SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

Looks like a lot of European countries want to get their 2nd wave started and possibly fit in a 3rd wave if they can this year.

I could see a lot of Brits trying to book flights to Germany and Austria if these countries do ease restrictions in the next month.

We know Heathrow has been dealing with this basically as if nothing’s happened, I could see airlines trying to fit in a few flights with the easing of restrictions, and then I’m not sure how Germany/Austria are going to enforce quarantine for someone arriving. Unless they keep their borders closed, and travel into isn’t an option.

Fun times ahead.
Merkel announced today, that Germany stops declaring single countries as dangerous hotspots, but starts treating the whole world as potential dangerous travel destinations. Everyone coming into Germany, no matter from what country, will be put in quarantine for 2 weeks with commuter close to the border as the exception if they work in one of the neighbouring countries.

If (and that's a big if as of now) Germany eases the restrictions, it'll be slowly and the new border restrictions will stay in place for quite a while.
 
Yeah the first stages for any country will be phased and plenty of social distancing / limitations on numbers being implemented. Reduced opening hours maybe for certain establishments when they open, and a limit on the number of people allowed in at any given time. That will be quite tough to enforce though, probably. But hey, the police are walking the streets everywhere anyway so it might be plausible?

It's been a slightly refreshing day though for Europe, some kind of good news coming out for several countries. We're probably a few weeks behind but it will start happening for us.

If or when mass-scale, quick testing becomes available, that will be a game changer. As soon as you feel slightly iffy, you should be able to get a test and a quick answer. It won't necessarily stop the asymptomatic carriers, but it might ensure a slow, gradual burn through the population. All this in combination with antibody tests, of course.
 
Idiots. What demographic is even doing these things?

I can't remember where i read it probably twitter but there was some telecom expert saying they always get complaints of headaches when they put up new masts. Apparently most of his job was going to town halls to inform those complaining of headaches that they hadn't even switched it on yet.

What makes it even more ridiculous and absurd is that most of the masts that are being destroyed aren't even 5g due to the slow rollout. So most of the vandalized masts contain 3G or 4G technology. Surprise, surprise, this misinformation has been circulated on Facebook and has also led to attacks on Engineers who go out to fix them. Mental.
 
I think he meant for the time being, though. A full return to normal daily life will see the numbers spiral out of control, of course, particularly in Oslo and a few other cities, and keeping the virus out of care homes is still a challenge, so some degree of social distancing is needed from here on as well.
Oh im sure he ment it like you say. Still a bold statement when you think of what the papers will print as their headline for example.
 
Meanwhile, in South Africa there have been incidents of desperate alcoholic criminals breaking into locked liquor stores to steal alcohol. People are losing their minds having to go 21 days without liquor. When faced with these withdrawal symptoms many would turn to chain smoking. Unfortunately our government has banned the sale of cigarettes.

No alcohol. No cigarettes. No beaches. No walking the dog. No nuthin'. As far as lockdowns go - this one's a doozy.
People might dismiss it as serious or say they brought it upon themselves, but it’s no laughing matter for those concerned. We’ve deemed liquor stores and medical marijuana shops as ‘essential businesses’ that can stay open.
 
Merkel announced today, that Germany stops declaring single countries as dangerous hotspots, but starts treating the whole world as potential dangerous travel destinations. Everyone coming into Germany, no matter from what country, will be put in quarantine for 2 weeks with commuter close to the border as the exception if they work in one of the neighbouring countries.

If (and that's a big if as of now) Germany eases the restrictions, it'll be slowly and the new border restrictions will stay in place for quite a while.

That’s great news and the only way to control an easing of the lockdowns. I didn’t know you had the capacity to put that many people in quarantine for 2 weeks but if you do then godspeed.
 
People might dismiss it as serious or say they brought it upon themselves, but it’s no laughing matter for those concerned. We’ve deemed liquor stores and medical marijuana shops as ‘essential businesses’ that can stay open.
You are clearly lucky enough to live in an enlightened country. Ours just went berserker mode. It's good, I guess, but c'mon! Cigarettes and alcohol! Give us a break!
 
No updated UK figures today yet? Normally out at around 2 in the afternoon.
There have been fewer deaths reported today than on any day since last Tuesday.

However, the same dip in numbers occurs every Sunday and Monday because of the preceding weekend.

Unfortunately, I'm expecting a spike tomorrow. Quite possibly a big one, since the effects of the lockdown won't be felt for another week or so. Last Tuesday, the numbers jumped up 43%.

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you’re in Italy, no? Can only speak for the UK but you can consider yourself very unlucky if you still can’t get any fresh food here within 10 miles
We can get a small choice of fruit and veg, but that's only a part of what we eat and the shop doesn't have a lot to go around everyone. I can't get the lower-calorie versions of anything, such as cheese and yoghurts. We can't travel out of area to shop, we have to buy from the nearest shop that sells essential food items.
 
These 5 o'clock press conferences are a shambles now. Every one of those journalists only had a single line of questioning, all of them absolutely creaming their pants at the prospect of Boris being on oxygen or some other juicy scoop. I can imagine they are all chasing the holy grail of a photo of him on his 'death bed'.
 
Ok. It’s made it harder to a pedant. But it’s not made it hard.

It’s taken away a location. The parameters of getting fit remain the same. The fact that a preferred method isn’t available doesn’t make it hard.

So not having the easiest way of staying fit available(in their opinion) to an individual hasn't made it harder for them to stay fit. Have I got that right? Does someone pay you to be contrarian or what?
 
Personally I've experienced me and my friends being healthier if anything through all this.

I think people are confusing being annoyed with their own circumstance and not being able to do what they usually like with wider populace.

Honestly if you can't cook healthy food and fit in a workout whilst working from home permanently then when can you. Also I'm sure I'm not in the only neighboured which has seen a huge spike in people walking around.
Do you or any of your friends have children whose nurseries and schools been closed? The second my son goes to sleep I just sit on my sofa like a potato due to exhaustion.
 
France

74390 cases + 3912
29722 hospitalized + 831
7072 in intensive care + 94 i
6494 dead + 605

Care homes
23620 cases + 1259
2417 dead + 228

A rise in hospital deaths
 
France update:

- 605 new deaths among hospitalized patients; we are still updating the deaths that occured in nursing homes 228 have been added.
- 8911 total deaths. 6494 in hospitals and 2417 in nursing homes and other health structures.
- 94 more ICU beds occupied.
 
Hi mate,

Thanks for asking, really appreciate it. After a week long battle, my Grandpa passed away over the weekend. My Nan was also admitted to hospital but she seems to be making an improvement. The nurses made sure she could spend 15 mins with my Grandpa to say goodbye before he passed. Absolutely heartbreaking that we can't be there to comfort her.

feck. I'm really sorry to hear that. Heartbreaking that you couldn't be there for your nan to comfort her. May your grandfather rest in peace.
 
My sister is a nurse who manages a team but not at a general hospital. They’ve had 4 cases but the patients live in, I believe, so it’s come from outside. One of them on a ventilator. She just sent me a photo of the them wearing their PPE and the masks are absolutely shocking, you could barely call them masks. They’ve now been told they’re being deployed in the local hospitals specifically to tackle virus patients.

She is still waiting on an email response from 3rd and 4th line management for a complaint she raised about this last week.
 
Hi mate,

Thanks for asking, really appreciate it. After a week long battle, my Grandpa passed away over the weekend. My Nan was also admitted to hospital but she seems to be making an improvement. The nurses made sure she could spend 15 mins with my Grandpa to say goodbye before he passed. Absolutely heartbreaking that we can't be there to comfort her.
Feck mate. Condolences.
 
there was a short lived lack of stocks last week but it’s pretty much back to the way it was now in the vast majority of the U.K.
Where are you getting that info from?

The situation is worsening in places, proving the initial wave of hoarders right to have done what they did. Prices are also rising in various supermarkets, further compounding the notion the hoarders were actually the smart ones, sickeningly.

Further to that, it takes over an hour to get into large supermarkets (who, one would hope, meet all needs under a single roof) then to be met by depleted (cleared) aisles of various items.

Seems to me, if you don't get there on the day of delivery, you're highly unlikely to get all the healthy stuff one would normally expect to fill up a trolley.
 
Not sure how people can really be eating worse than before. If you don’t have access to enough fresh food now you sure as feck didn’t have access to it when you’re working 40+ hours a week.
I'm still doing 40 hours from home and obviously don't want to go out to shop that much wherever possible.

Tried signing up to Hellofresh which sends you fresh ingredients for whatever meals you want to make for that week but they're not taking on any more customers due to high demand at the minute. Same with Gousto.

Unless you want to go shopping every few days/week you need long lasting food which generally isn't the healthiest.
 
China starting to see a rise in cases again. Papers saying that loads of them are asymptomatic.
 
Former McLaren boss Ron Dennis has created a scheme to supply a million free meals to NHS workers during the coronavirus crisis.

Dennis says his foundation has put in place a £1.5m budget and joined forces with a number of companies to supply 1,000 meals a day to health workers.

Good man. This is the kind of selfless story that makes me proud of humani-

"It is an amazing effort, which I think is reflective of my reputation. If I say I'm going to do something I do it."

What a pompous fecking cnut he is.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/52186473