That rise happened before Christmas. We’ll surely only see that rise in the next week.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
- Thread starter Don't Kill Bill
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arrested over alleged breach of coronavirus regulations between 26 and 29 September
So another lockdown. Hopefully it has an end date we can focus on.
Also does everyone mind not being dicks and having protests, raves and large gatherings? My jobs hard enough without making it even more difficult and creating more risks.
Cheers.
Also does everyone mind not being dicks and having protests, raves and large gatherings? My jobs hard enough without making it even more difficult and creating more risks.
Cheers.
Yeah, luck definitely played a bigger part in the first wave than was believed at the time. See also places like the Czech Republic getting so much praised for masks etc then absolutely decimated when they got hit with a proper surge.
What do you propose as an alternative to protesting if you believe the government is endangering the public through its mismanagement of the situation, and you believe the situation will not resolve itself until the government is given a clear message directly from the public that it’s no longer tolerable?
We had quite decent weather in April/May as well so it was altogether easier to just sit in the garden and wait it out. We’re going to really struggle through this winter but we need to go back to the relatively easy things we were doing before. If people won’t distance properly in the supermarkets, and in my experience they won’t, then they need to be restricting the numbers again. Waiting outside is shit but it’s not going to kill anyone. Aside from closing schools, we’re running low on any other options.
Crisis management 101, communicate clearly - and here's this guy talking like a Day Today character during a pandemic. Honestly, when this is over we need a drastic rethink about how we decide who gets to govern this country as electing the most conveniently placed toff has been disastrous since the Tories got back into power.
Difficult to see how we get rid of them. Labour have been screwed since they lost Scotland.
Yes, down with that sort of thing.
Might there not be a problem with protestors who want exactly the opposite 'solution' to each other?
The whole system seems to be setup perfectly for the tories. The more damage they do in westminster, the more votes labour loses from the colonies, sorry, Scotland and Wales.
Preferably not hundreds, maybe thousands, of folk randomly marching through the city and fighting with me and my colleagues.
A legitimate planned socially distanced protest with a start and end time sure. Go ahead .
That and the loss of Labour voters over Brexit has fecked us. Moving to Scotland is already appealing but I'd happily walk there if they ever decided to cut themselves adrift of this basket case of a government.
I feel like I'm never going to end up getting my driving licence at this rate. 
Frustrating but if it's needed, it is needed. Super grateful that I still have a job and can focus on that.
Frustrating but if it's needed, it is needed. Super grateful that I still have a job and can focus on that.
From a purely selfish point of view I hope you can still move home. I am due to move later this month. With that said we need to get a handle on this so what will be will be.
I think you'll be able to move but it's the other stuff you need to do around it that's a pain in the arse.
Tier 5 means Maldini and Baresi will be defending your front door!
You could in the first lockdown, back in March.
You would hope they could gain some of that back once people see how Brexit pans out and can see they were lied to.
Not looking forward to balancing home schooling and full time job. Hope these morons breaking Covid rules are happy.
FYI - this post was before Christmas.
Who could have seen it coming? Except the bloke standing next to the prime minister telling him what was coming, on live television...and almost anyone else with common sense.
Also FYI case numbers here have barely gone up at all since we went into tier 4...and I don't mean as in they've stopped going up because we're in tier 4...they rate of increase began to decline, and then we went into tier 4. They literally waited until it made next to no difference to do it.
Or the government could have put everyone into tigther restrictions weeks before Christmas like they should have done and like everyone looking at the figures was telling them to do, and easily avoided all of this and not cost thousands of people their lives.
No one "broke" any of the restrictions around here, because until case numbers were over 1,000 per every 100,000, we didn't even really have any.
I wish people would wise up to how stupid it is to blame the odd idiot when it's just completely blatant that this is a fairly insignificant factor in the problem
Yes I should have added about the Government as well. As per my earlier posts, I am no fan and think they are incompetent beyond belief but in terms of rule breaking, it is certainly beyond the odd idiot. Every bit contributes to the problem.
Does seem like it’s been government policy to give ourselves just enough rope to hang ourselves. They’re desperate for us to blame each other rather than them, and yeah, idiots gonna idiot, but Boris and his cabal have far more blood on their hands than some random group of people having a small party at New Year.
Fully agree that the Government's handling has been atrocious and they are the main culprit in all of this however these people who have broken rules shouldn't be given a free ride to absolve themselves of any responsibility.
Do you have symptoms or just a positive test result?
Me too!
Thank you. Thank you thank you thank you.
The government have handled this appalling, per capita we're still one if not the worst in the world for deaths.
Baring in mind the UK were not the first to be hit, infact multiple countries were hit first. It doesn't take a fecking genius to realise that when a country starts mass producing fecking hospitals that something serious is going down.
Being an ISLAND *should be an advantage* one that hasn't been exploited at all during this entire covid period by the UK.
The government should of done more to punish those that broke the rules whether that be their buddies or anyone within the country. Fines should of been handed out like fecking candy to those going on a jolly.
Seriously those cnuts in Brittany should be jailed, set an example and people will be less likely to break the rules and 1000s of lives could of been saved if this had been from the start.
Baring in mind the UK were not the first to be hit, infact multiple countries were hit first. It doesn't take a fecking genius to realise that when a country starts mass producing fecking hospitals that something serious is going down.
Being an ISLAND *should be an advantage* one that hasn't been exploited at all during this entire covid period by the UK.
The government should of done more to punish those that broke the rules whether that be their buddies or anyone within the country. Fines should of been handed out like fecking candy to those going on a jolly.
Seriously those cnuts in Brittany should be jailed, set an example and people will be less likely to break the rules and 1000s of lives could of been saved if this had been from the start.
That’s been apparent since they first lifted restrictions in the summer. They’re absolutely delighted to sit back and watch people tear themselves apart, blaming each other. Four more years minimum of these cnuts.
Can't smell anything whatsoever, the "runs", bad sinus pain & headache (as of today), fatigue, muscle pain
Oh yeah based on what happened last time with BLM, and the fact people care much more about this, if there were significant protests on one side a counter protest would quickly follow, and very possibly get violent. A lot of people near breaking point at this stage.
Then again if it was just a bunch of people telling the government they’re shit, the unifying message of what to do about it might not be there, but a unifying message that what we’re doing right now is clearly the worst of both worlds could have an impact too. Maybe they’ll all be singing kumbaya in solidarity over the incompetence of this government.
Fair enough, can’t argue with that!
This is what annoys me the most. We literally could’ve stopped significant importation of the virus had we acted quickly, closed the borders to non-nationals & required returning nationals (or those with rights to live/work/study) to quarantine in hotels rather than relying on people to self-quarantine themselves. They left the borders open, don’t test anyone coming in & think people will actually self-quarantine without contact with anyone else.
It’s been a half-arsed reactive approach since the start & almost a year later they’ve shown nothing to suggest they know what they’re doing. It’s the tremendous efforts of the scientists that they’ve managed to develop a vaccine so quickly that will hopefully give us an out of this horrible situation, but even now the govt isn’t providing any confidence that the roll-out will go as well as they claim. Bunch of dangerously incompetent idiots.
Johnson could've made the gravity of the situation crystal clear by sacking Cummings for flouting the rules but his 'we're all in this together' rhetoric was fatally undermined the minute he let that slide - only to push him out 6 months later anyway.
The combination of muddled thinking, mixed messages and cronyism has made this situation much worse than it needed to be. And that's not letting individuals off the hook, it's just the wider context.
Bloody hell he’s on time
Blaming the new variant... predictable.
About 15 seconds before a lie