SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

Working in a school. Most students havent shown up however we have some in. Of all the the children who are in today not one of their parents/carers are key workers. So basically they're using us as a glorified day care centre because they don't want their kids at home all day.

Why don't you ring the parents up and tell them not to send them back?
 
What happens if this doesn't go away for 6-8 months? Are we all supposed to stay at home for that long? It's not possible at all. Eventually we are all going to have to crack on as it were as tough as that may sound. What choice do we have if it doesn't go away any time soon? Most people can't survive longer than a few months with no cash.
If everyone would actually follow the self-isolation rules strictly, it's bound to go away between now and the summer. The problem is that each country has decided to tackle this on its own, and that a lot of people just don't give a feck about it (e.g. partying kids in Florida).
 
I'm really curious to see how the french government is going to handle the next phase. The health minister announced Saturday that they are putting in place mass testing which will occur when hospitals aren't as busy and will coincede with a relaxing of the lockdown.
 

That's scary but don't take individual experiences out of context yet.
I spoke to somebody the other day who is fairly sure they experienced the new virus in January this year after going home for vacation via Hong Kong in December.
It was around 17 days after they were around in HK for their layover.

Back at work they felt strange, had digestive problems and a small gastro-intestinal problem, felt nauseous and had chills. This lasted about 5 days.
The chills showed infection but some people's temperature doesn't rise - it goes down as the body's way of fighting infection varies from person to person.
They think they might have had COVID-19 but its effect was different from some usual symptoms. This person is rarely sick and seems to have a great immune system.
 

They've clearly cleaned it massively, it's spotless - so whats the point in the first place? They want people to copy them with a dirty one?

Dirty disgusting person. Hope they catch it!
 
A woman died from COVID-19 here today. A day after returning from Los Angeles. Apparently collapsed at home after being picked up at the airport! She'd also recently travelled to France and Tahiti.

I'm amazed at the decisions some people are making right now.

I don’t know about that woman but in the Dan Mace video I posted, he sought medical opinions from two doctors and only travelled after his symptoms had passed and he mostly felt fine.

Those docs ruling out the virus and refusing to test for it are the problem, and there will be thousands like him who’ve done the same I’m sure.

It’s worth pointing out that he was screened for fever on arrival in Cape Town and it was only once he lost his sense of taste and smell that he spoke to a local doc and got tested immediately and received confirmation of a positive result.
 
I’ve read things like this before, what are people collapsing and dying from? I understand people are dying of respiratory failure, but collapsing and dying?

She was infected with COVID-19 so it's likely she had some form of pneumonia and collapsed due to exhaustion. It's said she had shortness of breath and a cough but wasn't picked up by screening at airports.
 
Yeah I read that earlier, it's a fascinating read. The most important conclusion is that buying time right now by imposing heavy measures will be invaluable to be much better equipped by the time we relax those measures. Higher availability of personal protection equipment, faster, more reliable and more widespread testing, better and more focused treatment of patients, more ingrained good practices by the public to avoid spreading the infection and a general greater knowledge about the virus. It boils down to, would you rather fight the peak empty-handed right now or use all of the aforementioned weapons to fight it in a couple of months? I know what option I'd pick.
 
So, just had an email from a hobby shop saying they are preparing for completely shutting down for 5 weeks starting on Thursday.

I suspect they've already been told to do this and they have come out before the official announcement.

They say:
  • We are making plans for a Government enforced 5-6 week despatch operation shutdown
  • We are acting as if this will commence on Thursday 26th March
 
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Yeah I read that earlier, it's a fascinating read. The most important conclusion is that buying time right now by imposing heavy measures will be invaluable to be much better equipped by the time we relax those measures. Higher availability of personal protection equipment, faster, more reliable and more widespread testing, better and more focused treatment of patients, more ingrained good practices by the public to avoid spreading the infection and a general greater knowledge about the virus. It boils down to, would you rather fight the peak empty-handed right now or use all of the aforementioned weapons to fight it in a couple of months? I know what option I'd pick.

This is a perfect summary of the situation. Heavy handed measures now will not take away the problem, but every day is another day of scientists working 24 hours on treatment, factories switching to making ventilators and equipment and supplies being stocked.

The more time we can buy, the better prepared we can be.
 
It's not odd at all. It's a possible symptom in respiratory affections.

Wasn't being reported at all though in any official sources throughout all this, 'til very recently.

Never had a blocked nose massively destroys your taste/smell, majority of your taste is the smells you pick up

I don't think the people describing this symptom, as in the video that @Rado_N posted are simply suffering from a 'blocked nose'.

I've had chronic sinusitis for over a year and a permanently blocked nose because of it, but can still taste / smell.

People are describing a complete loss of smell and taste that continues after they've recovered.
 
So, just had an email from a hobby shop saying they are preparing for completely shutting down for 5 weeks starting on Thursday.

I suspect they've already been told to do this and they have come out before the official announcement.

They say:
  • We are making plans for a Government enforced 5-6 week despatch operation shutdown
  • We are acting as if this will commence on Thursday 26th March

Can't really see that happening
 
Wasn't being reported at all though in any official sources throughout all this, 'til very recently.



I don't think the people describing this symptom, as in the video that @Rado_N posted are simply suffering from a 'blocked nose'.

I've had chronic sinusitis for over a year and a permanently blocked nose because of it, but can still taste / smell.

People are describing a complete loss of smell and taste that continues after they've recovered.
We can only speculate, but I've had similar experiences several times during my life when struggling with a cold or similar illness. It's that typical, constant, never-changing but slightly foul sense of smell and taste that I've come to associate with illness. It's so constant that I can imagine other people experiencing it as a loss of taste and smell. As to why they're only reporting it now? Could be that initially no one thought it worth mentioning until someone said it and several other people started thiking "you know what, that's also what I'm experiencing". Or perhaps it's a slightly different strain, it's hard to tell at this point. It would be premature to start drawing any conclusions just yet I'd think.
 
Wasn't being reported at all though in any official sources throughout all this, 'til very recently.

Nothing was reported until recently and ageusia is one of the possible symptoms for pneumonia but also the flu and a simple cold, and in general inflammation of the respiratory system. It was probably under reported because it's not remarkable, the patient needs to actually complain about it and we didn't had a lot of cases.
 
Hancock on his feet in the Commons, very impressive performance and man on top of his brief... funny never rated him before, "cometh the hour cometh the man".
 
Yeah I read that earlier, it's a fascinating read. The most important conclusion is that buying time right now by imposing heavy measures will be invaluable to be much better equipped by the time we relax those measures. Higher availability of personal protection equipment, faster, more reliable and more widespread testing, better and more focused treatment of patients, more ingrained good practices by the public to avoid spreading the infection and a general greater knowledge about the virus. It boils down to, would you rather fight the peak empty-handed right now or use all of the aforementioned weapons to fight it in a couple of months? I know what option I'd pick.
Yes indeed. It beggars belief, how blasé the attitude from government has been towards human life, and front line workers.
We have 2 weeks worth of infected, yet to hit the hospitals. We need to cap that last week.
 
That's scary but don't take individual experiences out of context yet.
I spoke to somebody the other day who is fairly sure they experienced the new virus in January this year after going home for vacation via Hong Kong in December.
It was around 17 days after they were around in HK for their layover.

Back at work they felt strange, had digestive problems and a small gastro-intestinal problem, felt nauseous and had chills. This lasted about 5 days.
The chills showed infection but some people's temperature doesn't rise - it goes down as the body's way of fighting infection varies from person to person.
They think they might have had COVID-19 but its effect was different from some usual symptoms. This person is rarely sick and seems to have a great immune system.
Isn't it pretty unlikely for them to have caught it in December? Maybe they had a really bad flu. I had one and I rarely ever get sick as well.
 
Apologies for a stupid question, how do I clean banknotes? Lots of shopping in Uzbekistan is still done by using cash. No jokes about money laundering, please.
 
Apologies for a stupid question, how do I clean banknotes? Lots of shopping in Uzbekistan is still done by using cash. No jokes about money laundering, please.

Wear gloves, wash your hands when you've finished.

Got to be honest, the amount of people I've seen hawking up a lung infront of the card machines in shops, I've been using cash as much as possible too.
 
Apologies for a stupid question, how do I clean banknotes? Lots of shopping in Uzbekistan is still done by using cash. No jokes about money laundering, please.

If you can gather as many of these Uzbekistan bank notes as possible and then send then to me I can arrange to cleanse them thoroughly and send them back to you. It might be an idea to get all your friends and family (and anyone else you bump into to) to do the same thing as I provide this service free of charge. Just remember to send me a stamped address envelope. Lets all contribute to staying safe.