How hot is 'hot'? Should I boil it on the hob?
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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How hot is 'hot'? Should I boil it on the hob?
The hotter, the better. Although it should be good enough from draft.
Do they both have the same friend?
Even the OR is capitalized. I'm somewhat curious now to know where Dr. John Campbell gets his info.
Does anyone actually know what the next course of action is if someone fails a temperature screening on arrival somewhere?
I'm assuming they're journey will be well and truly halted so what next? What would they actually do with them?
I'm assuming they're journey will be well and truly halted so what next? What would they actually do with them?
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90,000 cases 3,000 deaths worldwide. That's over a 3% fatality rate.
But if you consider that most of those cases happened in the developing world, the demographics will have been skewed towards a younger age range so far.
Once covid-19 fully breaks in Europe and America, we're going to see a higher proportion of elderly people catching the virus and consequently a higher proportion of serious cases. That's obviously going to be balanced out by victims receiving a higher level of healthcare, but I still wouldn't be surprised if the fatality rate in the UK reaches around 4%.
If a quarter of the country catch it, that's potentially half a million deaths.
But that extrapolation is full of assumptions and very much the worst case scenario. Hopefully.
But if you consider that most of those cases happened in the developing world, the demographics will have been skewed towards a younger age range so far.
Once covid-19 fully breaks in Europe and America, we're going to see a higher proportion of elderly people catching the virus and consequently a higher proportion of serious cases. That's obviously going to be balanced out by victims receiving a higher level of healthcare, but I still wouldn't be surprised if the fatality rate in the UK reaches around 4%.
If a quarter of the country catch it, that's potentially half a million deaths.
But that extrapolation is full of assumptions and very much the worst case scenario. Hopefully.
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Feck, I didn't know. The email I got had a numbered list, which didn't get captured in copy paste to WhatsApp. Perhaps a common friend.
The true mortality rate is likely to be 1-2%. The figure looks higher presently because there will have been a lot of cases which weren't diagnosed (awareness of the virus was low, and its effects are quite mild in most cases meaning a lot of people will have had the virus without realising it, and will not have presented themselves for examination).
The factors which will tend to increase the rate are poverty, poor medical facilities, and an aging population. The UK only ticks one of those and will most likely see lower mortality rates than most countries.
I've been trying to get an idea of the likely infection rate, but it seems to be one of those interesting statistics that no-one has. Given that we know how it spreads, and can take a number of fairly simple precautions, I doubt it will be any more than 10%. On that basis, the overall number of deaths could be up to 0.2% of the population, so around 130,000 deaths, and these will be skewed towards the elderly.
A guy from our project traveled from China and failed temperature screening and was sent back to China. He didn't have Corona virus just normal flu however. He will be flying back soon
Wow really? Wouldn't that be even more dangerous to send a potentially infected passenger back on a plane?
98% of people who get the virus will survive. And only a small % of people will even get it in the first place. Yet we have media reports of possible curfews and food disappearing off shelves. And idiots in the Greta thread thinking Coronavirus is more serious than climate change.
for those who are following closely: is asthma/bronchitis/rhinitis a factor in morbidity?
Wow really? Wouldn't that be even more dangerous to send a potentially infected passenger back on a plane?
It's what they did
You're in for a shock mate. Welcome to today.
Apparently getting angry correlates with boiling your piss. Sooo, get mad?
Results on my nephew are in but his GP says he can't tell him and the clinic say they can't tell him. Crossed wires somewhere. He has to go to his doctor tomorrow to be told face to face. I doubt he has it if he hasn't been taken away and shot by now.
A Portuguese resident in Rhode Island is claiming US health services refused to test him.
He has cold symptoms and was here in Portugal in a conference sitting next to a person now known to be infected. This is a known fact, it's actually a famous Chilean writer and was a over the news here.
Apparently Portugal is not on the list of worrying places for them.
You know you have a problem when random kids on reddit are better informed than your health authorities.
He has cold symptoms and was here in Portugal in a conference sitting next to a person now known to be infected. This is a known fact, it's actually a famous Chilean writer and was a over the news here.
Apparently Portugal is not on the list of worrying places for them.
You know you have a problem when random kids on reddit are better informed than your health authorities.
98% survived Spanish flu pandemic and yet it's estimated 50 million + died. Some epidemiologists are concerned that Covid-19 could affect 30% of the population in the first year. That's roughly 2.3bn people. Of those 2.3bn people 20% will need medical attention and 5% will need intensive care. That's 385 million people that will need intensive care and they will rely on their country's health care to adequately provide it. I don't think the world is anywhere near prepared for something like this and therefore, because of that, the mortality rate will most likely got up from what it is now. But let's say 2% of that 30% dies, that's 46+ million people dead in a year.
How much do masks cost now (online)? Thinking of buying one but uhh it's like $20 for a single mask. Not just in pricing, but in clarity too, the free market sucks.
South Korea has done the most extensive testing and the last I saw was that they reported a mortality rate of less than 1 %. However that's unlikely to be true in countries less prepared e.g. Iran and the US. I would guess the UK wouldn't be too far off.
yes , have higher risk
Ha, sorry. Like i said, we need a balance.
one mask does not do much , you need to rotate the masks for every use , then let the used one sit as long as the incubation period is estimated .
Masks in general supposedly don't do much. Everything I've read has said you should only use them if you are infected or will be in close contact with someone who is infected. Healthy people buying them for everyday use just depletes stock and makes it harder for those who need them more.
A 98 year old patient in China has recovered from the virus.
Masks are for the infected as it helps not to spread
Mask for the healthy doesn't help or very little and might make you touch your face more so you might contract the virus through contact.
That said by doctors and nurses
Mask for the healthy doesn't help or very little and might make you touch your face more so you might contract the virus through contact.
That said by doctors and nurses
Hope he’s ok Grin.
Clone his/her genes. Grow it. Study it.
That is because there is a reality TV show in which they deliver the results bachelor style.
Hopefully everything is OK.
I'm pretty sure they wouldn't let him roam free for 24 hours if he did have it.
Ha! Just had a WhatsApp chat with a new grad that he was feeling weak with a sore throat just now. He's from Brighton but works with me at Canary Wharf. Booked a session with his GP. I told him to hold his breath for ten seconds, he couldn't. But his GP wanted to see him immediately anyway. Strange, maybe there's a new strategy in play? I obviously told him to dial 111 first and stay at home. I'm not going into work either now. Feck this shit, I don't want to catch it. Suddenly I'm not laughing so much at the mugs that own dozens of masks.
I would understand your argument if that was their sole solution but it's not. They are trying scientific methods to contain the virus and to create a vaccination.
It's just another excuse for today's society to find a way of ridiculing Christianity. I personally don't believe in God but I'm not going to be so arrogant to tell someone who does their wrong.
Surely they wouldn’t ask him to come in if he has it. The near wagon would be turning up
Or be brought in to be told face to face. If he sees his GP in full hazmat gear he knows he's fecked.
Did the receptionist know what he's worried about when booking the appointment?
He shouldn't go into a GP surgery if he's worried he has it.
I would happily ridicule all religions to be honest, not just Christianity.
I just don’t think it has a place in politics anymore. It’s 2020. Leaders use their “gods” to get away with all manner of crap.
Yeah, they know what they're doing. Asked him about contact from anyone abroad, etc. I suspect they will be showing him into a specialist facility. Makes no sense calling him in to infect others.
When there are mass shootings in the US they usually say “thoughts and prayers to the victims..” without actually doing anything. This is why people are skeptical when they see such pictures, led by a guy who is one of the biggest bible bashers in US politics
In terms of this virus, will it be a one time deal or are we likely to see it come back year after year like the common cold or flu? Is it something that can lie dormant in your system to awaken every year; thus causing panic every year?
The worst thing about all this, having to listen to Matt Hancock thinking he knows the scientific consensus. Especially when half of what he says seems to be the opposite of WHO recommendations.
It's not yet known. If it survives the summer then you have to assume it will return next winter.
There are reports of previously cured people re-testing positive, but when you look into them, they were considered cured after something like 2 or 3 days i.e they obviously weren't. There's no solid evidence of it reactivating in people.