Lavia is coming off a decent season for a team that just got relegated. He has potential but there's just as much chance that he regresses at Liverpool than that he kicks on. He's far from a sure thing.How in god's name is he a bargain compared to those two? Lavia is one of the brightest DM prospects around with huge potential and JWP (who won't be moved) at least has excellent technicality and a set piece calling card. I think McT's value is around 30-40m probably, but it's hardly a bargain at that price.
How in god's name is he a bargain compared to those two? Lavia is one of the brightest DM prospects around with huge potential and JWP (who won't be moved) at least has excellent technicality and a set piece calling card. I think McT's value is around 30-40m probably, but it's hardly a bargain at that price.
Lavia is coming off a decent season for a team that just got relegated. He has potential but there's just as much chance that he regresses at Liverpool than that he kicks on. He's far from a sure thing.
JWP is not excellent technically, he's just good like Mctominay. He's got better set pieces yeah...
I wouldn't give us the benefit of the doubt. 'New' regime but still the same questionable judgement regarding player value, particularly when it comes to outgoings [edit: whatever The Mail or similar rags are saying - I'd stake on McT, in particular, now still being here after the window closes. More less optimistic even than a day ago now proper offers have been received]. Just one reason why it's a shame a new owner wasn't able to take over in the summer and install DOF to fully modernize the squad in terms of technical profiles, even if it meant taking an ostensible hit on one or two players, and to rid us of the oafs and bluffers. Players like this wouldn't be retained at City, and not just because money matters much less to them - they wouldn't even stay around at Brighton either, given the direction they're heading in...That's all good, providing West Ham come back with improved offers. If they go elsewhere it will look like a huge blunder. For now I give us the benefit of the doubt and assume we must be confident that West Ham are desperate and will pay up.
JWP is average at pretty much everything except his set pieces. Mctominay gets around more, tackles better, and can finish when in the box. He's basically an upgraded more energetic version of Soucek for West Ham.
'Hardly featured'JWP's passing and on ball capabilities are higher than McT even if he's not nearly the same player physically. McTominay is coming off a season where he hardly featured and you seem to think he's a bargain at 40m when he's largely never shown what his correct position is in a good side. Maybe if this was us coming off the 20/21 season you'd have a point but as of now there's only one suitor looking to pay anywhere close to that amount which implies he's not a "bargain" at all.
Lavia? Amrabat? Both?
If we sell Mctominay, Fred and VdB - we'll need to bring at least two, no?
No, one will do. Mount has already replaced Fred. Just need Lavia/Amrabat. Mainoo takes the other spot.If we sell Mctominay, Fred and VdB - we'll need to bring at least two, no?
There's a big difference between playing hardball for a hot commodity you're trying to sell, as opposed to rejecting quite fair offers for two players that should never see the pitch for your squad especially with one on huge wages. It's not like we are rejecting scraps, a combined 60m for essentially deadwood when we can replace those two with better options for the same price is good business.
No, we have Mainoo and we already signed Mount
Mount
Eriksen
Bruno
Casemiro
Amrabat (?)
Mainoo
for three midfield positions? That seems light to me
Hmm possibly, but we also have squad options after those like Mejbri and Gore. Thats 2 players per position plus youngsters, guess it depends what happens with Mejbri
There’s no way Mctominay doesn’t get replaced if he gets sold.Mount
Eriksen
Bruno
Casemiro
Amrabat (?)
Mainoo
for three midfield positions? That seems light to me
There’s no way Mctominay doesn’t get replaced if he gets sold.
Amrabat replaces McTominay, Mount replaces Fred, Mainoo replaces vdB (who never played anyway). No issues here.There’s no way Mctominay doesn’t get replaced if he gets sold.
Injuries happen all the time as shown by Mainoo and McTominay both being injured currently. There will be enough minutes for Mainoo and if anything things can be reassessed in January.It wouldn't be 7 serious options though. It would be 6 senior midfielders + 1 kid who will be lucky to make 5 appearances when he was 6 senior midfielders in front of him in the pecking order.
That's fine if we don't think Mainoo's ready, but we can't go into next season thinking Mainoo's getting games when he has 6 senior players in front of him.
Ole went into the season with Cavani, Ronaldo, Martial, Rashford, Sancho, Greenwood, Lingard as attacking options, which was 7 senior players for 3 spots, which is what I was referring to. Cavani and Lingard ended up sulking the place out because they obviously couldn't get on the pitch.
Pep tends to have just 5 senior midfielders and 5 senior attacking players for 3 positions also.
Elsewhere ? Name the options please ? Unless they are willing to take a punt, there isn't anyone for them to buy who is as experienced as these two.That's all good, providing West Ham come back with improved offers. If they go elsewhere it will look like a huge blunder. For now I give us the benefit of the doubt and assume we must be confident that West Ham are desperate and will pay up.
I'm not a scout. I can't believe there isn't another centre back or midfielder anywhere in world football that they could go for.Elsewhere ? Name the options please ? Unless they are willing to take a punt, there isn't anyone for them to buy who is as experienced as these two.
65- 70m will do I guess. Two players who will tremendously improve West Ham.
Elsewhere ? Name the options please ? Unless they are willing to take a punt, there isn't anyone for them to buy who is as experienced as these two.
65- 70m will do I guess. Two players who will tremendously improve West Ham.
I don't get how anyone would believe he rates McTominay! He rarely used him in the second half of the season with Fred being ahead of him. Once we get a decent fee Scott will go.I think ETH would much rather lose Fred, Donny and Maguire before letting McTom leave.
I wouldn't be surprised if his squad place is taken by Mainoo promotion. Plus we did sign Mount.
I think getting in another forward will be prioritised over getting in another midfielder
We have to add Hannibal there and really play him.Mount
Eriksen
Bruno
Casemiro
Amrabat (?)
Mainoo
for three midfield positions? That seems light to me
We have to add Hannibal there and really play him.
Elsewhere ? Name the options please ? Unless they are willing to take a punt, there isn't anyone for them to buy who is as experienced as these two.
65- 70m will do I guess. Two players who will tremendously improve West Ham.
We don't need as experienced a CB as Maguire. We have a great RCB who is aging and injury prone in Varane, signing a guy in his early 20s to back him up this year and replace him in the long term is very sensible.
And for DM, I do genuinely think a boring DM who reads danger positionally better than McTominay and can pass the ball would be an upgrade. As a #8 on the counter, McTominay will probably do well for West Ham, but 30M should comfortably buy an upgrade as a #6.
If we let so many go (McFred + VDB), we have to get two in. One from transfer market and the other promoted from youth. I have already counted Mainoo as new addition. So, it has to be Hannibal. There are too many games. Just don’t know if ETH thinks it a real option or he prefers another temporary, stopgap signing. If he thinks Hannibal is an option, he will surely play him a lot, probably similar amount of playing time for Malacia last season?Will he get enough opportunity?
If we let so many go (McFred + VDB), we have to get two in. One from transfer market and the other promoted from youth. I have already counted Mainoo as new addition. So, it has to be Hannibal. There are too many games. Just don’t know if ETH thinks it a real option or he prefers another temporary, stopgap signing. If he thinks Hannibal is an option, he will surely play him a lot, probably similar amount of playing time for Malacia last season?
Yeah, it sounds unbelievable considering our past.Be staggered if we bought 3 midfielders in one window but happy to be proved wrong
Yeah, it sounds unbelievable considering our past.
