SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
- Thread starter Don't Kill Bill
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It’s like Ireland’s but the same is that most people have it and not many have recovered so that will shoot up. But it won’t get too anywhere like Italy(hopefully). Expect Germany rate to increase over the next week or two but if they can keep it at 1-2% it would be amazing
And not in lockdown.
How is that so different from Italy? Can't just be age demographics surely.
Phuket, Thailand. No big drama here. In fact its the increased panic over the weekend from western countries that is now freaking out the locals.
Most only have got it over the last few days while Italy have had it for weeks it gets serious over a few days. Germany had 6 deaths so far today in a week they will push a lot more than that
A note on Italy. They have relatively high flu deaths rates each year.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1201971219303285
We estimated excess deaths of 7,027, 20,259, 15,801 and 24,981 attributable to influenza epidemics in the 2013/14, 2014/15, 2015/16 and 2016/17, respectively,
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1201971219303285
We estimated excess deaths of 7,027, 20,259, 15,801 and 24,981 attributable to influenza epidemics in the 2013/14, 2014/15, 2015/16 and 2016/17, respectively,
Ah of course. Still early on the curve.
I don't think any country will stop their own citizens coming back. At worst I'd say you'd have to self-isolate when you come back.
The main concern I'd have is whether there will still be flights entering and leaving the country you are in.
A lot of the airlines may just stop flying as they can no longer afford it. Ryan air have announced they are to ground most of their fleet in the next 7-10 days.
How the feck is a journo not saying that his own fecking father doesn't even understand about not going to pubs!
I think the Foreign Secretary's message should be read as if you don't get home imminently, don't expect us to prioritise getting you home. If you're going abroad, do so in the knowledge we are advising you not to and don't expect us to prioritise getting you home.
Exactly a virus won’t kill you in a day or two it will start attacking your body and over a week or so if your immune system can’t fight it you will get critically ill.
Fancy being our San Marino correspondent?
Italy’s numbers are through the roof the amount of cases is nowhere near close it doesn’t add up with anyone else’s data.
Closer to 150k-200k people if we are estimating we in reality have 55k cases here in the UK
Closer to 150k-200k people if we are estimating we in reality have 55k cases here in the UK
Same- three and a half weeks in Singapore and Australia and all's calm and fine, then come back to a shitstorm with lousy weather. Can you 'work from home' there on a laptop?
It's not only China though is it? This type of market pervades south east asia. And what of Africa and the taste for bush meat? Until the rest of the world develops, we'll not get away from this kind of thing whilst the risks to the greater world will surely continue to increase.
Our work still expecting everyone in. Tested everyone could work from home if expected but seem reluctant to push the button on that.
Instead stick with ridiculous measures like staying 2m away from each other and avoiding the kitchen. Spent ages setting up monitors and phones across the room to still use the same toilets, handles and taps as everyone else.
Lad with Crohns given a private office, but again using all the same facilities.
Very quiet too with the uncertainty, so it just seems pointless to keep this up.
Instead stick with ridiculous measures like staying 2m away from each other and avoiding the kitchen. Spent ages setting up monitors and phones across the room to still use the same toilets, handles and taps as everyone else.
Lad with Crohns given a private office, but again using all the same facilities.
Very quiet too with the uncertainty, so it just seems pointless to keep this up.
They asked him already and he ducked it. Trouble is every one of these journo's tries to squeeze in 2/3 long winded questions every time and miss their chance.
Schools should really close at this point, our trust has had to close one from tommorow onwards ( mentioned earlier with 10+ staff missing today) agencies that provide supply teachers don't have the availability and we're a trust with some teachers working in multiple schools so the additional capacity is higher than most schools.
got the call literally while walking home an hour ago to update our website/social media.
They've also done a check on staff for anyone that meets any of the listed conditions should social distance/ self isolate, this has been sent out to parents to keep those at risk at home ideally.
Just realised, both my boss and colleague have one of these conditions and I believe they'll be working from home. Leaving me to be the only IT support for 5 schools.
got the call literally while walking home an hour ago to update our website/social media.
They've also done a check on staff for anyone that meets any of the listed conditions should social distance/ self isolate, this has been sent out to parents to keep those at risk at home ideally.
Just realised, both my boss and colleague have one of these conditions and I believe they'll be working from home. Leaving me to be the only IT support for 5 schools.
I love how Macron announced 300 million Euros, so the UK government went for 330 million pounds.
Not sure if you missed it before but Germany have done 135k testing in last two weeks where as other countries were recently 20-40k or less in total. No doubt Germany have better healthcare.
Also shows the situation is not that severe yet in Germany, perhaps down to not being a tourist hotspot like Italy, France and Madrid and have implemented a lot of measures and closed the borders. Think they will manage this much better than most in Europe, lots of ICU beds.
My return flight is Phuket-Doha-London and on a codeshare between Qatar Airways and BA. Both are still running those flights (Qatar allowing people to enter only for transit purposes and inside specific zone inside Hamad airport).
My reasoning is Qatar Government will ensure their airline keeps afloat, if they close, then I get swapped onto BA
Yeah, its wishy-washy like BJ's advice yesterday, Wish they would be definitive.
Rookie mistake, the young french leader showed his hand too early.
The US making it rain with some helicopter money. Who would have thought it'd be Trump to enact such a leftist policy 
My neighbour who is retired and i guess sixtyish was so bullish when i asked him was he afraid of the current climate. "Others will die; i wont even get it."
The naivety of some people.
Hopefully they lock down Ireland soon.
The naivety of some people.
Hopefully they lock down Ireland soon.
I very much doubt this reflects the reality. How can it given the rest of the world's fatality rates? They are simply not testing.
The key to a low death rate then seems to be testing testing testing.
South Korea also test loads and have a remarkably low ICU/death rate
Italy has a relatively large elderly population which probably accounts for that.
If people want to go abroad, let them. The value of closing borders in stop the spread now is minimal. Some people have got difficult decisions to make in terms of caring or business needs. There's going to be minimal travel anyway.
You'll need to, erm, fudge the numbers.
The one thing I haven't seen from Germany is how many tests they have actually done.
Even this comprehensive report from Germany (Robert Koch) doesn't include testing numbers: https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ...chte/2020-03-16-en.pdf?__blob=publicationFile
It does show that their age distribution of confirmed cases is quite different to other countries, but that doesn't mean much alone. Italy's confirmed cases skew much high in terms of age.
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Yes I can, and have been so far!
Im fine here, just worried about not being able to get back to UK, if UK border closes or I cant get a flight back because airlines all shut down.
Having said that, situation also very fluid in this part of the world. Malaysia suddenly announced last night that they close their border to all foreigners.
Thailand has cancelled its huge new year festival 'Sonkran' on 1st April, enforced shut down of major tourist areas in Bangkok and the main 'sin street' in Phuket is also virtually empty. Lots of rumours about imminent announcements floating everywhere.
Cambodia has just announced it wont allow people from many counties (UK is OK).
Just like in Europe, things went abit nuts since Monday, because of what happened in Europe over weekend.
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Surely the opposite is the case - they are testing so much that the rate is brought down?
Yesterday's uk numbers of new infections was around 152 which is half of the previous days numbers. Why is this?
Ffs I thought Iran had closed the shrines a couple weeks ago: