Bullying is bad. We all agree on that.
Nothing you’ve written in bold is relevant to that though.
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Bullying is bad. We all agree on that.
Nothing you’ve written in bold is relevant to that though.
People have the right to make shit choices on a daily basis. Doesn't mean we cant take the piss out of them for it.
My mate likes Carling for example. IMO he should also be banned from pubs.
Your pal’s a monster!
Taking the piss & telling someone they are a selfish piece of shit are very different things.
I was discussing this the other day with some mates, all of us for vaccination.
One wanted it to be compulsory, like many other vaccines are. Another kept banging on about freedom and right to a choice, but then kept elaborating carrots and sticks.
Personally, I'm of the opinion the latter is a slippery slope. I'd much rather governments owned up and made it compulsory than device ever more stringent rules against those making the "wrong" choice.
Just fecking say it, "we won't give you the choice because it's wrong". Some will rant and rave and then get on with life. I can't think of anything more totalitarian than hunting people down at every turn, using the full weight of the government's coercive powers "of persuasion" to break down someone's spirit. What's the fecking point? Mouthing off about freedom and smelling of roses, all the while torturing the "free"?
Sorry to hear that
They are selfish pieces of shit.
Didn’t a BBC radio host die due to a serious reaction after taking the AZ one? I suppose her family are selfish pieces of shit for wishing she didn’t get it?
Just be nice & understand other’s point of view. It’s not hard.
Did she? Do you have the link and more info on that?
That is really sad for her family. An unfortunate and unforseen set of circumstances leading to tragedy.
Traub's point stands though as you don't have to take AZ in most Western countries nowadays.
I'm far too polite to call someone a selfish piece of shit and I don't think it even encourages them to get vaccinated.
That said, individual circumstances are exactly that - they're about individuals. I'm sure her family wishes that she hadn't been vaxxed, or she'd got Pfizer or it had happened two months later when doctors and vaccine recipients would have recognised the symptoms quicker, and she'd have had a better chance of treatment.
Speaking as an individual who had three family members die of covid if I thought they'd caught it from someone choosing not to get vaxxed or choosing not to get tested or choosing not to quarantine then I'd be really pissed off - I might even think some really bad thoughts about the person who rejected the vax and "selfish piece of shit" might be amongst the milder ones. As it happens, they died before vaccines were available and were infected before anyone understood how widespread it was. So no, I don't get that opportunity.
On average, there's no group of people that the vaccines are available to who aren't safer vaxxed than unvaxxed, and aren't safer for the people around them if they are vaxxed.
Agreed.
Quality control
1 is too many.
Not if it's saving thousands? Not rocket science fella.
So 1 covid death is too many. The vaccines are preventing thousands. What a nonsense throwaway comment.
If your partner got the vaccine & died you wouldn’t be saying that.
You've lost me on this logic here so i'll leave you to it.
That's a glib and lazy comment. We all know that, what we can't do is stop it happening by making a wish.
If you really want zero covid deaths, you should support compulsory vaccination, mass lockdowns, ongoing border restrictions, continuous use of high quality facemasks in public places, and mass daily testing with enforced quarantine for positive tests and their contacts, with strong punishments for those breaking the rules.
Personally I don't. I'm surprised you do given that you've just asked us to stop calling the unvaxxed names.
So then let’s stop all modern medicine because pretty much every medication has killed someone inadvertently
Do you think you make the most logical decisions while dispassionate or while emotionally devastated?
What point are you actually trying to make here?
DNFTT
Absolutely years since I used that acronym.
Absolutely years since I used that acronym.
Had to Google that.
I thought you were smart. So genuine question, do you intend to discuss properly or are you here to troll?
If you want to discuss, I have a question. Will wait on your reply first.
Feck. Know I feel old.
I'm probably older than you. I am 40
1 death is too many with the vaccine, but >600,000 without it is okay?
Why in gods name would you have thought that?
I’d understand someone’s point if they have a medical reason for not doing so. Otherwise sorry I don’t understand their point and probably never will
To the unvaxxers.. have they ever taken any type of medication and read the side effects in the pamphlet?
my bp tablets for example said that a side effect may be “death” but I don’t see people mass protesting that.
my bp tablets for example said that a side effect may be “death” but I don’t see people mass protesting that.
Big penis tablets?
That is a silly argument. If someone died in a parachuting accident I'm sure their relatives would wish they hadn't gone parachuting that day but I'm fairly sure they wouldn't wish that people started throwing themselves out of planes without one.
I don’t know why so many anti vaxxers become so illogical
We are talking about a dramatic event that just raises somes questions about the side effects of a vaccine.
This tragic death has been really reported because she was a BBC journalist....
Otherwise - in no way - they would have communicated in this way
Time will tell but there are good reasons to think:
I'm sure their relatives would wish a parachuting activity better regulated or even forbidden.
This is how the average human being reacts.
This tragic death has been really reported because she was a BBC journalist....
Otherwise - in no way - they would have communicated in this way
Time will tell but there are good reasons to think:
- The vaccine efficacy is overrated
- The side effects are underrated
I'm sure their relatives would wish a parachuting activity better regulated or even forbidden.
This is how the average human being reacts.
Well let’s say their plane was in danger of crashing and the pilot thinks he might not get it under control and is a advising parachutes and jumping. Is someone going to say “I don’t trust parachutes, they are not designed to open. I will take my chances”
No one is going to say that right? Everyone is going to take a parachute and be glad off it