SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

Have you asked your GP about heparin injections? You self-adminster them in your stomach. I had (bad) phlebitis in the summer in numerous leg veins and the GP (in Italy) prescribed those straight away. I had a three-week course and have been taking aspirin ever since.
I haven`t Penna . I am at the beginning of the process really , I was really ill last February with what may have been covid , my wife was hospitalised for a week with breathing difficulties after we both caught what we thought at the time was flu off my son who was sharing digs with some chinese that had been home for Christmas . He is 21 and never ill and it really walloped him too. Ever since I have struggled with walking up hills , my right leg is screaming for oxygen so my GP sent me for a doppler test and it showed my right leg had 25% less blood pressure to my other three limbs . I have been referred to vascular but cos of covid no joy so far .
 
There is zero evidence of that provided in your link.

I'm not sure why you keep doing this. I presented some new data, with the associated analysis, and my own viewpoint. I didn't do it to snipe at anyone. I agree with you that schools play a role in transmission. I agree with you that the government should consider closing secondary schools.

Why do you need to go on the attack every time someone suggests there's some nuances worth discussing on the subject, with some new data? I'm not attacking your view. You're welcome to it. I agree there is ambiguity. Data removes some of that but not much. There's plenty of room for discussion. And you said yourself you have no desire to get drawn into some weird argument about it. Yet you follow up on the next post, and the next post, and the next. I'll pass on that.
 
I haven`t Penna . I am at the beginning of the process really , I was really ill last February with what may have been covid , my wife was hospitalised for a week with breathing difficulties after we both caught what we thought at the time was flu off my son who was sharing digs with some chinese that had been home for Christmas . He is 21 and never ill and it really walloped him too. Ever since I have struggled with walking up hills , my right leg is screaming for oxygen so my GP sent me for a doppler test and it showed my right leg had 25% less blood pressure to my other three limbs . I have been referred to vascular but cos of covid no joy so far .
Jesus. That sounds horrendous
hope that you get an appointment soon and they can come up with a suitable plan for you
 
What are the police supposed to be enforcing on the road though?
Well, we have forms to fill in if we have to travel outside the local area for work or emergency. You have to carry the form with you and have ID. You might get stopped or you might not, but if you're stopped and you're travelling when you shouldn't be, you'll get fined.
 
On the graph breakdown today, Wales have added 11k, it's normally around 2-3k.

Could be those missing cases added in Wales
Yes there has been some kind of IT issue producing today's numbers that had been left off previously so they warned everyone what was coming.
 
I'm not sure why you keep doing this. I presented some new data, with the associated analysis, and my own viewpoint. I didn't do it to snipe at anyone. I agree with you that schools play a role in transmission. I agree with you that the government should consider closing secondary schools.

Why do you need to go on the attack every time someone suggests there's some nuances worth discussing on the subject, with some new data? I'm not attacking your view. You're welcome to it. I agree there is ambiguity. Data removes some of that but not much. There's plenty of room for discussion. And you said yourself you have no desire to get drawn into some weird argument about it. Yet you follow up on the next post, and the next post, and the next. I'll pass on that.
Because you aren’t interested in discussion, merely presenting a flawed defence of your initial position and telling anyone who says otherwise they are wrong. It’s an emotive subject.
 
I'm sorry to hear about your family's problems, @djembatheking. Sounds like you've had a tough time. It's always worth ringing the hospital and just explaining your difficulties, or going back to your GP again.

I realise the NHS is overwhelmed right now, but people still need attention for other conditions, too.
 
Random stop checks. See what people are up to. It’s the presence of authority that’s needed in these situations not necessarily action.

Feels more like a vanity exercise than anything else. A waste of police resources.
 
Feels more like a vanity exercise than anything else. A waste of police resources.
Not really, we had police check points and police on the roads during our lockdown back in March. They operated with an education first approach and only fined multiple repeat offenders. It worked well, it wasnt onerous and the general public didnt react badly to it. Also we had less crime during our lockdown in general so ploce resources were doing more community based work. Also it gave the general public who were trying to do there bit by following the rules more confidence that the less responsible werent just doing whatever they wanted. Not a waste of Police resources at all, in fact the opposite.
 
Not really, we had police check points and police on the roads during our lockdown back in March. They operated with an education first approach and only fined multiple repeat offenders. It worked well, it wasnt onerous and the general public didnt react badly to it. Also we had less crime during our lockdown in general so ploce resources were doing more community based work. Also it gave the general public who were trying to do there bit by following the rules more confidence that the less responsible werent just doing whatever they wanted. Not a waste of Police resources at all, in fact the opposite.

Works fine in other countries, it just wouldn't work with the limited police resources we have here.
 
Bollocks,
it would absolutely work there. Ive lived there a couple of times over the years and was last there just 2 years ago. I was also born there. It would absolutely work there, the police resources are strong enough to handle it with ease. Utter bollocks.
 
Bollocks,
it would absolutely work there. Ive lived there a couple of times over the years and was last there just 2 years ago. I was also born there. It would absolutely work there, the police resources are strong enough to handle it with ease. Utter bollocks.

When was the last time you lived here?

Border check doesn't work here, Wales introduced it in their circuit breaker lockdown and they're now having to go back into another circuit breaker after Xmas. It doesn't reduce the infection rate.

It's complete waste of police resource, and there is no law currently to enforce. Only guidance.
 
Taking parts of Surrey out of tier 3 while it has higher rates than parts of South Manchester. Blatant via towards regions where MPs and affluent political influencers live.
 
When was the last time you lived here?

Border check doesn't work here, Wales introduced it in their circuit breaker lockdown and they're now having to go back into another circuit breaker after Xmas. It doesn't reduce the infection rate.

It's complete waste of police resource, and there is no law currently to enforce. Only guidance.
I was last there in 2018. I have tons of family there and tons of friends there.
You have only very slightly less police per 100000 people than we do. Its down to just a couple of Police less per 100000. The lack of Police resources is not a serious argument, its just completely untrue. You have a big enough Police presence. Even if there is no law to enforce Police presence helping with guidelines is valuable. There is less traffic on the road during a lockdown, less people out in the street, especially during your winter and Police do more than just chase criminals down the high street. A waste of Police resources is also a poor argument, Police interacting with the public is always a good thing. Police in the community helps ease barriers for some. The term vanity project is one of those terms chucked around when someone doesnt have a quantifiable set of arguments.
You are just spouting utter Bollocks. Complete and utter Bollocks.
 
Taking parts of Surrey out of tier 3 while it has higher rates than parts of South Manchester. Blatant via towards regions where MPs and affluent political influencers live.

South Manchester hospitals are near to capacity, pointless for them to be in tier two.
 
I was last there in 2018. I have tons of family there and tons of friends there.
You have only very slightly less police per 100000 people than we do. Its down to just a couple of Police less per 100000. The lack of Police resources is not a serious argument, its just completely untrue. You have a big enough Police presence. Even if there is no law to enforce Police presence helping with guidelines is valuable. There is less traffic on the road during a lockdown, less people out in the street, especially during your winter and Police do more than just chase criminals down the high street. A waste of Police resources is also a poor argument, Police interacting with the public is always a good thing. Police in the community helps ease barriers for some. The term vanity project is one of those terms chucked around when someone doesnt have a quantifiable set of arguments.
You are just spouting utter Bollocks. Complete and utter Bollocks.

No one has yet given a good enough reason as to how police doing checks on county borders will decrease infection rates. I'm all ears, but yet community policing (which you're referring to, not actual border checks which is what was proposed) is just business as usual, is not going to reduce the infection rates. This is why it's a vanity project, to look as though you're doing something but the actual impact of your efforts make no contribution to a reduction. There's an argument for the very beginning of the pandemic, or when we're in complete lockdown, but now? Pointless.
 

Yeah the TSA produce the numbers daily here. They did get past 40% of last year's for a few days but never above 50%, and they had already gotten over 40% last year's figures at the beginning of November and end of October. Even just a few days ago it was near 40% capacity so the spike at Thanksgiving was overblown. The average for November was 37%, in October it was 32%, and for December it's at 35%. Things haven't changed that much since the summer.
 
Yeah the TSA produce the numbers daily here. They did get past 40% of last year's for a few days but never above 50%, and they had already gotten over 40% last year's figures at the beginning of November and end of October. Even just a few days ago it was near 40% capacity so the spike at Thanksgiving was overblown. The average for November was 37%, in October it was 32%, and for December it's at 35%. Things haven't changed that much since the summer.
Thanks!
 
Speechless- most areas near me have gone tier 3- oh but apparently the hunt will still be meeting in tier 3 areas with tier 3 people?! How is that allowed!
 
You got a link for comparative hospital capacity across the various counties?

No sadly not unfortunately, it's pretty much local press that gives some indicators, this below is one re: Tameside/Oldham. Official data sources just gives total admissions. My other half works at Trafford Hospital, and has siblings which work at Wythenshawe and Salford Royal. Everything they're saying makes me think that it was right to keep tier three status here. If the case rate increases it'll put them back significantly, and they're still not recovering from the spike in early November.

This is why it's still in Tier 3, from a Tameside MP as well - https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...anchesters-hospitals-struggling-keep-19455621

Case rate falls can't be looked at in isolation as an answer to the current tier level.
 
No sadly not unfortunately, it's pretty much local press that gives some indicators, this below is one re: Tameside/Oldham. Official data sources just gives total admissions. My other half works at Trafford Hospital, and has siblings which work at Wythenshawe and Salford Royal. Everything they're saying makes me think that it was right to keep tier three status here. If the case rate increases it'll put them back significantly, and they're still not recovering from the spike in early November.
No worries, yes I don't necessarily disagree with tier 3. But I think it is being dropped to tier 2 in areas close to government when it probably shouldn't.

Reality is we probably should have a national lockdown rather than the tier system. Germany for example have implemented a more logical solution for Christmas.
 
Lockdown ma
No worries, yes I don't necessarily disagree with tier 3. But I think it is being dropped to tier 2 in areas close to government when it probably shouldn't.

Reality is we probably should have a national lockdown rather than the tier system. Germany for example have implemented a more logical solution for Christmas.

Lockdown 3 coming early Jan for a month at least...but again as has been the case throughout this...it's going to be too little and too late.
 
Lockdown ma

Lockdown 3 coming early Jan for a month at least...but again as has been the case throughout this...it's going to be too little and too late.

I saw a post from a whistleblower a couple of days back that has been spot on about everything so far and he is stating, with absolute certainty, that it has already been decided that whole of the UK will go back into a full lockdown in January.
 
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I seem to remember reading something along the lines of Japan doing better in spite of the Government and am I correct that Japan have only tested in clusters?

Tokyo on average has 8000 tests done daily. There are theories as to why its so low. This results in less positive tests.

Having said that Tokyo hit 800 positives yesterday a big jump in just a month and it seems nationally there are around 50 daily deaths. (not 100% on that)

Things are developing here but nowhere near like Europe.