SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

guardian live update

British tourists stranded in Nepal say they have had to turn to the embassies of other European countries for help, after the British government failed to rescue them. Maria Terziska, who arrived back in the UK yesterday on a French rescue flight, said, “I have never felt so helpless in my life… It was a really scary situation and it felt like the British embassy did not care about anyone or anything.” Terziska said she was trekking in the Everest region when she heard that the Foreign Office was advising British nationals to return home.

“The British embassy did nothing to get us back to Kathmandu, it was the Nepali tourism authorities and our tour guide who got us back,” she said. In Kathmandu, Terziska said she was unable to get any information about flights from the embassy, so she turned to the French for help.

Another British trekker, Scott Hopkinson, managed to return to the UK on a German rescue flight. “I felt so stressed. There was no clarity from the British embassy. It was giving out conflicting information,” said Hopkinson.

The British embassy in Kathmandu announced today that rescue flights for British nationals would be leaving on Wednesday and Friday, almost two weeks after German and French tourists began to be evacuated. A seat on the flights arranged by the British embassy costs £800, twice the cost of the French rescue flight. Foreign secretary Dominic Raab announced last week that the government had allocated £75million for rescue flights to repatriate British citizens stranded abroad by the coronavirus.

On March 22, the Nepal government banned all international flights. The announcement came at the height of the tourist season when tens of thousands of visitors arrive to trek and climb in the Himalayas. Two days later the government announced a lockdown, leaving many trekkers trapped in remote regions, struggling to return the capital Kathmandu, which has the country’s only international airport.

The Foreign Office has been approached for comment.
 
Tbh if you were a slob before this isn't going to change you and if you were a fitness freak before then like you said those people will be more inventive. It's a mentality thing.

Fewer work stresses seems a bit glib though. I wager there are far more people stressed about not having any work and wondering how they are going to stay afloat than those thinking "well this is nice to be out the office."
Quite a discussion on Sky at the moment with the president of the police superintendents association, amongst others, on how they are dealing with the large increase in suicides taking place. Sounds rather like there are more severely stressed people at the moment, not fewer.
 
Merkel announces no relaxing of measures until April 19th at the earliest.
 
Quite a discussion on Sky at the moment with the president of the police superintendents association, amongst others, on how they are dealing with the large increase in suicides taking place. Sounds rather like there are more severely stressed people at the moment, not fewer.

Imagine having a serious mental illness and then having the worry of COVID on top of that coupled with a vastly reduced and restricted mental health service who are no longer doing face to face work. Plus not being able to see friends and family. It's not good for any of us and unfortunately will push some people over the edge.
 
Merkel announces no relaxing of measures until April 19th at the earliest.
Jeez...I guess the 'papers were right when they said that she dominates Harry.
 
Hi mate,

Thanks for asking, really appreciate it. After a week long battle, my Grandpa passed away over the weekend. My Nan was also admitted to hospital but she seems to be making an improvement. The nurses made sure she could spend 15 mins with my Grandpa to say goodbye before he passed. Absolutely heartbreaking that we can't be there to comfort her.
Condolences.

I find the bolded the harshest of all as the sense of closure is taken from you as well as the loss of a loved one. I hope your Nan pulls through.
 
Since when does shutting down avenues not make it harder to do something?! Just because there are workarounds doesn’t change the fact that closing gyms has made it more difficult to get/stay fit.

And that’s without even getting into the end of organised sport. No football means my son (who has zero fecking interest in going jogging, because jogging is dull as feck) will likely lose a lot of his cardio fitness and no climbing gyms, or access to outdoor boulders, means I’m rapidly getting out of shape too (because doing loads of pull-ups and finger-boarding is dull as feck too) When exercise becomes more difficult/boring to do, a lot of people will become less fit. That’s an inescapable fact.

Ok. It’s made it harder to a pedant. But it’s not made it hard.

It’s taken away a location. The parameters of getting fit remain the same. The fact that a preferred method isn’t available doesn’t make it hard.
 
Since when does shutting down avenues not make it harder to do something?! Just because there are workarounds doesn’t change the fact that closing gyms has made it more difficult to get/stay fit.

And that’s without even getting into the end of organised sport. No football means my son (who has zero fecking interest in going jogging, because jogging is dull as feck) will likely lose a lot of his cardio fitness and no climbing gyms, or access to outdoor boulders, means I’m rapidly getting out of shape too (because doing loads of pull-ups and finger-boarding is dull as feck too) When exercise becomes more difficult/boring to do, a lot of people will become less fit. That’s an inescapable fact.

This is roughly my take (having brought up the whole fitness topic in the first place!). I used to play football every week because I enjoyed it - getting fit in the process was a very useful extra. Ditto kickboxing. I cycled to work because it was easier than driving and took about the same length of time.

I like to stay in shape, but find it very difficult to motivate myself to just exercise for the sake of exercising - hence no interest in gyms or jogging - and I definitely feel like im much less healthier now than a month ago, as a result.
 
Imagine having a serious mental illness and then having the worry of COVID on top of that coupled with a vastly reduced and restricted mental health service who are no longer doing face to face work. Plus not being able to see friends and family. It's not good for any of us and unfortunately will push some people over the edge.
Yeah, and I think a lot more people are at risk than just those diagnosed with a serious mental illness. Millions are on the edge with anxiety or depression that have never even sought medical help, even though they probably should have. I say they, I should have worked we in there really. Loneliness is a terrible thing at the best of times, and there must be many more feeling that at moment than ever, as you say of course.
 
Ok. It’s made it harder to a pedant. But it’s not made it hard.

It’s taken away a location. The parameters of getting fit remain the same. The fact that a preferred method isn’t available doesn’t make it hard.

I think you're over simplifying things.

I'm eating in different ways than I normally would now I don't spend 2 hours a day commuting and I'm spending more time around my 8 month old and partner on maternity. Those 2 being unable to get out and about and expend energy means they're quite demanding of my time (I now help with the baby where my partner would ordinarily not have a choice but to deal with it, for example, when I go to the gym straight from work). I have asthma so can't go on proper runs and have limited stuff to workout from home. I could do more, but I can also see why some may be struggling and don't think it's as simple as you're suggesting.
 
The Minister of Health in Norway announced this afternoon that the epidemic is «under control». According to their estimates each infected person infects 0.7 others.
 
No updated UK figures today yet? Normally out at around 2 in the afternoon.
 
Similar thing happened in Germany, almost the exactly same price even. They got a former playmate to be their front and the scum from Bild even endorsed them.

I've watched that. Unbelievable. You have to admit though, the playmate was very articulate.
 
Not sure how people can really be eating worse than before. If you don’t have access to enough fresh food now you sure as feck didn’t have access to it when you’re working 40+ hours a week.
Number of working hours doesn't have any relevance to there being a lack of stock in shops. Your post is a dum dum.
 
Meanwhile, in South Africa there have been incidents of desperate alcoholic criminals breaking into locked liquor stores to steal alcohol. People are losing their minds having to go 21 days without liquor. When faced with these withdrawal symptoms many would turn to chain smoking. Unfortunately our government has banned the sale of cigarettes.

No alcohol. No cigarettes. No beaches. No walking the dog. No nuthin'. As far as lockdowns go - this one's a doozy.
 
there was a short lived lack of stocks last week but it’s pretty much back to the way it was now in the vast majority of the U.K.
I guess every single supermarket within a ten mile radius of me isn't part of that majority then. There's been a lack for longer than a week as well not sure where you're getting that info from other than pulling it out of your inferior bird arse.

Fecking seagulls, man. Don't have a clue.
 
Not sure how people can really be eating worse than before. If you don’t have access to enough fresh food now you sure as feck didn’t have access to it when you’re working 40+ hours a week.
Agreed - the shops seem to have plenty of food now (locally to me anyway) after the panic buyers depleted stocks of some items. My problem is while I'm eating better, probably eating less in general, I'm no where near as active.
 
Not sure how people can really be eating worse than before. If you don’t have access to enough fresh food now you sure as feck didn’t have access to it when you’re working 40+ hours a week.
Depends where you live. I can't get the food we'd normally eat, there's no home deliveries here, I can't go out to walk around. So - it's been an unhealthy month for me.
 
Bold statement, but really hopes he is right.
A slight feeling of a small change of winds in Europe for the better.

I think he meant for the time being, though. A full return to normal daily life will see the numbers spiral out of control, of course, particularly in Oslo and a few other cities, and keeping the virus out of care homes is still a challenge, so some degree of social distancing is needed from here on as well.
 
Jog on on pal. EVERYONE was unprepared but Trump is literally sitting on stockpiles of ventilators. It’s scandalous! Anyway this is the wrong thread so I’ll stop at this

To be fair it is slightly more complex than that. What Cuomo asked for is more than the entire federal stockpile. Obviously Trump can sent all those ventilators to New York. The problem then is what happens next when Louisiana, Florida, Michigan, Connecticut and co get worse and there are 0 ventilators to be sent. Rightly or wrongly, the federal government has decided to take a more balanced view and sent some ventilators to all those states in need, rather than sent all of them to the most hit state.
 
I think he meant for the time being, though. A full return to normal daily life will see the numbers spiral out of control, of course, particularly in Oslo and a few other cities, and keeping the virus out of care homes is still a challenge, so some degree of social distancing is needed from here on as well.


Yeah the first stages for any country will be phased and plenty of social distancing / limitations on numbers being implemented. Reduced opening hours maybe for certain establishments when they open, and a limit on the number of people allowed in at any given time. That will be quite tough to enforce though, probably. But hey, the police are walking the streets everywhere anyway so it might be plausible?

It's been a slightly refreshing day though for Europe, some kind of good news coming out for several countries. We're probably a few weeks behind but it will start happening for us.
 
Looks like a lot of European countries want to get their 2nd wave started and possibly fit in a 3rd wave if they can this year.

I could see a lot of Brits trying to book flights to Germany and Austria if these countries do ease restrictions in the next month.

We know Heathrow has been dealing with this basically as if nothing’s happened, I could see airlines trying to fit in a few flights with the easing of restrictions, and then I’m not sure how Germany/Austria are going to enforce quarantine for someone arriving. Unless they keep their borders closed, and travel into isn’t an option.

Fun times ahead.
 
439 additional deaths in the UK in the last 24 hours, compared to 621 in the previous 24 and 708 between Friday and Saturday. Usual caveats about lower weekend figures apply.
 


Idiots. What demographic is even doing these things?

I can't remember where i read it probably twitter but there was some telecom expert saying they always get complaints of headaches when they put up new masts. Apparently most of his job was going to town halls to inform those complaining of headaches that they hadn't even switched it on yet.
 
Idiots. What demographic is even doing these things?

I can't remember where i read it probably twitter but there was some telecom expert saying they always get complaints of headaches when they put up new masts. Apparently most of his job was going to town halls to inform those complaining of headaches that they hadn't even switched it on yet.

Some parts of society are just plain stupid. You could tell them the sky was made of oreos and they would believe you.