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Scott McTominay | Transfer discussion not performance discussion
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Southampton want 50m for Lavia and 45 for Ward Prowse.
Mctominay at 40 is a bargain when you look at that. Remember Newcastle are also interested in Mcsauce.
Mctominay at 40 is a bargain when you look at that. Remember Newcastle are also interested in Mcsauce.
He was rubbish as Casemiro’s backup and wasn’t even trusted to start Europa games. ETH was even picking DVB ahead of him at times in the league before injury ended his season.
It’s been painfully obvious for years he isn’t good enough, I hope we get bit more out of West Ham but would be idiotic to keep him for another season of mediocrity before offloading him for less next summer. Manager doesn’t want him, Fred or DVB so get rid of all 3 if we can.
It’s been painfully obvious for years he isn’t good enough, I hope we get bit more out of West Ham but would be idiotic to keep him for another season of mediocrity before offloading him for less next summer. Manager doesn’t want him, Fred or DVB so get rid of all 3 if we can.
£70m for both would be a good deal for West Ham.
Worth more than 30, we should push for 45, see how high they go. Reality is McTominay is experienced and will do well in a mid table PL side for sure. We should get market value for his calibre.
Again wrong. Why don’t you just check his minutes as you keep repeating this. I literally said he is Casemiro‘s back up so not a starter. In the middle of the league campaign/season he also missed games due to injury. Still AFTER the initial 2 months period in all competitions he still played 80+ minutes 7 times (6 times the full 90 minutes, 1 x 82 minutes), additionally 3 times 45+ minutes and additionally 9 times 20 to 35 minutes (including 20 minutes in the league cup final). In the remaining games he only played a few minutes each. So all in all he was seen a valuable squad option by ETH.
Would take 70m for both. We can make it sound like 40m for Scott and 30m for Harry Maguire. That means 5m less for what we wanted for each. Personally i feel its a great deal for both West Ham and United if we can agree that.
He got a lot of token appearances here and there but hardly any meaningful game time except for 3 starts after the 2nd Casemiro red card. Also, his fitness record isn't very good. He misses his fair share of games almost every season, he isn't actually a reliable squad player in that regard.
Newcastle and Roma are interested in him, apparently Brighton too so West Ham will have to pay up if they want him
It wouldn't be 7 serious options though. It would be 6 senior midfielders + 1 kid who will be lucky to make 5 appearances when he was 6 senior midfielders in front of him in the pecking order.
That's fine if we don't think Mainoo's ready, but we can't go into next season thinking Mainoo's getting games when he has 6 senior players in front of him.
Ole went into the season with Cavani, Ronaldo, Martial, Rashford, Sancho, Greenwood, Lingard as attacking options, which was 7 senior players for 3 spots, which is what I was referring to. Cavani and Lingard ended up sulking the place out because they obviously couldn't get on the pitch.
Pep tends to have just 5 senior midfielders and 5 senior attacking players for 3 positions also.
30 Mio for him would be more than fair, not taking the money to reinvest and let him sit on the bench for 90% of the time is stupid.
Well I think he’ll make the most funds. That basically pays for Amrabat if we sell him.
I desperately hope we accept this. He’s miles off it, and we’ll never see this sort of money for him again.
Fred and DVB will pay for Amrabat. We have no need to sell Mctominay unless he wants to go or the money is high enough for us to bring in a better player.
Lavia is 19 and has room for growth, Ward Prowse is a better player than McTominay. Newcastle won’t go near McTominay if they have any sense, Bruno and Tonali are both on a different planet.
He will need replacing so we should absolutely ask for more money. Especially from a club who just sold a player for 105m
We better know what we're doing rejecting these Mctominay and Maguire bids.
Their value will only plummet from here, as they'll be sat on our bench and getting older. Very good chance we'll be stuck with them until their contract run out if we don't cash in now, or we'll end up accepting an offer for fraction of this amount at some point further down the line which will beg the question why we didn't take the money and run.
Their value will only plummet from here, as they'll be sat on our bench and getting older. Very good chance we'll be stuck with them until their contract run out if we don't cash in now, or we'll end up accepting an offer for fraction of this amount at some point further down the line which will beg the question why we didn't take the money and run.
Depends what you need in your midfield.
It’ll be good craic on here when WH have bids accepted for them and they both turn it down.
We are banking on West Ham being desperate as they haven’t made a signing this window I think. If they don’t come back with an improved offer, we may end up looking silly, though with McTominay I’d still expect us to find a buyer by the end of this transfer window. Maguire I’m not sure.
I also doubt Southampton are getting what they want. Leicester got £40m for Maddison and he’s far better than either of them.
I'm a little annoyed we didn't get Rabiot now... would have been a solid replacement for free
We won't end up looking silly. People need to understand that there's room in the squad for Mctominay, he will play if we don't sell him, he's an academy product, won't kick up a fuss for sitting on the bench and we won't find a better 3rd/4th choice 8 for 30 mill, hence we will keep if we don't get our 40 million. People in here are seriously underrating Mctominay. I am not a big fan of Mctominay when he was our starter but now he's a 3rd/4th choice option he's very good and we won't find a 30 mill midfielder better than him that won't kick up a fuss sitting on the bench
To put it into perspective Arsenals equivalent is El Neny. City's is Kalvin Phillips. Madrids was Ceballos etc...
Maddison is a 10 not an 8 and is a dying position in modern football. Spurs is the only top 6 team that still uses a 10....
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Given the board is operating like a competitive one would do this summer, I expect them to know what they are doing.
Can you imagine this place if that happened?Magiure will go, mainly because he doesnt want to lose his england place. Mctominay is a tough call, hes 27, needs regular football and this might be the biggest contract he will get in whats left of his career.
We should respect their decisions I suppose
It’s funny to me how many are saying accept first offers. For years sides have offered little for our players as everyone knows we’re desperate to get rid of them. And everyone complains. Now we’re playing hard ball, trying to get the maximum like everyone does, and it’s crazy town!
So sell 2 players and bring in 1? Amrabat is probably better than all 3 of them so it doesn’t really matter which one we sell. If we sell 2 of the 3 plus Maguire then we should be looking at signing another CM aswell as a back up CB.
That's all good, providing West Ham come back with improved offers. If they go elsewhere it will look like a huge blunder. For now I give us the benefit of the doubt and assume we must be confident that West Ham are desperate and will pay up.
You're all saying we should hold for 70m because of the reports how much we value them, but when the season ended most would've taken 60m without the blink of an eye. And Maguire value is dropping with every game.
Maguire for 30m is OK for both parties (he's worth more than that for WH and less than that for us). Anything close to 30 is a great offer for McTominay.
Maguire for 30m is OK for both parties (he's worth more than that for WH and less than that for us). Anything close to 30 is a great offer for McTominay.
Well apparently both of those deals are in the advanced stage so those are the most likely deals to go through. I think ETH will probably prefer to keep Mctominay out of the 3.
No. It’s sell the two players we don’t want and bring in a player we do want. Fred and DVB are the players ETH doesn’t want regardless. Mctominay he’s happy to keep unless the bid gets high enough where he can be replaced. If I was a betting man I’d say that’s 35m plus add-ons so he can go and get Kudus.
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How in god's name is he a bargain compared to those two? Lavia is one of the brightest DM prospects around with huge potential and JWP (who won't be moved) at least has excellent technicality and a set piece calling card. I think McT's value is around 30-40m probably, but it's hardly a bargain at that price.
He’s stalling on agreeing personal terms with them.
There's a big difference between playing hardball for a hot commodity you're trying to sell, as opposed to rejecting quite fair offers for two players that should never see the pitch for your squad especially with one on huge wages. It's not like we are rejecting scraps, a combined 60m for essentially deadwood when we can replace those two with better options for the same price is good business.
£30m for Mctominay isn't a good deal when Mount went for £50m and Gallagher was quoted at similar. He's a very useful option to have, has had several great games against good teams.
If we view at as more like £40m for Scott and £20m for Maguire that's a better reflection of where those two players are currently.
That said we've spent about that on Mount and Hojlund each.. if either of them aren't very good then we haven't really made very good use of that £60m. But that's the gamble of the transfer market
If we view at as more like £40m for Scott and £20m for Maguire that's a better reflection of where those two players are currently.
That said we've spent about that on Mount and Hojlund each.. if either of them aren't very good then we haven't really made very good use of that £60m. But that's the gamble of the transfer market
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