Scott McTominay | Transfer discussion not performance discussion

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So why the feck are we keeping McTominay then? He doesn't add good depth. He's far below the acceptable standard and has been ever since he broke through. We're not adding Amrabat if we don't sell McTominay.
Who says that?
 
I guess we're worried we're a little short on numbers if we have 5 CM's + Mainoo, so keeping Mctominay around in case of an injury crisis.

But we have to understand Mctominay's value will only plummet from here as he sits on our bench 90% of the time and he gets older. We'll end up selling him for peanuts next summer, wondering why we didn't take the £30m and run.

Obviously I'm assuming Amrabat is still being signed when Fred+VDB leave.
 
Scott staying makes us weaker. Mount being the only addition to our midfield is not good enough.

He was a clear position to upgrade. We need competition for places and McT offer zero.
 
That's a ton of baseless assumptions based on absolutely nothing.
It's speculation- a forum's not a court of law. There's circumstantial evidence, so people needn't get defensive. It's not like I don't appreciate what SAF did for the club, clearly. You just have to at least hesitate for a moment and ask why this player, in particular, has been protected so heavily above others.
 
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Here's to another season of barely making the team and watching his value decrease even more till he leaves for 10mill or a free when his contract runs out

Oh crap… so we are not signing Tchouameni then
 
It's speculation- a forum's not a court of law. There's circumstantial evidence, so people needn't get defensive. It's not like I don't appreciate what SAF did for the club, clearly. You just have to at least hesitate for a moment and ask why this player, in particular, has been protected so heavily above others.
There's absolutely no evidence of the sort. Not one. Zilch.
 
He's worth keeping if we properly use him as a utility player.

He can play CB, as an 8 and I think he could even play fullback and CF and give you something.

Just use him properly.
 
Might well be true but Sky Sports are truly hopeless so I’m not putting too much into what they say.

Romano seems certain Amrabat depends on Fred and Van de Beek going, hopefully that’s the case.
 
Oh well. Was hoping we would in a backup DM after McFredVdB leave and keep both Mainoo and Mejbri around for cup/smaller games but seems like one of Mainoo/Mejbri will go out on loan. I guess Mejbri again because Mainoo’s closer to an EtH midfielder.
 
I'd rather we had kept Fred instead of him
If the contract situations were reversed or the same, I'd agree but Fred is in his last year. As long as we get a back up DM, which I assume to be Amrabat, McT staying isn't a terrible scenario. I think the bigger issue is his value will only go down, so this summer is a perfect time to sell a player that won't really be used while at his peak value.
 
Another Romero/Everton moronic call, honestly speaking whoever is responsible for this could have just cost Ten Hag his job and needs to walk with him when things go wrong. In this FFP era we cant be turning our noses down on money for a useless player.

Ten Hag might lose his job because the club didn't sell McTominay the moment @AneRu from the Caf wanted him gone?
 
He is not good enough IMO but still decent enough that we are better of with him if we don't have a replacement lined up. Fred can go for sure, but Scott needs replacing if he goes. So I guess it's a game of what it would cost to get someone better vs the price we need for him.
 
Ten Hag might lose his job because the club didn't sell McTominay the moment @AneRu from the Caf wanted him gone?
If Mount is the only midfield addition we make then yes we will struggle and if we struggle you know who pays the price first. To put us in such a position because we chose to keep McTominay over a £5m gap in valuations is gross mismanagement, we aren't getting as high a fee for him and we already know his limitations. If this is not a bluff then it's a daft decision to make with the level of squad building we still need to do.

Make fun of it if you want but it is these decisions that have constantly held us back from building an elite team. Blind loyalty to average and below average players who consistently let us down the moment a bit of pressure is applied.
 
Slightly worried that this means we're not all that serious about getting another midfielder in.
 
It's a dumb decision but it's expected because a lot of people associated with the club have always been deluded about his worth.
 
If Mount is the only midfield addition we make then yes we will struggle and if we struggle you know who pays the price first. To put us in such a position because we chose to keep McTominay over a £5m gap in valuations is gross mismanagement, we aren't getting as high a fee for him and we already know his limitations. If this is not a bluff then it's a daft decision to make with the level of squad building we still need to do.

Make fun of it if you want but it is these decisions that have constantly held us back from building an elite team. Blind loyalty to average and below average players who consistently let us down the moment a bit of pressure is applied.

I guess you are right. Hope the club will back the next manager by selling McTominay as fast as possible.
 
If Casemiro gets injured or suspended and we roll out the Mctominay and Mount midfield, people are going to lose their shit when they see how mediocre it is.

In my opinion other than at gk and maybe not with Hendo still around, DM is the biggest drop off in quality from our starter to back up. We absolutely need another CM in place of McT.
 
If Mount is the only midfield addition we make then yes we will struggle and if we struggle you know who pays the price first. To put us in such a position because we chose to keep McTominay over a £5m gap in valuations is gross mismanagement, we aren't getting as high a fee for him and we already know his limitations. If this is not a bluff then it's a daft decision to make with the level of squad building we still need to do.

Make fun of it if you want but it is these decisions that have constantly held us back from building an elite team. Blind loyalty to average and below average players who consistently let us down the moment a bit of pressure is applied.

That 30m was pretty much what’s he’s worth, should have made sure that deal got done, the manager has said he can go so that’s what should happen.

ETH won’t care whether we get 30 or 40m for him and I think it’s just a miscalculation on clubs part. Maybe West Ham come back with a better offer if they sell Paquetá but they maybe have better options at fee we are looking for.
 
According to Romano we’re waiting for the Fred and Donny moves to be finalised before moving for Amrabat. McTominay staying has zero influence in that deal happening.

Perhaps we could see a situation where McTominay moves later in the window once the Amrabat deal is done. Struggling to see where McTominay fits in with all this. It looks like Amrabat will be used in rotation with Casemiro, or even alongside him in some games. Mount and Eriksen will be rotated for their spot, with Bruno taking the more advanced role. Just not sure exactly where Scott fits in, or if he's further cover if one of Casemiro or Amrabat gets injured, or used to rotate alongside Mount and Eriksen.

This isn't even factoring in other youth prospects who also could be used in the rotation for midfield.

I'm wondering if we're hedging our bets and keeping Scott for now on the of course a deal for Amrabat can't be sorted out in time.
 
It's speculation- a forum's not a court of law. There's circumstantial evidence, so people needn't get defensive. It's not like I don't appreciate what SAF did for the club, clearly. You just have to at least hesitate for a moment and ask why this player, in particular, has been protected so heavily above others.

Or hesitate and ask are you possibly getting that wrong?
 
So why the feck are we keeping McTominay then? He doesn't add good depth. He's far below the acceptable standard and has been ever since he broke through. We're not adding Amrabat if we don't sell McTominay.

Yes it is for depth, that is the exact reason. That's your opinion but clearly the manager feels he adds something good to the squad and won't consider selling unless it was a worthwhile bid. Add yes we will still get Amrabat for my money as we are losing at least 2 midfield players even if McT stays.
 
And when we inevitably run Casemiro into the ground right around February we need to remember the guy who made this atrocious call. This is disastrous and will set us back from building a truly competitive squad. Given what's happening elsewhere I think we have failed before the season has even started.

Who? ETH?
 
Don't believe that for a second. We're using the media to force WH's hand. They have the money now and they need midfielders. He won't be here on September 2nd.
 
I think we have made a big blunder here. We know what we are getting with him and its not much so we have turned down a handy sum for him, we won't likely sign another midfielder and we will suffer when Casemiro, who isnt getting any younger gets injured or is suspended, in a season where competition is likely going to be stiffer than ever. I hope we won't live to regret this.

Yeah a massive blunder and starting to look like we are undoing the good work this window
 
McTominay's height is important whether we like it or not. We don't want to be a team of midgets.
 
So why the feck are we keeping McTominay then? He doesn't add good depth. He's far below the acceptable standard and has been ever since he broke through. We're not adding Amrabat if we don't sell McTominay.

Apparently we are waiting to offload Fred and Donny before going after Amrabat.
 
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