kick it is like watching a stag parties 11-a side. Sky should be giving a discount for having the nerve to air this as a professional game:
And they should be reprimanded for not showing aberdeen v Celtic, 2 unbeaten teams at the top of the league .... awful
 
We should be absolutely smashing Rangers 1-0 based on this performance.
 
Would love to know what the Rangers fans think of their manager, they've been awful whenever I've caught one of their matches.
 
I know the SPL is not one of the better leagues but I’m amazed at the total lack of quality in this Rangers/Kilmarnock game.

The amount of times players have tripped over the ball at their feet, bounced several yards away while trying to control it or completely missed the flight while trying to kick it is like watching a stag parties 11-a side. Sky should be giving a discount for having the nerve to air this as a professional game:

Not sure but is this game on an artificial pitch? The pitch looks odd
 
Would love to know what the Rangers fans think of their manager, they've been awful whenever I've caught one of their matches.
The bears are not happy, understandably. Awful performance. Awful result. Playing Aberdeen next midweek, away from home - Wednesday week. If they lose, they will be in a massive battle for second place. They might already be in a massive battle for 2nd.
 
Why on earth did Rangers give him a new contract to 2028 this season? The only thing worse than their playing squad is the people running the club.
 
Why on earth did Rangers give him a new contract to 2028 this season? The only thing worse than their playing squad is the people running the club.
The general consensus is that he was apparently lied to by Rangers board re decent money being available at time of appointment. They then gave him the extension as an appreciation that he will have to manage the club in difficult circumstances on a limited budget. Rumour was that he was going to walk at end of season if they didn't extend his contract because of false promises re money available.
 
The general consensus is that he was apparently lied to by Rangers board re decent money being available at time of appointment. They then gave him the extension as an appreciation that he will have to manage the club in difficult circumstances on a limited budget. Rumour was that he was going to walk at end of season if they didn't extend his contract because of false promises re money available.
Interesting. Bet he wishes he had stuck to his principles and walked out.
 
Interesting. Bet he wishes he had stuck to his principles and walked out.
Privately, I'd imagine he now wishes he had walked alright.

It's a phenomenally tough job, their fans expect them to win the league every season but, financially, their budget is nowhere near Celtics budget so it makes it very tough. At least with Aberdeen, the pressure to win league every season is not there so they can grow as a club, organically, without the burden of unrealistic expectations.
 
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We won 4-5 on penalties in the second round of the Scottish Cup against a team called Jeanfield Swifts, from Perth, who play in the sixth tier of Scottish football. The game ended 1-1 after extra time.
 
14 in a row. Aberdeen turned it on once it started raining. A good omen for the winter months ahead.
 
Aberdeen back in front. The commentator for them Scottish games is so much better than all the others. He should be used more.
 
Rangers in 3rd and 9 points behind Celtic and Aberdeen. Surely that's it for the manager now?

Also, what's happened at Aberdeen to make them so good this season?
 
Rangers in 3rd and 9 points behind Celtic and Aberdeen. Surely that's it for the manager now?

Also, what's happened at Aberdeen to make them so good this season?
They also have a new manager.
 
What a result. Apart from 20 minutes in the second half, think that was deserved
 
Aberdeen have been fantastic this season.
It's fantastic and fair play to them. But it must be disheartening to have an almost perfect start to the season and still be in 2nd. Highly unlikely they keep up but would be great if they do.

Nobody (outside the top 2) has won since they did about 40 years ago. Would be a fun Leicester like season if they pull it off. Hard to see Celtic dropping many points though
 
It's fantastic and fair play to them. But it must be disheartening to have an almost perfect start to the season and still be in 2nd. Highly unlikely they keep up but would be great if they do.

Nobody (outside the top 2) has won since they did about 40 years ago. Would be a fun Leicester like season if they pull it off. Hard to see Celtic dropping many points though
Yeah that's the difference. Aberdeen could have had this type of season in other years when Celtic have 'only' got to 80-something points. But right now they look set for somewhere around 100 points which is going to be almost impossible to keep pace with.
It’s so strange how poor Rangers are domestically compared to Europe. Celtic the opposite.
It's a reflection on the squad and the types of managers we have had. All the recent Rangers managers were good at playing organised, compact, ball-retaining football that takes you far in Europe, but isn't that helpful for the domestic game. The squad was similar with a load of competitive, tidy, hard-working midfielders, as well as transition-specialists like Kent and Morelos who came alive in Europe. Kent in particular struggled against deep-lying domestic defences. For Celtic however both Rodgers and Ange specialised in attacking overloads and high chance creation against weaker teams, which is ideal for racking up goals and points in league matches, but leaves you wide open against real quality in Europe.
 
It's fantastic and fair play to them. But it must be disheartening to have an almost perfect start to the season and still be in 2nd. Highly unlikely they keep up but would be great if they do.

Nobody (outside the top 2) has won since they did about 40 years ago. Would be a fun Leicester like season if they pull it off. Hard to see Celtic dropping many points though

TBH I don’t think they will be feeling a little disheartened at all right now. To be even in that position after a terrible season last year, losing your top goal scorer, along with a new manager on board and a host of new players all with very little experience in Scottish football is absolutely remarkable and beyond what they were expecting. Literally beyond their wildest dreams that 2nd place with Champions League qualification might be a big possibility this season considering the mess Rangers are in.

Like you said, will be amazing if they go all the way like Leicester did in 2016 but hard to see this Celtic team dropping that many points in a league with 10 shite teams.
 
If Aberdeen win the league (unlikely, I know), Jimmy Thelin will be seen as the biggest 'disrupter' since SAF and Jim McLean were in town.
 
They won't win it but they have a very big opportunity to get 2nd now and that will be a top achievement for them.
 
Yeah that's the difference. Aberdeen could have had this type of season in other years when Celtic have 'only' got to 80-something points. But right now they look set for somewhere around 100 points which is going to be almost impossible to keep pace with.

It's a reflection on the squad and the types of managers we have had. All the recent Rangers managers were good at playing organised, compact, ball-retaining football that takes you far in Europe, but isn't that helpful for the domestic game. The squad was similar with a load of competitive, tidy, hard-working midfielders, as well as transition-specialists like Kent and Morelos who came alive in Europe. Kent in particular struggled against deep-lying domestic defences. For Celtic however both Rodgers and Ange specialised in attacking overloads and high chance creation against weaker teams, which is ideal for racking up goals and points in league matches, but leaves you wide open against real quality in Europe.
 
Yeah that's the difference. Aberdeen could have had this type of season in other years when Celtic have 'only' got to 80-something points. But right now they look set for somewhere around 100 points which is going to be almost impossible to keep pace with.

It's a reflection on the squad and the types of managers we have had. All the recent Rangers managers were good at playing organised, compact, ball-retaining football that takes you far in Europe, but isn't that helpful for the domestic game. The squad was similar with a load of competitive, tidy, hard-working midfielders, as well as transition-specialists like Kent and Morelos who came alive in Europe. Kent in particular struggled against deep-lying domestic defences. For Celtic however both Rodgers and Ange specialised in attacking overloads and high chance creation against weaker teams, which is ideal for racking up goals and points in league matches, but leaves you wide open against real quality in Europe.
Agree with this. Yous struggle to beat low block defences domestically, we find way given our attacking philosophy. Yee are in real trouble - yee just posted 17 million losses in latest accounts. Don't see how yee win league for a good few years. I think Aberdeen will finish second.
 
Agree with this. Yous struggle to beat low block defences domestically, we find way given our attacking philosophy. Yee are in real trouble - yee just posted 17 million losses in latest accounts. Don't see how yee win league for a good few years. I think Aberdeen will finish second.
Rangers are in significant trouble off the pitch. Not just the magnitude of last year’s losses but the absence of any meaningful European income this fiscal year, even with a lower wage bill, will again likely mean vast operating losses. Their wage bill was 5.5x that of Aberdeen. The incompetence in player recruitment and granting of generous player contracts is quite shocking ie despite the revenue gap in Celtic’s favour until this year there wasn’t much difference in their personnel costs. Clement’s contract extension to 2028 before securing European qualification is another shocking decision.

Aberdeen last had a chance to win the League when Ronny was managing Celtic. They ran out of steam as they didn’t augment the squad in January. This time round they should be able to get in loans etc in January whereas, at the very same time, Rangers need to further reduce their wage bill.
 
Rangers recruitment looks a mile off of Celtics. I look at their squad and it's journeymen galore
 
Rangers recruitment looks a mile off of Celtics. I look at their squad and it's journeymen galore
It was terrible under Beale/Wilson. Lammers, Dessers, Cifuentes, Davies, Ramsey - too much money for too little return. Problem is a lot of the money has been wasted and the wage bill bloated with ageing players. But the signings in the last 12 months have strategically been much better. Jefte looks like a bargain, Barron already a key player for pennies, Diomande and Bajrami are promising players and will likely be able to be sold on for more. Igamane has a lot of talent but needs developing. Cortes and Danilo both badly injured but very capable. So a lot of work to bring in players in their early 20s. Now there's only one player left from the team that reached the Europa League final and Clement is basically having to rebuild the team. I doubt he'll keep us competitive enough in the meantime to see that through.

Aberdeen last had a chance to win the League when Ronny was managing Celtic. They ran out of steam as they didn’t augment the squad in January. This time round they should be able to get in loans etc in January whereas, at the very same time, Rangers need to further reduce their wage bill.

Equally though by January if Rangers get Yilmaz, Cortes and Danilo back and fit then that's a lot of quality to add into the mix.
 
Today showed the huge gulf in quality in the SPL as 1st place Celtic demolished Aberdeen 6-0 in the League Cup Semi-Final. :lol: