Scott McTominay | Transfer discussion not performance discussion
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and? Doesnt mean they value him for how we want to play, just that he has value in the market as a HG player who is in their prime years. Maguire for 30 shows he has value in the market, just not for us. No shame in different clubs playing different ways.
Expecting 35m from Fred and DVB seems optimistic.
Come on Murtough. You can get an extra 5-10m in add-ons.
But thats about as good an offer as we will get. Ever.
Offloading maguire would be worth the lowered valuation on McT.
amrabat or Lavia
A centre back (young, quality one to fight with varane for position).
or just Chuck the whole lot in and get Caicedo.
or kane. Unlikely but could give it a go.
£40 mil for Magure and £20 Mil for McTominay is a fair price for both it's not a lowered price for McTominay. McTominday will be 27 in December and he's in his prime now. He's technically awful, has a limited range of passing, is average in the air, and is pretty poor defensively. He's lucky to even be a PL footballer. I'm thankful that Moyes is old fashioned enough to rate him.
30m each for him and Maguire is about as good as we are going to get, I understand might haggle a bit but that should be them both out the door.
ETH doesn’t want either of them, hardly starts them so get the deal done and bring in players he does want. Both are good fit for West Ham and I doubt any other team in the league would offer as much as 30m for either of them.
ETH doesn’t want either of them, hardly starts them so get the deal done and bring in players he does want. Both are good fit for West Ham and I doubt any other team in the league would offer as much as 30m for either of them.
I think the club would take that offer in an instance. But the players? The agents? It's so much going on when it comes to transfers. Mctominay has Murdock Sports Group, same as Evans. If we gave Evans a contract, maybe they could help us sell Scott.
Regarding Maguire I think it's down to pride and wages. Leaving with the tale between his legs may be tough.
Regarding Maguire I think it's down to pride and wages. Leaving with the tale between his legs may be tough.
True...which is why I mention to shake in the middle for 35.
Maguire is nowhere near as bad as he is currently showing, I would suggest he needs a run of 10 games back-to-back and a change of scenery.
For his own mental health I hope he can accept a move without feeling it is a failure.
West ham is a top club in England. He will be their star defender with a manager who will use him right in the team. Its a no brainer move. The only issue you are right is massive wages drop and he probably has no motivation as is certain to play for england even if he doesnt play for his club often.
A £60m double bid definitely gives us something to think about. I suspect the club will try to squeeze them for a bit more but we should be careful because we don't want a deal breaking down entirely when West Ham might be the only viable buyers.
On the other hand Maguire will be a guaranteed starter for them and possibly captain. Here he's just a bench option. It'll surely be tempting if he cares, about playing regularly
Okay. I'll also take Whitwell and other journalists saying McTominay is not a must-sell.
Besides Fred's style of play is more likely to rapidly decline soon. He's likely to get a longer contract at a lower-level club. We'd not do more than a rolling contract for him.
70-75m I reckon
You realise we don't have to accept both offers and can just accept Maguire's and hold out on McTominay?
Maguire leaving is much more likely IMO.
The million dollar question...
Could probably bump the fees for both of them up a bit higher but I'd honestly just take it in case they pull out. We could use the money to invest more wisely.
I'd take 60m for the pair. 40m for McT and 20 for Maguire is a reasonable valuation. Best of luck to both the players and hope they go on to have a more successful career.
I agree; 65m and it'll be done?
I would be sad to see McTominay go. I honestly think under ETH and not playing next to Fred, he could kick on. I think circumstances at United may has stunted his development. And maybe now he is just not a fit for a ETH team,
From a technical perspective, i don't see him being that far away from being at the talent level of Declan Rice.
From a technical perspective, i don't see him being that far away from being at the talent level of Declan Rice.
Murtough, for fecks sake please accept this. This is the bailout we needed!
We can get Amrabat and a younger CB as replacements, without factoring in the Fred/VDB departures.
We can get Amrabat and a younger CB as replacements, without factoring in the Fred/VDB departures.
20m would be fair if you ask me, but I also rate McTominay as a potential 40-60m player if played and developed correct, so if we get 60 in total for both, I’d be happy
if we pull off the signings we already have + Amrabat and a CB, get rid of Maquire, McT, Fred and DVB I swear we have been using some black magic deal with devil kind of bizniz, I couldn't pull this off cheating on FM
I agree here. I think he’s somewhat similar to Rice when played consistently and with confidence. He’s a little bit more attacking (and better at it) however.
It’s a good buy for West Ham. You have Soucek next to him and it could be a quite good and physical duo.
Madness. McTominay is a midtable player who has proven he isn't of the required standard to play for United time and again.
Of the two, Fred is actually the one who has demonstrated the higher level. There's no consistency in that level and he's just as likely to drop a terrible performance as he is a good one, but that's still more than what McTominay has shown in a United shirt. He'll do fine for West Ham though because there won't really be any demands placed on him there beyond staying in the division.
I’m happy if United get 3,5 million total for them both…
As if 3-4 years of stinking up the midfield - consistently hiding from a pass, dogshit passing, zero defensive awareness wasn't enough that people are now gonna miss McTominay.
Based on the quoted figures, I think it will be around 30m combined for them.
KANE.
You have to be joking.
Reasonable point of view; I think he is better than Rice personally
So there’s a team out there willing to pay at least £60M for the pair, eh lads? Maybe we’ll try to squeeze a few more out too. Definitely not £55M because that’s a bad deal.
If we don't accept this kind of money for McT and Maguire we are seriously mental. Negotiate an add on or two but in principle this has to be agreed. I get on another day we may get £35-£40 for Scott on his own so we're maybe £5-£10million shy of what we'd like ideally but this is too good to be true.
Agree completely but we'd need another midfielder or Hannibal would need a chance.
You see this nonsense trotted out time and again, zero grasp on reality.
Comparing with Declan Rice might be a stretch
But in an attacking team, MCT next to a solid DM would work well.
I think he will have same issues as he has now when he moves to WHU just because of defensive setup in WHU
Take it ffs.
Amrabat + CB would be great end to the window.
Amrabat + CB would be great end to the window.
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