Yep that was fully down to not selling Maguire and still spitting feathers we missed out
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Yep that was fully down to not selling Maguire and still spitting feathers we missed out
City indirectly helping us get 40+ million for McTominay
Hopefully so
Don't know what's funny about keeping mediocrity
We’re already signing Amrabat when Fred and Donny leave. What would be the point in bringing in yet another new face who will need to adapt and no guarantee of playing time or any guarantee of being better?
Yes he should be, but it's not like the club is refusing to buy new players and forcing the manager to make do with the existing squad. So don't think ambition comes into it. Plus I am hoping we would get a CM anyway as Fred is being sold and Van de Beek is going on loan too, besides another CB. So a total of 5 signings expected to play a big role next season is a lot (not counting a backup GK).
I'm so glad you aren't anywhere near our transfer dealings. Stay close to the keyboard mate
God I hope so, most underwhelming midfield signing of the summer. Swapping one average player in McTominay for another.
Fecking Amrabat. Loads of big clubs have wanted DM’s this summer and this guy is available for 20 odd mil and nobody wants to touch him. Crap
They are supposedly getting a midfielder on loan from City as part of the deal for Paquetá as well. Not sure if they’d need/want Mctominay as well as Ward Prowse.
Weren’t they linked with Cole Palmer recently?
They should. Soucek isn’t very good.
It's moving players out while they have some value. McTominays form for Scotland has given him some value, but I'd he stays with us he'll rarely play and when he does it will show how below par he actually is. I always dread when he needs to start fo us because 9 time.out of 10 we are losing the midfield battle
A more serious club puts Maguire up for sale and proceeds to do the deal for KMJ with the plan to sell on Maguire when West Ham inevitably come in. Maybe we would have lost a few million from West Ham lowballing us but the upside of having a potential upgrade/replacement for the injury prone Varane would have been so worth. Again, football is not really a priority under the Glazers.
Could afford a decent backup 9 too if we can sell McTominay before the end of this window
what’s that
Yep you have absolutely nailed it,losing out on him was an absolute catastrophe
I know it would probably get widely shit on as a suggestion but I'd like us to see if Chupo-Moting would be available for a nominal fee now that Kane is going to Bayern.
I think he'd be ideal backup for a season.
Wouldn't shit on it at all,we should have gone for him over Weghorst last January
If Donny and Fred's fees are potentially covering Amrabat's arrival and Harry's fee is potentially covering a new CB's arrival, what would McT's and (possibly) Henderson's money go towards?
When you see how Liverpool bud 110m for Caicedo, and even though the snub was comedy gold
, it still underpins how serious our rivals are about strengthening and here we are still haggling over 10m with West Ham when we should have taken the money and ran. The team, as things stand, doesn't look ready or have multiple options should the risky midfield plan A gets exposed. I mean what do we do if the Casemiro-Bruno-Mount trio fails to work out? Go back to Eriksen?Remarkable overreaction to this on here.
Multiple managers giving him significant minutes and the club's evaluation of him should have some reconsidering how they see the guy. Plenty on here were happy to make statements along the lines of him being a championship(and sometimes lower) player and social media being the echo chamber it is, with people hating to be seen to reconsider their views, there is still a bit of that in how he is talked about.
Which is ridiculous, guy needs to go for his own career development, build on his Scotland form, and role, but he is a decent PL midfielder.
And Amrabat ain't all that.
Multiple managers giving him significant minutes and the club's evaluation of him should have some reconsidering how they see the guy. Plenty on here were happy to make statements along the lines of him being a championship(and sometimes lower) player and social media being the echo chamber it is, with people hating to be seen to reconsider their views, there is still a bit of that in how he is talked about.
Which is ridiculous, guy needs to go for his own career development, build on his Scotland form, and role, but he is a decent PL midfielder.
And Amrabat ain't all that.
If City buys Paqueta they've lost two starting midfielders for a shitload of cash! Come on WH, he's all yours for 60 mil...
Should go on a backup Striker without doubt as we can't get a better midfielder than Amrabat
You do love a hyperbole, don't you?
If we are so wrong that should be reflected in the market. One single bidder, who refuses to go above 30m. What is the rest of the market thinking?
West Ham need a striker and at least 1 more midfielder. Scotty and Martial would be a great fit 
West Ham need a striker and at least 1 more midfielder. Scotty and Martial would be a great fit
Turks could ride to rescue for Martial
Missing out on such an easy to make and needed signing was a blow. We can soften it as much as we want but we clearly wanted him but couldn't move on him because we prioritised other signings and were waiting to shift out a few. We are also too kind on players we want out to an extent that they can play games with suitors when they come calling.
To get close to £200 million for Rice and Paqueta is insane business - they are good, but not that good.
West Ham better pay up, as they are somehow selling their midfield for 200 million this summer. If Paqueta is 85 million upwards, 40 million for McT looks a bargain, and I’m not even joking. Reckon he’d do very well for the Hammers in a more advanced role.
Posts like this without any context won't help .
We have a limited budget due to ffp.
Our priority has been Mount , striker and GK.
We had no idea how much would that cost (Chelsea's initial demands were 70m)
We asked KMJ to wait but he didn't (understandably so)
Now connect the dots. If you still think we made the wrong move-
you are either so bad in math
or
just want to blame the owners (it was all Arnold and Murtough)
Or
Just think we have unlimited money with us and we can do whatever we want.
I don't think it's a joke at all. If someone honestly wants to tell me that Paqeuta is another level to McTominay at his absolute best I just wouldn't believe them.
Some people really do forget how good McTominay has been at times.
How else is missing out on best around in his position not considered catastrophic
£40m plus addons and he's yours
It was all going too well. Something had to give.
Got everything crossed he has this as badly wrong as Kane staying yesterday
Oh we remember exactly how good he's been...
That's why I referred to a more serious club, why couldn't we get short term funding to finish the deal and then push Maguire out later? Top players are in demand they don't usually wait and our attractiveness was affected by not having a clear starting role for him so to ask him to wait until mid August wasnt on. The same club that bought him is now open to selling us Pavard which will balance their books so it looks like they were in the same boat as us but just smarter.
It's not like we were out of options, also we would have known of West Ham's interest in McTom and Maguire so getting a short term loan to sign KMJ and then pushing these two out was always on the cards but we didn't make the move. Football wasn't the priority and if I am a player in demand and you are telling me to wait I am concluding you don't really want me that badly.
Come on Hammers show us the money and make Sheth's tweet look totally foolish
I was talking more about him being a protected player. As if there aren't any other players at the club who probably should have been moved on much quicker.
Speaking so much sense but some on here just don't wanna hear it unfortunately
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