Sorry but trusting an 18yo who has basically minuscule first-team appearances is ridiculous. There's a January transfer window too if he proves himself worthy while playing actual Premier League games. 7 players for 3 midfield spots is not overkill.Anything beyond 2 players per position is overkill, it's how we ended up with dressing room mutiny under Ole because so many players couldn't get game time.
Either Mainoo is a serious first team option or he isn't. If he's not, I agree we need another midfielder, but that must be done on the understanding Mainoo is barely getting a game all season. Mainoo got 2 appearances last year I believe and he'll do well to get more than 5 this year if we go into the season with 6 senior midfielders in front of him.
eriksen plays deep under eth. So the 4 are case/amrabat/mount/eriksen. 5th is now mainoo (so already struggling for game time once he comes back). Not including bruno who as i said has occasionally played deep midfield but really isnt his strong pointMy thinking is more due to the fact that we've got Casemiro and Amrabat as the 2 for the base and possibly Mainoo/Amrabat as options as more of a defensive 8 in the big games. If you are looking at our midfield options we have Eriksen/Bruno/Mount as our more attacking options and Casemiro/Mainoo/Amrabat as our more defensive options. I don't think Eriksen gets much game time this season as he looks like he's pretty much done at the top level. I'd much prefer we sign a replacement for Mctominay this season and slowly breed Mainoo in slowly to eventually replace Eriksen next season in terms of midfield numbers.
An example would be Casemiro getting injured or suspended and we have a big game coming up we'd be starting with Amarabt and Mainoo and one out of Bruno/Mount, I don't think that would be a good idea tbh.
I agree which is why another midfielder would be needed. When one of the 4 midfielders is an 18 year old who has 1 prem appearance it's a bit different to a 'video game where you can have all world class players'.
My point is I'm sure ETH would want to replace Mctominay whether it's a world class replacement are not we'll defo need another midfielder in to replace Mctominay.
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Crikey this is exactly what has been wrong with United for years. Do the deal but no, " Hey keep the old car, don't sell it, might come in handy " Time to clean the deck and these guys need to go. If we need back up then im sure ETH is one step ahead. I just don't trust any of the possible out goings anymore. A change is as a good as a holiday in my book.I like Mainoo but he is 18.
Get rid of Mctominay, Fred and DVB, get in Amrabat our midfield options would be:
Casemiro
Amrabat
Mainoo
Bruno
Mount
Eriksen
That's a bit light imo, we'd need to bring in another midfielder if we lose Mctominay as well, especially considering UCL football and Mainoo is 18.
Eriksen played deep last season, I don't think he plays deep this season especially with his legs gone.eriksen plays deep under eth. So the 4 are case/amrabat/mount/eriksen. 5th is now mainoo (so already struggling for game time once he comes back). Not including bruno who as i said has occasionally played deep midfield but really isnt his strong point
Well ETH disagrees it seems. He played in almost every game he was available for last season.People keep forgetting this. He’s nowhere near good enough for us and if Ten Hag is serious about raising the standards players like Scott need to go.
idk last year was kinda all hands on deck with eth being hamstrung with the squad and him giving players a chance to prove themselves. It looks like he is straightfoward with the players so far on who is in his plans and who isnt. Feel like mctominay is on the who isnt side of it.Well ETH disagrees it seems. He played in almost every game he was available for last season.
https://www.transfermarkt.com/scott...22&verein=&liga=&wettbewerb=&pos=&trainer_id=
Doesn’t mean much especially when your options are limited. Fred played quite a lot as well yet he’s leaving.Well ETH disagrees it seems. He played in almost every game he was available for last season.
https://www.transfermarkt.com/scott...22&verein=&liga=&wettbewerb=&pos=&trainer_id=
my guess is that EtH hopes that he can manage eriksen better this year and preserve what is left. Could be just the process of coming back to injury after carroll being a dumbass and trying to injure everyone in that game. Feel like eriksen should get the lower cup games/easier opponents/group stages if things are settled already. Throw in some instances where we are chasing the game and the other team is bunkered down.Eriksen played deep last season, I don't think he plays deep this season especially with his legs gone.
Nah it's not bad. When you consider that Bruno is a player who pretty much plays every game and doesn't need anything but bare minimum rotating, and then all of Bruno, Eriksen and mount can both play in either of the 2 positions, it's fine. And Sancho or amad in a pinch can easily play 10 too. Add amrabat and get rid of the 3 unwanted guys we have, and have Mainoo as the 6th and that's a perfect balanceSorry but trusting an 18yo who has basically minuscule first-team appearances is ridiculous. There's a January transfer window too if he proves himself worthy while playing actual Premier League games. 7 players for 3 midfield spots is not overkill.
Ole's dressing room issue was more sticking with players who weren't performing and the team was doing badly. There were no such issues in his previous seasons when we finished 3rd and then 2nd.
27 in December isn't exactly young.I get many of you don't like Scott, but don't sell players on what they are worth to you, you sell them for what they are worth to that team. Scott's worth at least £40M that West Ham offered for Gallagher and Scott's the better player and international starter. Also given that Scott is a decent backup and young, we don't need to sell him. So selling him less than his worth is just stupid business.
Isn't Amrabat supposedly 25-30 million? If so we may have enough for an up and coming CB too.We'd be mad not to take it. Neither are needed here and we could go and get Amrabat immediately
Fred's got 1 year left on his contract and he's 30. That's why he's leaving.Doesn’t mean much especially when your options are limited. Fred played quite a lot as well yet he’s leaving.
Our 40-45m price for McTominay suggests that the club values him.idk last year was kinda all hands on deck with eth being hamstrung with the squad and him giving players a chance to prove themselves. It looks like he is straightfoward with the players so far on who is in his plans and who isnt. Feel like mctominay is on the who isnt side of it.
Exactly. People are letting their hatred of the player blind them. The club isn't desperate for him to leave and West Ham has offered more for another midfielder who's a worse player than him. Of course, won't sell for cheap.I get many of you don't like Scott, but don't sell players on what they are worth to you, you sell them for what they are worth to that team. Scott's worth at least £40M that West Ham offered for Gallagher and Scott's the better player and international starter. Also given that Scott is a decent backup and young, we don't need to sell him. So selling him less than his worth is just stupid business.
SureNah it's not bad. When you consider that Bruno is a player who pretty much plays every game and doesn't need anything but bare minimum rotating, and then all of Bruno, Eriksen and mount can both play in either of the 2 positions, it's fine. And Sancho or amad in a pinch can easily play 10 too. Add amrabat and get rid of the 3 unwanted guys we have, and have Mainoo as the 6th and that's a perfect balance
I get many of you don't like Scott, but don't sell players on what they are worth to you, you sell them for what they are worth to that team. Scott's worth at least £40M that West Ham offered for Gallagher and Scott's the better player and international starter. Also given that Scott is a decent backup and young, we don't need to sell him. So selling him less than his worth is just stupid business.
That's a monetary value based on what we think he's worth in the current market given his age, experience and wage. It's not a reflection of his value to Ten Hag. If he was that important to the squad we wouldn't sell him at all as we're not desperate for moneyOur 40-45m price for McTominay suggests that the club values him.
You wouldn't sell a squad player if someone offers market value for them or more than that? Regardless of how useful they are. Starters are different.That's a monetary value based on what we think he's worth in the current market given his age, experience and wage. It's not a reflection of his value to Ten Hag. If he was that important to the squad we wouldn't sell him at all as we're not desperate for money
60mil for maguire and mctom.
20mil Fred
15mil beek
a further 95mil to invest into our squad.
Fred's got 1 year left on his contract and he's 30. That's why he's leaving.
I think you're going to be disappointed.
Personally I think £40 million for each of them is a very reasonable valuation. I know its the norm on the cafe to shit all over the pair, but I can see they would offer a lot to many clubs.
So the reported £30 million each is a little on the low side, but meet in the middle and shake on £70 million...convert it to euros (that's what everyone does when United buy a player) 81.125 million euros happy days.
Lavia? Amrabat? Both?60mil for maguire and mctom.
20mil Fred
15mil beek
a further 95mil to invest into our squad.
