Holy feck.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
- Thread starter Don't Kill Bill
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Sorry. Vaccination = Mark of The Beast is well into tin foil hat silliness.
It does. If the doomsday fellow is claiming this specific event to be from a specific verse in Revelation, then when the end of the world doesn’t happen, say a couple years from now, is he going to use the same verse again about a different event?
If it’s a prophetic event from a prophetic book, then it should only be cited once.
It didn't make sense that he's only allowed one misinterpretation and that a misinterpretation should bring his faith into question.
I reckon you get a bit of leeway when interpreting a 2,000 year old book that's been translated through several now defunct languages.
Yeah basically this. That video has been all over my Facebook today. It’s like people don’t have basic ability to verify the nonsense they share because, well, every conspiracy is true and proves people who believe it are smarter.
I really hope she is ok mate.
There is a thread for stuff like that, coronaspriracy. This thread is for real stuff that is going on.
Thank god.
Hope she's ok mate, fecking shit situation we are in. Get her out of there if it's possible.
Does anyone reckon the larger public in the UK will at some stage come to terms with the fact that the government has done a truly awful job with this virus? From Google statistics it looks like UK accounts for 11% of deaths globally, there should be absolute uproar given the relative isolation of the UK, and the head start they had on somewhere like Italy.
The UK are one of the least isolated country in the World, the capital is one of the main hubs on earth.
Are there any sort of stats anywhere to show if they are saving more people now per percentage who end up in hospital with it than they were at the start? Through learning that varying some procedures that were recommended in Feb/March for treating people, are better done a little differently, and so are helping a few more really ill people fight it off now.
Thanks
Just 3 new cases in Lithuania from a record high number of tests conducted yesterday. We're getting there it seems (eliminating virus completely) despite having softened the lockdown two weeks ago already and outside bars/cafes/restaurants being open. General public (vastly) have really taken all the social distancing seriously and altered their behaviour as per recommendations when out and about in the public. Good to see.
Also, I've been looking at the numbers on worldometer, and it came apparent to me that South Korea has stopped testing mostly for the past few weeks after going gung-ho with it at the beginning or is it simply that they feel they can control the spread pretty well now that the whole picture became clear?
More or less relevant to the current situation as a 2000 year old story book?
Is that Simon Pegg with long hair?
You try feeding your kids on Universal Credit after you’ve paid for fags, booze, a full Sky Tv subscription, your iPhone package, the lottery, scratch cards and an all inclusive holiday.
An informative thread on the prob of transmission
That‘s a really useful summary of the data. Confirms what I’ve been thinking for while. Living, working or sharing a cab/train with sick people puts you at risk.
Picking up the same can of beans at a supermarket, or walking less than 2m past a sick person does not.
It’s understandable but there’s definitely a lot of irrational fear out there.
Poor post. Try feeding them after you've paid for rent, Bill's and food. You'd struggle.
Even more difficult for them during lockdown I'd wager with no child care or school meals etc.
Yup. Also worth noting that children do not transmit the virus much if at all.
Thanks for sharing. Very interesting read.
Missed the sarcasm i reckon
If it's based on the Spectator article, that paragraph is a bit strange without any idea regarding the sample size or more details about the cases, the one anecdotal example doesn't allow to make that type of conclusions. They should be careful with the way they claim things.
Here you have examples of conflicting opinions.
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I'm not sure if you're being pedantic, but I assume you understand my point, it is an island. It's clearly much easier to implement international travel restrictions in the UK over any country in mainland Europe.
People in Milan (Navigli) congregating without masks and without staying 1 or 2 metres apart. Milan also has one of the highest number of cases in Europe. A second wave, coming soon?
https://video.repubblica.it/dossier...360404?ref=RHPPLF-BH-I255968778-C8-P2-S2.4-T1
https://video.repubblica.it/dossier...360404?ref=RHPPLF-BH-I255968778-C8-P2-S2.4-T1
I got your point and it's wrong because what matter is the initial contact, the UK being an international hub means that the virus was most likely on the island when Italy didn't even knew that it was in Italy. For all these countries the key point was to stop community transmissions within the country because the virus was already imported in December-January and spreaded from within.
I'm not sure how we can make comparisons across countries at the moment based on raw statistics. There's no uniform categorisation of deaths for a start, and each country will inevitably have it's own issues caused by demographics, culture, geography and a whole host of other issues.
For context, I'm not a Tory, nor a fan of Boris and what he stands for, but we are dealing with a global pandemic. Some of the criticism is warranted. Lack of testing has been a huge issue. The fact that the NHS is underfunded following years of Tory austerity policies is true, but crucially the NHS has not (yet) failed. The furloughing scheme protects jobs and (according to the Bank of England) should help avoid lasting damage to the economy after the inevitable, and deep recession.
One issue I do have is that the Government is not providing enough information as to how they are making decisions. I'd prefer more transparency because we know they are balancing public safety against the overall cost to the economy, which is (in my opinion) absolutely the right thing to do and something countries around the world either have done, or will have to do as they ease out of lockdown.
Conclusion 2: (a) we need to redesign our living/working spaces & rethink how to provide better, ventilated living/working environment for those who live in deprived & cramped areas; (b) avoid close, sustained contact indoors & in public transport, & maintain personal hygiene.
It's what I've been saying and wish there was more information to the public and care homes rather than cleaning phones and washing hands. We see how airborne droplets in confined areas disperse very quickly with some ventilation and how they hang around and build up if not. People in small homes or other similar spaces like work, taxis buses and corners of restaurants which I've posted show it can spread 2 metres or more to the next table or seat on a bus. People at home in their living room sat apart will still get it when chatting and eating day after day, having your close friends over for a chinwag and a glass of wine or a cuppa for a few hours. Care home communal areas will be really bad in March with poor ventilation, people coughing and talking. China and now NY have data showing most infections come from home, they bring it home from other close personal or confined contact, we had the China data long ago, something like 75% at home.
The choir in LA is a good example of how it can spread scaled up. They all got their hand sanitiser on at the entrance, kept spaced apart but they're in a closed environment and expelling and breathing in, it's a big re-circulation event happening unseen and many got infected.
I keep seeing many members of families get it, brothers and couples dying on the same day or days apart. Grandparents dying having caught it off their 40-50 year old daughter and now the grand kids have lost their grandmother and great grandparents. It's tough to do but had they kept apart they'd still be here. it's very easy to think it's out there with strangers and shut your windows, your close friends or relative are fine but it's the opposite. Moving out the way of some stranger outside won't help you when it's the close contact inside from your family or close friends or colleagues.
Going way back there was a Chinese women working in Europe, she only passed it on to the person she was working close with, no-one else in the office got infected.
BBC, every other day, are you cleaning your phone properly, here's how.
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How do you solve the public transport conundrum though?
Should we be discussing Kyle Walker’s latest slip up in here? Not seen another thread.
I disagree
What exactly are you disagreeing with? Surely you realize that almost all infections aren't imported and that the virus was in Europe in December? You also know that London and in particular Heathrow are global hubs?
Of course, I disagree with the point that limiting incoming cases as part of a plan to restrict infections is not important. Any island that didn't do that missed an opportunity to help with controlling the initial outbreak, in my opinion.
That is a very good question. Up to recently, we used the buses quite a lot. But now, they run nearly empty.
I understand that some bus operators are limiting the numbers of passengers they will carry to half the seats.
Stop making millions of people rush into offices every day when they can work from home?
What the heck has he done now?
The thread about his sex party was locked. Ive asked for it to be reopened.
He's using the mental health card re the reporting on him as well. There would be no reports if he didnt think he was above the social distancing guidelines