Yeah, agree with that second paragraph. “Scariants” are going to be an ongoing issue for the next while.
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Yeah, agree with that second paragraph. “Scariants” are going to be an ongoing issue for the next while.
Why is the NHS not getting all of this testing money? Why are private companies involved? We are self testing, and paying money to Companies to analyse. WHY? There is zero need for that.
If there was ever a case to have State intervention it’s here.
We will be testing to travel for at least two years. Centralise it. There are no counter points. I wouldn’t even go mad about Tory sleaze awarding all testing to one company if the price of tests went down to £5-15 a pop.
If there was ever a case to have State intervention it’s here.
We will be testing to travel for at least two years. Centralise it. There are no counter points. I wouldn’t even go mad about Tory sleaze awarding all testing to one company if the price of tests went down to £5-15 a pop.
There is no Corona in India any more. My city which had over 4200 cases during the peak in April, had only 2 cases today.
God knows what they have done with the testing.
There is no Corona in India any more. My city which had over 4200 cases during the peak in April, had only 2 cases today.
God knows what they have done with the testing.
That’s fascinating. Looks like the steep up/down curve we’re seeing in the UK really is a delta thing. How are the hospitals in India? Emptying out ok?
Can only tell about my city but in April there was a massive shortage of hospital beds and almost no intensive care beds available with hundreds dying daily. By the middle of May new cases started coming down to around 300 to 500 a day with availability of beds and resources improving rapidly. By the middle of June daily cases came down to below 100 and for almost a month now the cases for my city are below 15.
I think it's because so many people got infected in the April peak that the spread of the virus has slowed down massively. But if vaccination rates don't pick up, we might be in for another deadly wave.
Excellent news in NEJM regarding vaccines efficacy against Delta!!! While there is a slight decrease in efficacy, it is still incredibly high. Main takeaway is GET YOUR SECOND SHOT!
Effectiveness of Covid-19 Vaccines against the B.1.617.2 (Delta) Variant | NEJM
Effectiveness of Covid-19 Vaccines against the B.1.617.2 (Delta) Variant | NEJM
I understand it, and after the last year, we're easy to scare. I'm just conscious that in the UK we're at the point where around 93% of the adult population have covid antibodies - almost all of them from vaccination or vaccination + infection.
We're at the point where I don't know if we should offer incentives to get jabbed, or unvaxxed only super-spreader parties at night clubs - to get (most of) those last few percentage points.
The situation for kids is tougher, but I'm not as enthusiastic as some about assuming that it's appropriate to give them the same vaccine and dosage as adults. Fortunately they're also the group least likely to suffer serious illness from covid infection.
If mutations make (near) normal life too scary now, how many years are people planning to wait?
I'm also looking at Australia and their transition path to normality, and I see a long road ahead. I hope they can do some magic that gets them a 99% vaxxed population, any subsequent covid wave is a minor ripple and they never have to tell their population that it's endemic.
Meanwhile, they're trying to assist their citizens trying to return home by stopping them leaving. Until when?
The flight attendant that duct taped the idiot passenger deserves a medal and a daytime Emmy
Wow he looks so different compared to the video. Almost like it's two completely different people.
That's a Youtube comedian called The Real Spark: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkYmKSqZFBH8mPVjc48SZmw
Interesting study here. Pre-print with potential identification of an important, ubiquitous immunogenic target within most variants of concerns.
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.02.454546v1
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.02.454546v1
Amazing research. Pan coronavirus vaccines would protect against variants and whatever fecked up SARS-CoV3 virus is currently being cooked up in some cave full of bats somewhere.
Is that even real! He's like a character from Airplane v2.0! or something.
Sorry guys, it’s been a tough day and I was just trying to put something fun into the mix. My wife and about half the other ICU nurses have hit their breaking point with this new Covid surge. She put in her letter of resignation today, along with 2 others. They’re just burned out and I’m bummed out.
There really was a passenger duct taped though for general idiocy and refusing to wear a mask.
@decorawe have now had a 100% confirmed outdoor infection. An outbreak in Newcastle caused by an infected person from Sydney illegally travelling from Sydney to attend an equally illegal beach party.
Aw man I'm sorry
So that’s Sydney in full lockdown for 6 weeks now? Feels like Australia is now going through what everyone went through, only one year later.
They can never be thanked enough for what they have done, and if they've reached their breaking point there's no shame in that, it must have been incredibly tough.
Delta plus NSW's unwillingness to lock down properly makes me think that we won't eliminate again. With #scottyfrommarketing fecking up vaccine procurement we could have blown elimination until vaccination is more universal with makes the next 6 to 12 months shit.
It seems to me that Australian citizens are being treated with contempt. Meanwhile, rich foreigners can still come and go without too much difficulty.
130k cases in the US yesterday? How bad is it in terms of hospitalization?
I read (a few days back) that 97% of hospitalizations and 99.5% deaths were people who hadn't been vaccinated.. Considering 70% of the adults have had at least 1 doze, the latest surge cant last that long.. surely..
Is it far worse in pockets where people refuse to get vaccinated or is it bad all over?
I read (a few days back) that 97% of hospitalizations and 99.5% deaths were people who hadn't been vaccinated.. Considering 70% of the adults have had at least 1 doze, the latest surge cant last that long.. surely..
Is it far worse in pockets where people refuse to get vaccinated or is it bad all over?
My mates got me a ticket for the Charlton game later today. I’m only single vaccinated at the moment. I’ll wear a mask and have lots of hand sanitiser on me but you think it will be ok or should I cancel?
Impossible to give you a definitive answer. The single dose will give you some protection. The longer ago it was, the more protection you have. Your decision will depend on your own appetite for risk and whether you think you’re likely to get a bad outcome from covid (age, underlying conditions etc)
Although ultimately the most important factor might be how much of a bummer it will be to watch Charlton beat Arsenal
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Best video I’ve seen in a long time!! I hope he gets to keep his job and they don’t discipline him for using duct tape
Best video I’ve seen in a long time!! I hope he gets to keep his job and they don’t discipline him for using duct tape
I really enjoy reading the stories of all these anti vaxers who spread so much bullsh*t about it's all a hoax and creating trouble etc and then reading they all died from Covid.
I bet Corbyn got vaccinated secretly hence, he hasn't croaked yet.
I guess if you're gonna die, then standing by your delusions is the way to go.
I bet Corbyn got vaccinated secretly hence, he hasn't croaked yet.
I guess if you're gonna die, then standing by your delusions is the way to go.
Impossible to give you a definitive answer. The single dose will give you some protection. The longer ago it was, the more protection you have. Your decision will depend on your own appetite for risk and whether you think you’re likely to get a bad outcome from covid (age, underlying conditions etc)
Although ultimately the most important factor might be how much of a bummer it will be to watch Charlton beat Arsenal
Thanks for the reply. Just to note it’s not Charlton v arsenal. Our season starts next week although I can see why would think we Arsenal are currently in league one.
Other than being a bit of a smoker I have no underlying health issues, in my early 30’s and had my first vaccine several weeks ago so all in all I should be fine.
What do you think the chances of catching it at a football match are? The club says it’s not enforcing the wearing of masks which is a bit of worry. If I did catch it I should be alright but I’d rather not risk it for a football match so I think I may cancel.
Thanks for the reply. Just to note it’s not Charlton v arsenal. Our season starts next week although I can see why would think we Arsenal are currently in league one.
Other than being a bit of a smoker I have no underlying health issues, in my early 30’s and had my first vaccine several weeks ago so all in all I should be fine.
What do you think the chances of catching it at a football match are? The club says it’s not enforcing the wearing of masks which is a bit of worry. If I did catch it I should be alright but I’d rather not risk it for a football match so I think I may cancel.
Are you living with anyone from in the vulnerable groups? That would be something to consider as well I think
Thanks for the reply. Just to note it’s not Charlton v arsenal. Our season starts next week although I can see why would think we Arsenal are currently in league one.
Other than being a bit of a smoker I have no underlying health issues, in my early 30’s and had my first vaccine several weeks ago so all in all I should be fine.
What do you think the chances of catching it at a football match are? The club says it’s not enforcing the wearing of masks which is a bit of worry. If I did catch it I should be alright but I’d rather not risk it for a football match so I think I may cancel.
Honestly, hard to know how likely you ars to catch it at a match. The actual sitting in the stands bit is relatively safe. It’s when you’re queuing to get in, of to get a pie/beer that you’re more at risk.
As I said, it’s all about your own appetite for risk. If you’ve decided not to go to the gym, or pubs, or restaurants until fully vaccinated then the consistent thing to do would be to not go to the match. If you’re already doing all that other stuff then a match won’t really change your overall risk that much.
Hospitalisations are rising and are more or less tracking lower vaccination levels. Texas has about 8k people hospitalised and cases are still rising. Florida has gone over 12k.
The US is so big that there have always been surges in some places while other places are quiet, but it certainly looks like they've entered a major wave of cases and illness, particularly amongst the unvaxxed.
Demographic data isn't as easy to track as in the UK. Basically if those hospitals are filling with unvaxxed over 70s then death rates are going to turn very nasty. If it's with unvaxxed under 40s and double vaxxed over 70s, then it'll be a massive strain on the hospitals, but the deaths might not rise in the same way.
7 fully vaxxed elderly patients died from the Colombia variant in NL
Thanks for the reply. Just to note it’s not Charlton v arsenal. Our season starts next week although I can see why would think we Arsenal are currently in league one.
Other than being a bit of a smoker I have no underlying health issues, in my early 30’s and had my first vaccine several weeks ago so all in all I should be fine.
What do you think the chances of catching it at a football match are? The club says it’s not enforcing the wearing of masks which is a bit of worry. If I did catch it I should be alright but I’d rather not risk it for a football match so I think I may cancel.
How long is a piece of string? It's an impossible question though early in the pandemic football matches were shown to be huge breeding grounds for Covid in place like Bergamo. However, data from the vaccine trials shows you should have a very good level of protection from around 14 days in even with 1 dose. If it were me, I would go but be sure to exercise caution. Even now I am fully vaccinated I still wear filter masks when I go anywhere higher risk.
Graph is from Pfizer but Moderna is almost identical. Dose 2 was given 21 days in.
How are things in Tenerife ? Is it settled there or are cases rising?
Interesting thread. Still good to see vaccines very effective against hospitalizations and deaths.
II’ve thought that herd immunity was off the table since delta became dominant. Still depressing to see it confirmed like this. Is Iceland fully open now?
North Land?
Don't know. I'm from USA.
I'm more than happy with vaccine efficacy with regards to hospitalizations and deaths. The data from Iceland conforms to that.
Yeah, same. Although surging cases will inevitably make governments nervous. Which could cause backward steps in our return to normality. Which would be a shame.
I would say in USA there is a consistent messaging from a lot of public health people I follow on social media (maybe a source of bias for me) that vaccines have been very effective and the focus should be on hospitalizations and deaths. And I think this govt at least gets that. If I am not mistaken Andy Slavit who headed their task force till recently is along those lines. So I am not worried that US govt will worry about cases and go backwards.
Our battle is getting people vaccinated in the first place. As you well know.