Older folk can be in denial through misinformation so will head to the pub regardless as they lived through worse apparently.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
- Thread starter Don't Kill Bill
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There's more to leadership than just implementing measures, though that's obviously the most important part.
It's our national holiday and we're staring straight into an unprecedented crisis over the coming months. It's entirely appropriate for the Taoiseach make a speech that seeks to go beyond policy and actually speak to the people of the country. People are reacting well to the speech because they feel it judged the mood of the country correctly, set the right tone and summed up the scale of what's to come. There's value in that in and of itself.
Further measures and clarity will come at the point the government's scientific advisers deem it most appropriate, which is as it should be. I appreciate that this is a difficult time for businesses but frankly there's a bigger picture here.
Thank you for the info mate.On the first point, no. It's not worth the risk.
As for the rest of it: that's the kind of advice you should be getting from the NHS. Here's the current advice from the RCOG for your other half:
https://www.rcog.org.uk/en/guidelin...nancy/covid-19-virus-infection-and-pregnancy/
The government do list pregnant women in a relatively high risk category with respect to their isolation policy. They're not saying you have to stay away from her. But I it's made clear that she's more vulnerable than most:
* if one member of your family or household has a new continuous cough or high temperature
** if you live alone and you have a new continuous cough or high temperature
*** for example cinema, theatre, pubs, bars, restaurants, clubs
**** for example via telephone or internet
1 such as anyone instructed to get a flu jab each year
https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...protecting-older-people-and-vulnerable-adults
But most importantly, I think you should primarily take the advice of your missus' GP.
For real? With his ankle injury that could end his career..
Someone you don’t know most likely. There are any number of ways it could happen or might already have happened.
What do you mean by ‘undeserved’?
As i suspected, basically martial law is coming, disguised as ‘convid19’ emergency and Tory Government will use to implement things way out of scope of coping with Convid19.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...-it-will-do/what-the-coronavirus-bill-will-do
Same will happen all over the world.
Truly becoming truly an epoch changing event.
Why would you do that...? Genuine question.
Yep also there's a good chance lot of people don't know that the government has advised people not to go into pubs(Not everyone is getting updates on twitter).
The three/four weeks in between the doctor reporting the cases of the outbreak/atypical pneumonia and quarantine doesn't seem unreasonable to me. Until mid January they were still trying to figure out the illness/data. You can't impose such drastic measures without complete and proper information.
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Yeah, Ireland and Australia are both making clear we are in for the long haul through summer at least, six months even, if not longer.
Yep.
When this news first started to break, I thought it was going to be a 9/11 level event. Now I think it's going to end up more like a World War Level event.
Pretty sure China are investing in Serbia? I think he is desperate for help, so your best bet is China
God knows what kind of undiscovered viruses are out there in those bat colonies.
Imagine a MERS-like virus with Covid19-transmissibility. Fecking hell.
Imagine a MERS-like virus with Covid19-transmissibility. Fecking hell.
Dont think it matters who is in government, they would follow outside advice regardless.
We are all fecked after the recession thats coming, FG havent got the goodwill to spearhead it.
I think @Steerpike is talking a fair amount of shite in places but you can't just dismiss how huge an ask it is to expect retired people who live alone to just stop socialising for months on end, maybe more. Loneliness isn't some marginal concern in our current situation. It's one of the biggest problems we're going to face.
That is terrifying but then again in Italy, China and Korea mortality among under 50s was very very low.
What about those the people in the pub go out and effect?
That's very bad. The government should ban pubs.
I always presumed you were a young guy, DOTA...
Serbia and the EU ain’t particular close at the best of times, despite Serbia being on the long journey to join.
Countries are learning entirely the wrong lessons if they think incidents like this mean less international cooperation and integration. It was a failure of that that got us this far. Viruses don’t respect borders and God help anyone who thinks measuring temperatures at borders is any sort of reliable way for stopping the spread.
You're a bellend.
I'm 30. I meant 'we're going to face' as in, as a society. As a world.
I obviously don't know your personal circumstances.
Mine are quite simple. I'm a single retired person with, until very recently, an active and multi-dimensional social life. Following the PM's address yesterday, my entire social life disappeared. There isn't a wife at home to keep my spirits up, or such like, so I face this period of potential lockdown alone and I dread it. I was completely happy with the balance I had between a private and social life, and I was able to enjoy the time I spent alone because it was balanced with the time I spent with others. Without that balance, time alone simply becomes loneliness.
It's not that I can't go a day without a pint, it's that I need social interaction. There is a world of difference between 'existence' and 'life', and I'm sure that is something we will all grow to appreciate in the coming weeks.
As I said, I'd happily forego any NHS treatment if that meant that I could proceed with my life with a degree of normality. I'm sure there are plenty of other people of my age who feel likewise (I was talking to a few of them in the pub yesterday). They are also adults, and they made the same choice as I did. I cannot and will not be held accountable for their choices ("What about their familys, friends, people on the street they pass by?").
Nobody is dismissing the fact that it's a huge ask, but just brazen ignorance because someone feels like the measures brought on by a worldwide crisis are 'undeserved' is extremely grating. Does he think any of us want to sit at home doing nothing for months?
A friend has asked me to go bowling tomorrow night. His reasoning is that there will be nobody there and he needs a night away from the wife and kids before we all get locked down (his wife is getting a similar "night off" from him and the kids tonight).
I can kinda see his logic but will probably pass, those bowling shoes are probably dripping in Covid-19.
I can kinda see his logic but will probably pass, those bowling shoes are probably dripping in Covid-19.
He is one of the biggest actors out there, I wouldn't trust him. He is worse than Trump when it comes to interviews.
This is him laughing at the situation on 26th of February(Italy was hit pretty bad back then) with his idiotic past it doctor telling the Serbian people "it's one of the silliest viruses in the entire human history; it's facebook virus. All women should rush to Milano because everything is on sale there these days". He tried to deny the virus because he didn't want to believe that his Chinese investors he made many deals with brought the virus to Europe:
And this is him few days later pretending to be coughing so he can tell his "haters" that it's not a virus, it's just water that made his throat itchy, so he can be in news again:
Edit: I forgot the funniest video, this is him few months ago trying to speak Chinese:
Mate just buy some nice blu rays and some drugs and chill out for a year. Trust me it's great way to waste time.
People (not aiming this at you!) seem to have a really hard time understanding mortality rates. Yes, the mortality rates are low in 20 or 30 year olds but they weren’t zero. And that’s just the % of people who died. A lot who survived will have ended up very unwell, even ventilated.
So hearing stories about young people critically unwell shouldn’t be any kind of surprise to anyone. In fact, it’s to be expected. Which makes anyone who says “I’m young, I’ll be ok” a bit of a fecking idiot tbh.
You are, and I cannot put too fine a point on this, a selfish moron.
It's not unreasonable but that's beside the point. The fact that China didn't totally self isolate from the rest of the world means that unless every other country decided to isolate China, the virus was going to end up everywhere. You basically only need one international airport to ultimately spread it everywhere.
That's why I don't want hear anything about how China did a great job and I don't want to hear any comparison with other countries that are dealing with China's mess, they messed up and to some extent we all let them messed up. Our political leaders have their fair share of blame but China are responsible for 90% of that mess, from the markets in Wuhan to their handling of people's movements in and out of China.
How about waiting for a month or two before throwing toys out of the pram and literally killing people with impatience?
Nobody will be locked up for 18 fecking months.
Nobody will be locked up for 18 fecking months.
I thank you for the empathy, but I'm curious about the 'shite'.
This is a good idea and something which I will start doing.
i was asked yesterday about a works night out 4th April. I mentioned the virus and the woman looked at me like i had 2 heads
B.C. schools suspended indefinitely
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/coronavirus-covid-19-bc-schools-1.5500453
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/coronavirus-covid-19-bc-schools-1.5500453
This.
New symtom?
Use the phone and internet for social interaction, it's not as good as face to face but it's better than contributing to more people dying.