Certainly. Nobody gives a shit, it appears. I'm very much in a minority when I go into a shop or bar wearing a mask.
Thanks I needed that!I do ask myself what use is putting on a mask to go into a bar/pub/whatever, only to then take it off when you're sat down. I must say, I just don't bother, but then again I limit my indoor socialising anyway.
Two people from my partners work have the same cold as do their partners. They’ve all had LF and PCR tests and all came back negative but they’ve had full covid symptoms.
One of them wanted to come back into work when he’d got his negative PCR
Yeah, i get that. Especially when you'd be in a tiny minority doing so anyway. As someone pointed out earlier, we're wearing masks for everyone else's benefit, so when it's less than 1 in 10 wearing one, any benefit is minimal.
I'm surprised that the old folk are so reluctant. Is it mistrust of the government or something like that?
There is significant amount of propaganda on the side effects of the deadly vaccine spread around in social media and outside of it. Many people here do not believe covid even exists and think it’s part of NWO. Much higher proportion than anywhere else I’ve seen.
What a shame. Well, all you can do is protect yourself and get a booster when you can.
You’re probably right but lateral flow tests are as useful as chocolate fireguards. I don’t know why they persist with them
They can`t be that bad , surely. They are talking about stopping requirement for PCR tests for overseas travel and only needing a lateral flow. Mind you do we really need to worry about testing anyone coming in to the UK with cases so high here compared to most other countries.
67% actually seems quite low to me, I would've thought 80+% given the protection of the vaccines and that 90% of over 12's are vaxxed now. @Pogue Mahone ?
Just personal opinion but I wouldn’t trust a result from a lateral flow test if it paid me
We don’t know the age range of the latest patients. Just guessing but maybe some are kids?
I think GB means 67% of those in ICU are unvaccinated, rather than 67% of the population. In other words you are a lot more likely to end up in ICU if you haven't had your vaccine.
No I know that, but with 90+% vaccine effectiveness and 90+% uptake from over 12's that seems like a pretty low number, going by the Math? Unless there actually are a lot of under 12's in ICU with it.
Right, sorry. Maybe people that don't get vaccinated are also people more likely not to look after themselves physically and so more likely to end up in ICU? I'm assuming you're right about the maths, I'm too lazy to do it!
That's a good point, there have been a lot of anti vax rallies in Ireland recently. Gobshites.
Fecking hell I totally missed that. I am thick.
That's a good way of looking at it, hadn't really considered that perspective.
Thanks, I was wondering when i read it. Yes there is some scaremongering happening here. All the epidemiologists here are wanting us to go back to our toughest restrictions, I think thats because their knowledge means they follow the data and outcomes very closely but i do wonder if they are also factoring the difficulties that happen with long tough restrictions. There is a real arm wrestle happening here with opinions on how to move forward.
It looks so easy when someone does it for you. Thanks.
Any idea of the number of people that are hospitalized October this year and October last year? Surely when you consider all the vaccinated and those who went through the illness there should be much less hospitalizations compared to year before?
Year on year comparisons won't work at the moment. This time last year we were looking at the European version of the virus. A couple of months later and we hit the Alpha variant - twice as infectious. 7 months after that we hit the Delta variant - twice as infectious as Alpha. Plus we've gone from "some measures" - like masks, controls over how many people could socialise, no crowds at football matches, entire classes of kids being sent home for one case etc etc to everything open.
