SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

Made the mistake of reading accounts of healthy people who caught it and are not looking good. Now I'm terrified again.
 
Made the mistake of reading accounts of healthy people who caught it and are not looking good. Now I'm terrified again.
You’ll be fine, just try not to go out. If you do have to, wash your hands for at least 20 seconds at every single opportunity. Don’t touch your face. No kissing. No shagging. No wanking as your cock could be infected with corona.
 
Made the mistake of reading accounts of healthy people who caught it and are not looking good. Now I'm terrified again.

If you go out anywhere, treat every single person anywhere near you as if they have it.

Wear gloves and cover your face. I use mountain biking gloves and a scarf.

Then for maximum effect, cough into your elbow every couple of minutes.

I've had no issues with anyone invading my space.
 
Why do people on here seem to be trying to outdo each other in terms of doom and gloom or scaremongering? This negativity isn't helping anyone. How about some positivity?
 
@Ish let me know if I need to send you an express package with some Belgian ones :D
That'll be mighty helpful. You know the address ;) :lol:

Queues for groceries and liquor were crazy this morning. Don't think anyone thought alcohol and cigs were going to be banned. Government sort of "contained" the panic a bit by not disclosing their entire plan. initially it was thought restaurants would remain open - but you could only do takeaways....now all restaurants are closed. Outside of essential services, we can only leave the house for essential goods - groceries, medical supplies or emergencies and the collection of social grants. Can't even jog outside or take our dogs for walks.
 
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God bless them



It definitely makes me feel so much better that these naturally beautiful people are sharing pictures of their natural beauty while I'm sitting here overweight, pale and in need of a haircut and a shave in my 3 year old joggers and worn out hoodie.
 
Made the mistake of reading accounts of healthy people who caught it and are not looking good. Now I'm terrified again.

The cases exist, but they are still rare. Especially the ones leading to death(practically non-existent).

In Norway, roughly 10% of confirmed cases end up in the hospital. The actual number of infected getting hospitalized is therefore probably somewhere between 2-5%. Let's say 4% to not be overly positive. Among the hospitalized, roughly 5% have died. All of them have been old or had an underlying condition. The number is expected to rise, but not dramatically as long as there are enough ventilators.

TLDR: the death rate is probably around 0.2% - 0.3%. If you're young and healthy it's significantly lower. The biggest worry is the number of ventilators and available medical staff.
 
well this is where all the modelling comes into play. if the health services aren't stretched at all, and you lock everything down, sure, you stopped the risk of them being overwhelmed. but what then? just stay locked down forever? at some point you then have to ease off the restrictions - and with that the same risk will be back (hence the 'second wave'), which takes us straight back to the beginning again.

the UK's numbers saw that without restrictions, the health services would be overwhelmed. so lockdown was the right thing to do. you can't just assume that's also the case for every other country in the world. every country is different, and it's a given we can't stay locked down forever. when you start and finish each lockdown (and there may be more of these, I'm sure) has to be based on the modelling. if Sweden think their numbers show that its health services won't be overwhelmed (and they are modelling into the future), then it makes no sense to lockdown too early.
UK?

What about every other country in the world? Tell me one were strict measures weren't imposed relatively early and things are under control? Portugal started doing it when we had about about 10 cases, people have been mostly home for the past two weeks and still our hospitals are being overwhelmed. Granted our spare capacity is probably smaller than a wealthier country like Sweden, but still.

There are two types of countries in the world. The ones that acted quickly (all in Asia) and the ones that didn't.

A bunch of leaders and health authorities experimenting "and modelling" with death at their door. If the world returns to normal they should all stand to be trialed.
 
You’ll be fine, just try not to go out. If you do have to, wash your hands for at least 20 seconds at every single opportunity. Don’t touch your face. No kissing. No shagging. No wanking as your cock could be infected with corona.

As long as you bleach your cock before and after you'll be fine
 
I think it's impossible for the statistics to be anywhere near accurate. According to local news we've had three coronavirus linked deaths in our nearby hospital. According to national statistics, there have been zero coronavirus related deaths locally. So who is right? Is it a case of Chinese whispers (absolutely no pun intended!) and a random death from pneumonia (for instance) being recorded as a death from coronavirus locally, or are the government statistics not picking up all the figures from smaller, out of the way locations. We'll never know, but in any case it's easy to see why it's impossible to report this with any accuracy.
 
So are the UK figures for the next while less than useless, in terms of trying to gauge where we might be in all this? do we have to start from scratch, plotting with the new methodology? And was the somewhat potentially promising drop in deaths yesterday a false reading?

I'm trying to contain the cynicism as much as possible but it's getting harder to do.
 
Lockdown combined with social distancing, when you have to go out, will hugely help to prevent our health services becoming overwhelmed. We need lockdown and at least 80% compliance with social distancing.
People forgetting that South Korea never locked down. A solution for one country is not simply the solution for the next.
 
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...s-for-global-government-to-tackle-coronavirus

Gordon Brown giving the world financial advice.

I like how they describe him as "The former Labour prime minister, who was at the centre of the international efforts to tackle the impact of the near-meltdown of the banks in 2008" ....

and not "the man who abdicated control to the (useless) FSA and who has since admitted (and apologised for) that as Chancellor, he didn't understand the intricacies of how global financing was interlinked".

I don't think I trust any politician but GB (the man whose job was to control UK banks and understand the economy) would be down my list
 
So are the UK figures for the next while less than useless? do we have to start from scratch, plotting with the new methodology? And was the somewhat potentially promising drop in deaths yesterday a false reading?

I'm trying to contain the cynicism as much as possible but it's getting harder to do.

Even without the change in methodology, yesterdays figures would have been slightly inaccurate as they weren't for a full 24 hours. The previous day they recorded deaths up until 1pm, yesterday only up until 9am
 
TLDR: the death rate is probably around 0.2% - 0.3%. If you're young and healthy it's significantly lower. The biggest worry is the number of ventilators and available medical staff.
0.2%-0.3%? I don't think that's even remotely true. The last time I checked it was 1.42% in South Korea who have been testing religiously - and that's actually one of the lowest death rates (if not the lowest) of any country with significant number of cases.
 
Also, further to my previous post about the UK refusing to take up the offer of EU ventilator purchasing

About those dyson ventilators



Why is that newsworthy? It reads like they've uncovered some well hidden secret. It says on the bloody spec document they will need to be approved first.
 
Why do people on here seem to be trying to outdo each other in terms of doom and gloom or scaremongering? This negativity isn't helping anyone. How about some positivity?
I'll go semi positive but that's all I have. There are many ongoing clinical trials some of which will surely alleviate conditions.
I've looked at 30 of the 150+ so far and most look like the typical throwing shit at the wall and see what sticks but a few give me hope.
 
Why do people on here seem to be trying to outdo each other in terms of doom and gloom or scaremongering? This negativity isn't helping anyone. How about some positivity?

You clearly missed the celebrities’ heart-warning rendition of Imagine.
 
Why is that newsworthy? It reads like they've uncovered some well hidden secret. It says on the bloody spec document they will need to be approved first.

because it comes the same day that the government refuse an invite to buy ventilators that ARE already approved, via the EU.
 
People forgetting that South Korea never locked down. A solution for one country is not simply the solution for the next.

They were able to keep ahead of testing and forcibly quarantine anybody who had it or was in contact with anybody who had it. They also knew exactly where it started and were able to follow the path from there. Both things that Europe never had the opportunity to do.
 
When one region of Italy, Lombardy, has a higher population and more 65´s than all of Sweden... of course it's on a different level.

No, again your speaking in absolute terms. The area of Stockholm has many times the population density of Lombardy and has a similar proportion of olds. The only advantages Stockholm has is a smaller family unit and a less touchy feely culture - nothing to do with overall size of population at all. The disaster that befell Lombardy could well happen to Stockholm if it's not properly managed (I'm not saying it isn't). I have no problem with Sweden following its own protocols and it will most probably avoid such a terrible scenario but not for any of the population based reasons you've put forward.
 
People forgetting that South Korea never locked down. A solution for one country is not simply the solution for the next.
True but their social distancing was/is excellent.

You just need whatever you do, to be done brilliantly.