No we don't, there are many players to sell; Henderson, Fred, Donny, Bailly, these could cover Amrabat and maybe Lavia.
Scott McTominay | Transfer discussion not performance discussion
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Well he is getting interest from clubs and fees offered to us which we could only dream to get for the likes of Fred, Martial and VdB combined (players most United fans rate more highly than McT).
He is a decent squad option to have (plus homegrown, ok wages, still young, mostly available) and if we don’t get around 40 mil for him then I am happy to keep him.
Assuming Fred and Donny are leaving, I can understand the club wanting to keep Scott as we might be short if all 3 players leave.
Amrabat will probably come whether Scott is sold or not.
Amrabat will probably come whether Scott is sold or not.
They definitely wouldn't cover Lavia. McTominay sale could allow us to actually get those two and maybe a luxury player in another position.
Amrabat isn't a McTominay replacement. He's the replacement for Fred and/or VDB.
Exactly, I’m not even having us finishing top four currently. Our midfield is like a sieve and we are an injury or two away from having to play Maguire and McTominay regularly again. If we had money to burn and were already closing deals for the likes of Amrabat I could understand us holding out for more BUT we need money now to improve the squad, so surely we can’t afford to turn it down when the new season is days from starting.
No one rates any of those players anymore except maybe Fred.
He wasn't a decent squad option last season, the manager barely played him after the first month of the season.
True, Fred has been told he's not getting offered a new contract apparently, so we either get 10-15m for him now or we get zip
No point in holding on to an asset that doesn't fit in the team and is coveted by other club though. Just sort of stupid. We all know Scott won't play in this side much this year if we hang on to him
Not true. He is Casemiro‘s back up so will mostly only play when Case is subbed off, suspended, injured or needs a rest. Plus McT himself was injured for periods last season and missed around 10 league games. Despite this and especially for a rotation player he got enough minutes in all 4 competitions last season.
Tbf 30m is a bit cheap for McT imo. He's HG, 26 yo, can play multiple positions quite decently, have good physical attributes and aggressive which is a must in the PL and also very good attitude. Clearly not good enough for United though and I don't think anyone here rate him highly but I agree he should worth at least 40m.
Actually, its been reported the 2 Saudi clubs are happy to pay the asking price (one of which want both Fred and Bailly); Galatasary have to come up if they want him and Fulham are still interested.
As for DVB he's been in discussions with Sociedad for a while and 15-20m is what I've read has been talked about, or loan with obligation at 20m
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Rightly so
This combined bid of £60m proves that posters are clueless around the financial position of clubs in general when many were saying West Ham couldn’t afford to pay x amount and Rice money can’t be spent due to financial fair play etc etc.
A RB would be literally amazing.
Because we often sell players well below their market value. This is a chance to fix that. McTominey's wages aren't over the top so holding out for a higher fee is the right call.
Rejecting the Mctominay bid and asking 40-45m for him is making me nervous than it should.
I literally linked to his minutes last season and when he was fit he basically played in almost every game.
Multiple things can be true. Desperation causes one to do things.
We aren’t getting a new RB without selling one of AWB or Dalot. If we sign anyone other than a midfielder i think it would be a back up striker on the cheap.
Don’t see it myself, when they are also buying Alvarez for £35m and all of a sudden they have £100m transfer budget ‘out of nowhere’
McTominay is casemiro's backup in the squad, amrabat would take that role. Mount has replaced Fred already, but took eriksens starting role. Van de Beek never had a role.
Don't worry mate. It's not that hard to sell McT imo. He'd be decent to good to most mid table sides in the PL and he's on low wages as well.Rejecting the Mctominay bid and asking 40-45m for him is making me nervous than it should.
If we ask 10m more for Maguire I'd call it crazy but for McT it's reasonable imo. That 10m won't piss WH off and the worst scenario is we'll accept the 30m bid.
He got most of his minutes in that early part of the season. I'm not even sure if his minutes after that amount to more than 5 full games in total. Amrabat is coming as Casemiro's backup which makes McTominay even more of a surplus to requirement than he already is.
It's not out of nowhere, they haven't spent the Rice money.
Cheap backup strikers don't exist. We can move one of those two on in January, will take time for a new RB to settle anyway.
Rejecting the Mctominay bid and asking 40-45m for him is making me nervous than it should.
Decent player who can play CM and CB and is a proven international. I think £40m is reasonable considering Southampton are asking £50m for Lavia.
Point being is that they suddenly have £100m to spend when some were saying they couldn’t even afford to pay one of McT or Maguire due to FFP
Southampton are holding out for the same for JWP, they know McTomminay is cheap by comparison.Rejecting the Mctominay bid and asking 40-45m for him is making me nervous than it should.
Exactly. We want Amrabat regardless of Mctominay staying or going.
And have just sold Scamacca.
All the noise has been Fred and VDB out then Amrabat in and that we want to keep McTominay. Work that out.
Sorry completely disagree. Amrabat and todibo suit Ten Hag far better yes and are very smart signings if we make them to balance the squad, for sure. But our squad is in a very good shape currently and not having us top 4 currently is ridiculous, laughable, whatever you want to call it given that we were 3rd last season despite the worst fixture congestion in Europe which will become far better next season, and we've upgraded our 3 biggest starting 11 issues.
Amrabat and Todibo are tightening up the squad balance for long term transitions and proper injury cover, but it's not a bad situation to start in.
My point was that the focus should always be a straight question of does this piece of business make sense for the manager and our squad balance, not overloading positions or ignoring others, does it improve us in the 1-3 year mark and what will our situation be at the 3 year point (like will we need a huge transition). This is simply a piece of business that is a resounding yes in every department. So it'll be annoying if we feck it up. But it won't hurt our season much.
I think so
We rejected 30 mil?! Blimey.
Well Connor Gallagher is being quoted 40-44m£
Transfer funding. Mainoo injury.
In terms of "roles", McTominay last season had casemiro's backup role. Eriksen was a starter, Fred was his backup.
Now Fred is soon to be gone, Eriksen is backup for mount/Bruno, mainoo is promoted, and amrabat would come in as casemiro backup or competition to partner. If McTominay stays, he'll likely stay til January only dependent on injury to mainoo but will hardly play, just some subs here and there to provide physicality. But his role is going to be replaced.
£30m about right for Maguire but they can get fecked looking to pay the same for McT. I'd hold out with McT esepcially if the interest from Newcastle is genuine.
He seems like a really good fit for replacing Rice to me, also Premiership proven, really good age, won't want crazy wages, Scottish, etc, he's just about perfect for them.
Not sure about Maguire, but reckon they'll be back for Mctominay.
Not sure about Maguire, but reckon they'll be back for Mctominay.
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