KjaAnd
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He’s good at one thing: getting in the box and scoring. He’s poor at almost everything else which should disqualify him from ever starting for us.
Amrabat had nearly the same amount of passes and touches as McTominay and played 80mins less. Don't tell me that any average midfielder doesn't make us better than playing McTominay
Is he? The most goals he's ever scored is 4 in the league. Hardly Frank Lampard levels.He’s good at one thing: getting in the box and scoring. He’s poor at almost everything else which should disqualify him from ever starting for us.
He scored some goals, important ones mind you, which now means he is starting every single game, despite the fact he is an abysmal midfielder. You are never controlling a game with him and Bruno Fernandes on the pitch together. Somehow this manager fails to realise this.
First name on the team sheet the past couple of months… if that doesn’t say everything about our current plight then I’m not sure what else would?
I disagree to be honest. I think if we were a top team he'd be a good player in lesser games, cups etc and he'd be coming on in games where we're piling on the pressure Be desperate for a goal.
As it stands we're so poor that we can't afford any drop in quality as even our high quality players don't perform
Fred was always a far better midfielder than McTominay, despite being the one who was more played out of position throughout the majority of their time together. He got on the ball and passed it about 40% more (with many games where he was double or even triple), passed it forwards far more often, had a higher successful pass percentage despite being the much more aggressive passer, won the ball back more often, and basically was comfortably better at every main attribute you want in a midfielder. Pretending that this is a new myth just because he's gone is a joke.
Once Rangnick and later ETH came in and swapped their roles, the gap between them became even greater. Fred was effectively playing in the same role that McTominay is now, and he was still in the 71st percentile of passes completed last season when compared to midfielders in the top five league. Meanwhile McTominay is in the 6th percentile.
He is in the midfield but not played as a midfielder. The sole reason he is in the team is to manufacture a goal from somewhere, somehow. Which is baffling given that he has only scored 3 this season and two were in the last few minutes of a single game.
Exactly this. It’s a complete myth propagated by his fan boys that he’s some kind of goal threat. As I’ve pointed out plenty of times the most goals he has ever scored in a Premiership season is 4. Steve Bruce had a better record than that. He’s simply not good enough to play for Manchester United as a regular midfielder as that’s what he is. If he was actually a squad player who got the occasional 10 minutes now and then fine but he’s not as he starts regularly. Again when he was apparently up for sale in the summer there was literally zero interest in him apart from one half hearted bid by that dinosaur Moyes. Speaks volumes to his utter lack of quality.Is he? The most goals he's ever scored is 4 in the league. Hardly Frank Lampard levels.
The joke that Mourinho played has manifested into this
He is also good at defending corners. I don't see why fans don't see this. People on twitter are calling for a midfield of Mainoo, mount and fernades. Who is going to head the ball? How many corners did Newcastle have today? Who is going to defend them? We don't have Ibrahimovic anymore. We don't have Cavani anymore. We can't leave it all to Maguire, we need tall strong physical players. Yes we want them to be good on the ball, but a team of midgets doesn't cut it. Best team in the league City have Dias, Gardiol, Stones, Rodri and Haaland to head the ball away. Who do United have? Today maguire and McTominay. Shaw too short, martial too short ( and not arsed) , Rashford not interested. Are we relying on Mainoo? Casemiro badly missed.He’s good at one thing: getting in the box and scoring. He’s poor at almost everything else which should disqualify him from ever starting for us.
He is also good at defending corners. I don't see why fans don't see this. People on twitter are calling for a midfield of Mainoo, mount and fernades. Who is going to head the ball? How many corners did Newcastle have today? Who is going to defend them? We don't have Ibrahimovic anymore. We don't have Cavani anymore. We can't leave it all to Maguire, we need tall strong physical players. Yes we want them to be good on the ball, but a team of midgets doesn't cut it. Best team in the league City have Dias, Gardiol, Stones, Rodri and Haaland to head the ball away. Who do United have? Today maguire and McTominay. Shaw too short, martial too short ( and not arsed) , Rashford not interested. Are we relying on Mainoo? Casemiro badly missed.
Teams with great midfields don’t give away as many corners though. Having players like McTominay loses our control, and we concede more corners because of it.He is also good at defending corners. I don't see why fans don't see this. People on twitter are calling for a midfield of Mainoo, mount and fernades. Who is going to head the ball? How many corners did Newcastle have today? Who is going to defend them? We don't have Ibrahimovic anymore. We don't have Cavani anymore. We can't leave it all to Maguire, we need tall strong physical players. Yes we want them to be good on the ball, but a team of midgets doesn't cut it. Best team in the league City have Dias, Gardiol, Stones, Rodri and Haaland to head the ball away. Who do United have? Today maguire and McTominay. Shaw too short, martial too short ( and not arsed) , Rashford not interested. Are we relying on Mainoo? Casemiro badly missed.
Signed Amrabat & Mount, promoted Mainoo & Mejbri, just to end up playing McTominay after two huge windows of spending.
This football club just can't let go.
Yes. We’ve paid heavily for those injury time winners, since he’s contributed precious little else.I am absolutely sick of seeing this guy start every game. Yes he bags the odd goal but absolutely stinks at everything else
It’s one of those unknowable situations as well with McT. He scored a few goals this season but then how much better overall would the team be if we had a good CM? We might just be winning games without needing these lat gasp winners.Yes. We’ve paid heavily for those injury time winners, since he’s contributed precious little else.
Caveman football, some of the fans here call for. I don't think Mount should be a CM either, but Newcastle show that you shouldn't have to play frail players in order to also have intelligent, hard-working, technical ones. There are tens of mct replacements with a good spring and some upper body strength who would bring more to the table in terms of...pretty much everything else. An odd goal here and there during chaos football or when playing like lampard (except with a bad concussion) in the attacking 8 position , leaving huge space behind you for the Cm to be swamped by opponents, isn't enoughTeams with great midfields don’t give away as many corners though. Having players like McTominay loses our control, and we concede more corners because of it.
Why the shock, its pretty standardWowzers that was bad.
Even top transition teams need to control games. Look at us under Fergie, Klopp's Liverpool, Real Madrid during their recent CL domination. All of them considered one of the best, if not the best, counter-attacking team in the world, but all of them actually controlled games more often than not.He is not even trying to control a game, forget McT for a moment, Ten Hag said it himself, he wants to be the best transition team, midfield control is not part of anything we have seen from him at Utd, no matter the player, it is all launch it forward into the channels and force mistakes high up the pitch.
Long ball shite and opportunistic football, if he hadn't come from Ajax with their storied history he would have called on this much earlier.
To be fair, Scott always has been a fairly good goal threat when he actually gets around the box. However throughout most of his time here we haven't had him getting into the box very often, something that ETH has changed recently which is why Scott is suddenly scoring a few goals. It's arguably the only aspect of Scott's game which is above average.I remember hearing a commentator call him a ‘goal threat’ (probably based off Scotland) but he averages 1 in 10 for United and he has 5 goals in his last 64 league games but Ten Hag seems to be treating him like peak Frank Lampard. He’s not even good at that, never mind other midfield stuff.
we are still going to have to defend 5 or 6 corners per game. With a team of midgets that pretty much confirms conceding 1 or 2 per game. Mc tominay is a massive downgrade on Ibra or Cavani but its what we have left, Should never have let Garner leaveTeams with great midfields don’t give away as many corners though. Having players like McTominay loses our control, and we concede more corners because of it.
Garner wanted to go. And this will be the same with other academy products because why would you wait when watching Scott McTominay hid on the pitch and you can't even get 5 mins of playing time?we are still going to have to defend 5 or 6 corners per game. With a team of midgets that pretty much confirms conceding 1 or 2 per game. Mc tominay is a massive downgrade on Ibra or Cavani but its what we have left, Should never have let Garner leave
Why the shock, its pretty standard
That is a fair point and realistically its not on ETH as he wanted to leave before ETH joined. Its more of a reflection on our (lack of a) footballing structure.Garner wanted to go. And this will be the same with other academy products because why would you wait when watching Scott McTominay hid on the pitch and you can't even get 5 mins of playing time?
Should have sold him and kept Fred.