Exactly this. We might be able to rob someone of nearly 50M.We should sell him in January while his stock is high
Exactly this. We might be able to rob someone of nearly 50M.We should sell him in January while his stock is high
Exactly this. We might be able to rob someone of nearly 50M.
It wouldn't even be a robbery. To teams who have no interest in controlling games, and just need a clogger to put himself about a little bit and be a threat from set pieces and knockdowns from the big lad up front, like West Ham or Everton, he's worth every penny of that.
He could probably play that soucek role that West Ham were playing pretty well.It wouldn't even be a robbery. To teams who have no interest in controlling games, and just need a clogger to put himself about a little bit and be a threat from set pieces and knockdowns from the big lad up front, like West Ham or Everton, he's worth every penny of that.
No one is paying 50m for him, 30-35 is the limit. He wouldn’t get in West Ham’s team and no team in the bottom half is paying 50m for a 27 year old who is so inconsistent.
He absolutely would. They've basically been playing Soucek as poundland McTominay this season anyway. He's Moyes or Dyche's dream of a player to stick behind the striker.
Of course it's a joke that he's that for us too.
Part of it comes from gimping Bruno in this weird no.8 role where he does more out of possession and in knitting play than McTominay. I have my fair share of complaints about the guy but he’s still our best creative outlet and moving him further from goal doesn’t help.
I’ll never get the line of argument that just because EtH wants the 2nd 8 to make late runs into the box to score somehow absolves whoever play that position from shit passes and nonexistent defensive work. Scholes scored his fair share from the same situation, or from hanging at the edge of the box, didn’t stop him from running a game.
Oh I agree to a degree. McTominay is not good enough and we need another option. Problem is he fkd us already with his signings. We are at a point that we cant afford to loose goal scorers even at the detriment of other parts of our play. Sure put Mainoo and Amrabat there with Bruno as a 10. Sounds good on paper but thats never been tried, plus one is 18, plus both won't score or create chances plus that leaves a strike force with what 4 goals between them? We have a worse scoring record than everyone bar a few of the bottom teams. Same reason why he plays Martial and an underperforming Rashford. Yes they havn't scored many and they cant run but they have proved they can score goals in the Prem. We need goals desperately!Play Mainoo and Amrabat with Bruno/McT as no 10
He's not a midfielder, I don't know what he is but not a midfielder. I've never seen a midfielder so little involved in possession. Him playing leaves a huge gap open on midfield, he's a definite liability to play, doesn't matter how many goals he scores he should be playing on midfield.
Just the idea of someone being a "poundland McTominay". Yuck.poundland McTominay
He’s scored a couple of goals twice that’s all. Not withstanding all the games over the last 4 years when he’s been an utter passenger like today. Quite astonishing how someone so poor can have played over 200 games for Manchester United. It’s embarrassing frankly. And one thing his fan boys never seem to be able to answer, if he’s so good, such a goal threat etc, how come when he was apparently up for sale in the summer was there literally zero interest apart from one half hearted bid from that dinosaur Moyes? If he’s so good then why weren’t other clubs queuing up to sign him?Amazing, the guy has saved eth a few times this season and yet he is one of the players first in the firing line of getting criticised and demanding he is to be sold whilst weghorst mk2 in hojlund gets off lightly from our fanbase despite being a huge waste of 75 million.
Him and the likes of Maguire are not the main issue , it's all the money eth has wasted on flops that means we have gone back to relying on them to dig us out of a hole.
He’s not a goal scorer though. Yes he’s scored a couple of goals in 2 games this season. How many goals in the Premiership did he get in the whole of last season? And the season before and the season before that?Oh I agree to a degree. McTominay is not good enough and we need another option. Problem is he fkd us already with his signings. We are at a point that we cant afford to loose goal scorers even at the detriment of other parts of our play. Sure put Mainoo and Amrabat there with Bruno as a 10. Sounds good on paper but thats never been tried, plus one is 18, plus both won't score or create chances plus that leaves a strike force with what 4 goals between them? We have a worse scoring record than everyone bar a few of the bottom teams. Same reason why he plays Martial and an underperforming Rashford. Yes they havn't scored many and they cant run but they have proved they can score goals in the Prem. We need goals desperately!
Mediocre, but far from the worst.So, what’s your opinion about today then? Curious
Marouane McTominay.
Perfect analogy I would say. It doesn’t benefit our general play at all having him in the starting XI. We rely heavily on our wingers to create and our threat from central areas are non existant since we only got Bruno there who can’t dribble in tight spaces.Mctominay scoring a few goals is the same as hitting the crack pipe feeling good. Sure, you feel blissful for a few hours but when the high wears off you realize you’re standing butt naked at a traffic junction eating rats out of a trash can.
The main issue is somewhere in Florida right now.Amazing, the guy has saved eth a few times this season and yet he is one of the players first in the firing line of getting criticised and demanding he is to be sold whilst weghorst mk2 in hojlund gets off lightly from our fanbase despite being a huge waste of 75 million.
Him and the likes of Maguire are not the main issue , it's all the money eth has wasted on flops that means we have gone back to relying on them to dig us out of a hole.
That might be true but to put anybody on the pitch who ever managed to score a goal by simultaneously fecking the team surely isn't the way forward. Theoretically Amrabat could sit while Mainoo gives us a facilitator. He is also useful at defending next to Amrabat. Just as Amrabat is more than capable to pass a little more fancier. With those two, maybe we wouldn't be as open in the middle, therefor easier to counter, therefor more able to sustain periods of pressure. And generate chances like this. I don't know if that will work but I guess drawing games 0-0 because we cant score is better than losing to BOU because we neither can't score nor defend.Oh I agree to a degree. McTominay is not good enough and we need another option. Problem is he fkd us already with his signings. We are at a point that we cant afford to loose goal scorers even at the detriment of other parts of our play. Sure put Mainoo and Amrabat there with Bruno as a 10. Sounds good on paper but thats never been tried, plus one is 18, plus both won't score or create chances plus that leaves a strike force with what 4 goals between them? We have a worse scoring record than everyone bar a few of the bottom teams. Same reason why he plays Martial and an underperforming Rashford. Yes they havn't scored many and they cant run but they have proved they can score goals in the Prem. We need goals desperately!
How is he a box-to-box midfielder? If anything he is a -to-box -fielder. He isn't adding anything to buildup (surely down to instructions at the moment but lets not act as if he would add anything if those instructions were different), he isn't adding anything in defense apart from his height with headers. And in attack he was good lately but won't have it easy if teams are stacked in the box and prepared for him.He is a box to box midfielder. But ETH must setup a more direct tactic to maximize him. Mctominay won't suit possession, short passing football. That way you'll expose him.
We should sell him in January while his stock is high
He didn't have a good game today. How he stayed on for the whole 90 minutes is beyond me. The first goal I don't understand. Why just stick your leg out instead of using your body to get in front of Cook and cover the ball? His misplaced passes cost us today.
Fellaini was a better footballer. And much stronger, too.
Indeed. What I said as soon as he joined was that his approach to McTominay would determine my own opinion of him as a coach. People have to understand that I was so excited to get a coach from a great Ajax side that played the game based on Ajax principles. However, confirmation of what we were getting would have been drawn by what he did with Scott. Simply put, my view was that he couldn’t possibly be the coach I think/want him to be and see Mctominay as a viable midfield option.
I remember Ole joined as only an interim coach and the first thing he did was put an end to this Fellaini nonsense. He was sold within weeks. Ole is a United man, and you could tell that he and the others had been watching from the outside and thinking Fellaini was never a United midfielder. I expected the same from Ten Hag. As it is, Scott has survived two summers, and has played plenty of games. Ten Hag is not the coach I thought he was. Mourinho and Ole playing Scott was within character for them. It isn’t for Johan Cruyff or those from that school. I knew quite early because of this that I’d been miss sold a dream, and he has ultimately come out to confirm that in recent interviews about his football. I get annoyed when I keep reading things about ‘Ten Hag’s football’ on here. People have decided what Ten Hag’s football is, and for some reason, it seems to be something that does not look like Ten Hag’s football. So they will say things like AWB or Varane don’t suit ‘his football’, and there is no evidence of his football being what they claim it to be at all.
Until we can shed this historic tripe about players just covering grass and showing heart, we will never move forward.And starting Scott in centre midfield in some sort of hero ball hope he can grab a goal, next to another midfielder who deploys a similar approach means we will not control football matches.