Or vaccinate them, as will be possible soon?
And you know that wasn't what BB was suggesting anyway. Stop being disingenuous.
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SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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Or vaccinate them, as will be possible soon?
And you know that wasn't what BB was suggesting anyway. Stop being disingenuous.
That's a nice chart seeing as I'm flying to Spain on Thursday.
Also not really surprising as we have incredible vaccination numbers mixed with being one of very few countries left with those sort of numbers with restrictions still in place.
Gotta be honest, I've no idea what a resilience score is based on, though!
It’s explained in the article linked. The higher the score the more “normal” a life we’re living while dealing with Delta. The fewer restrictions the better the score. Which is the opposite of what you seem to think is happening.
Side note. New Zealand currently all the way down in 38th place.
That's an odd take. I haven't said anything in here about our restrictions in Ireland since August 31st and that was actually advocating against reopening certain aspects of our society.
I think all in all everything is pretty good here right now, looking forward to the 22nd October though there's feck all happening then that impacts me really, guess it'll be nice to just walk into a pub/restaurant again and sit wherever and with whomever? That's mostly cause I feel sorry for the staff who are totally overworked trying to do table service!
Ah. Ok. Looks like I’ve misremembered your opinions. Sorry about that. We’ll call it even stevens after you posted about me being a lockdown fanatic!
that's not quite what I said but fine.I was overly critical of the government's slow approach to reopening earlier in the year but in fairness we've never had to reimpose restrictions after opening up and our vaccine programme was incredible so even though I despise FFG I think it's been pretty good overall and I'm optimistic for the winter*
*and dreading getting a cold
I was overly critical of the government's slow approach to reopening earlier in the year but in fairness we've never had to reimpose restrictions after opening up and our vaccine programme was incredible so even though I despise FFG I think it's been pretty good overall and I'm optimistic for the winter*
*and dreading getting a cold
sameIt’s interesting though. I only ever get maybe one cold/year. And that’s back in the days of licking people’s faces to say hello and coming into work absolutely streaming with germs. So you’d wonder if it will become even more a rarity now?
I was thinking this when I was in London last week. Spent most of my time in crowded tubes, restaurants and pubs. Came home with not a bother on me. And London is supposedly hopping with the ‘rona. You forget how it was possible to go months without catching any viruses at all, despite everyone around you being riddled with them. And covid isn’t all that much mode transmissible than the rest of them.
I'd usually get 2 or 3 a year and they tend to be bad enough to keep me out of work for a day, maybe, but I recover quick enough. Hard to know what it'll be like now having not had one for nearly 2 years!
It’s interesting though. I only ever get maybe one cold/year. And that’s back in the days of licking people’s faces to say hello and coming into work absolutely streaming with germs. So you’d wonder if it will become even more a rarity now?
I was thinking this when I was in London last week. Spent most of my time in crowded tubes, restaurants and pubs. Came home with not a bother on me. And London is supposedly hopping with the ‘rona. You forget how it was possible to go months without catching any viruses at all, despite everyone around you being riddled with them. And covid isn’t all that much mode transmissible than the rest of them.
Mad that you were in London and got nothing. I haven't either and I've been back home, in pubs, restaurants, visiting family (and their disease ridden kids!). Be interesting to see what happens in Spain. Guess it's true when Ryanair say their planes have the best air filtration systems though!
But yeah I'm convinced work is the biggest spreader of the lot, mainly because it's the one place people have always historically gone into when they actually have a fecking cold, cause people are really stupid. So I guess the most likely place for me to get one is when I am eventually back in the office. You'd hope Covid has changed the culture a bit now though and people actually do stay the feck at home when they have the sniffles.
It is very interesting that you choose to quote that post, despite the fact that the user already responded and addressed the point, whilst simultaneously you also fail to address any of the points I raised earlier here when discussing covid passports with you:
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/sar...lliness-please.452816/page-1516#post-27811675
Bonkers.
In ireland
under 12s account for 20% of current cases
https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/0929/1249612-virus-latest/
under 12s account for 20% of current cases
https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/0929/1249612-virus-latest/
Proof vaccines work. Also good news to have such a high % of cases in people who won’t get very sick.
I would still be very hesitant vaccinating <12s. It was a borderline enough decision for the >12s.
Ha.. hardly surprising. It’s a cliche but footballers are not the brightest. If there was ever a group of people that were gonna pop up with nanobots and Erectile dysfunction theories higher than the average group, it was going to be footballers.
If I was a manager I would be throwing coffee mugs at them when they spouted that. This is not an independent choice for them. Either get jabbed or find a new club/profession.
I can only guess that Kante is one of these anti vaxxers (silent or otherwise). In such a close PL season to miss a game when it could have been avoided is a serious breach. Like not bothering to wake up for training one day. Imagine Chelsea lose that game due to midfield and fall further behind.
Our transition to living with the virus will be slow until our vaccination numbers get higher. We just had an Irish expert on our news talking about how Ireland got things turned around, think there are some big lessons for us there. I bet we slide down a bit more as restrictions will carry on right up till xmas.
Yup. MMA fighters the same. Although at least they have the excuse of regular brain trauma.
7 days after symptoms began im starting to feel normal again, Ill say it again, thank feck for the jab, I really dont want to imagine how bad I would have been otherwise. Just the cabin fever to deal with now, missing the Mrs, the gap between the cushions on the sofa is starting to look very seductive.
Interesting the way some clubs (Leeds, Southampton, Wolves, Brentford) have excellent take up, while others are absolutely dreadful. They talk about clubs where players have too much power and influence being the problem. Wouldn’t surprise me at all if that’s the case at United.
At least give people a warning the link is to the Daily Mail. I and many others want to avoid giving them a click.
I wonder if it's a problem in other leagues. Spain's La Liga clubs all seem, publicly at least, committed to there idea of vaccinating all the players. Most of the players seem to have been vaccinated back in June/July time (or earlier with some of the international players, and players going to the Olympics).
Anyone heard more on what happening across Europe?
Unfortunately, the PL pattern seems not that far off the UK one for young men generally:
A lot remain convinced that they (and presumably their family and other close contacts) are not in any danger of serious illness (except when faced with a vaccine)
It's probably time to start applying the UK standard quarantine rules to footballers - quarantine on return from foreign trips, quarantine following a contact etc.
I can see the conspiracy theorists having a field day with this one already, given it's made by Merck, the makers of Ivermectin.
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Rescued from the Big Pharma medical industrial complex by....erm... Big Pharma
Definitely positive but will wait for full paper, peer review etc. Also good that its an oral medication.
https://www.merck.com/news/merck-an...to-placebo-for-patients-with-mild-or-moderat/
It's already started - I saw a claim that it "contains some of the same molecular qualities as ivermectin." I'm going to hazard a guess that the bit they share is the little plasticy capsule bit that keeps the drugs in.
Yeah, the devil will be in the detail. And there’s going to be a LOT of detail to unpick. Timing is going to be difficult to get right and safety profile will need to be excellent when the NNT is bound to be high. You’d also want to know if you see the same benefits in vaccinated people. Might end up being niched for the unvaccinated only. I’d also like to see oral antiviral therapies trialled as PEP. If someone catches covid you treat them and everyone else in the household.
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In fairness, they do look kinda similar - I see they both use Hs and Os.
Sorry, why is that?
Because they are a horrible, horrible, inflammatory right-wing rag.
Ok, I'll make sure to check with you on what sources are generally acceptable to link from
I'm not the only person on the forum who has posted that sentiment. I've seen a lot of it on here. And for good reason.Ok, I'll make sure to check with you on what sources are generally acceptable to link from
So, by the looks of it in many hospitals here used technical oxygen(or industrial) instead of clean medical for patient that needed in in last year or so, because the companies close to goverment couldn't provide licences and enough quantities for medical oxygen, but instead they supplied with industrial in secret without anyone checking. Considering the corrupted goverment trusted them, and the big companies that trade oxygen decided their earnings are more important than human lives, patients got industrial oxygen instead of medical.
(I am not sure if the terms for industrial/technical and medicals translate good in English, but I believe you lot will understand i
I wouldn't be surprised if this happened in many other countries, considering hardly anyone in hospitals knew the difference here until the political opposition showed the evidence considering we are coming into an election year. Week or two after showing the evidence many hospitals are still not sure which oxygen they got from which supplier.
(I am not sure if the terms for industrial/technical and medicals translate good in English, but I believe you lot will understand i
I wouldn't be surprised if this happened in many other countries, considering hardly anyone in hospitals knew the difference here until the political opposition showed the evidence considering we are coming into an election year. Week or two after showing the evidence many hospitals are still not sure which oxygen they got from which supplier.
Different world for them, they are in the leagues of Trump & Rogan if they get it they will get every treatment available and more then likely be over it in days not like you or me having to be on deaths door to get the chance of some of the treatments and even then it might be luck of the draw.
I love this idea. The whole "lemsip for covid" thing would be a great step forward. But I'll admit this drug makes me nervous - hopefully just because I'm unfamiliar with it.
At first sight though, the description of how it works is quite scary - scarier to me than the sound of the vaccines.
It's a treatment course that helps, provided it's delivered at the right time to the right people. What about when it doesn't help? Maybe because they took it too late or because the didn't complete the course or just because it didn't work for them. What will their particular mutant virus now look like?
Plus, it's an expensive product - maybe $700/course initially (though presumably that would fall fast if it sells at volume). Not as expensive as hospitalisation or antibody treatments - but certainly not lemsip! Giving it to targeted individuals (people who vaccines may not work on) would be an option, but that's going to need a bigger trial. Giving it to everyone is really only a runner (in most countries) if case rates are really low and testing and prescribing is done early.
It's not the sort of pill the average householder can keep in their cupboard in case their workmate tests positive, or if an LFT shows positive. Or, at least, it won't be for a long while.
So, I guess I'm a bit, "hmm, yeah, not sure," about this particular piece of news. Not about the principle though. I'm hoping we'll develop some great therapeutics - particularly ones which like this one have the potential to open the door to things like flu treatments as well. Hopefully this is the start of something big.