So, Brexit?
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
- Thread starter Don't Kill Bill
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First famous person to get it? At least in the UK.
I hope she gets well soon, and at the same time - I hope such a high profile case will alert the governmental powers that be, that none of us are safe from this.
I hope she gets well soon, and at the same time - I hope such a high profile case will alert the governmental powers that be, that none of us are safe from this.
I'm not down for most of the schadenfreude relating to this absolute nightmare. But you can't tell me this isn't funny.
There is a very interesting timelapse map with casea since the start, but I don't think I know how to embedd that thing.
You can see it on top of r/medicine
You can see it on top of r/medicine
Seems you've done it without trying!
Zero cases in Turkey with so many in the countries around them. Are their borders shut or just not reporting any data at all?
1. ECDC provides no source, i.e. cites no studies whatsoever.
2. ECDC is an EU agency. I'd expect them to say whatever your health minister would say.
Besides, their only definitive claim is that it's "costly", which I suspect is the real reason. What the government presented is an unsupported claim. So you're not asking me for an evidence that supports an assertion I made that undermines an evidence that they have presented; rather, you're asking me to provide an evidence that supports the negation of their claim. That's not how it works, I'm afraid. You keep appealing to their authority again, but I wouldn't trust any government advisor or agency to not be pressured to tweak their views for whatever policy the government is pushing. In fact, many people have quit over the years because they were being asked of that.
Now, this conversation is dragging. Go and try to find any peer-reviewed scientific publication that supports what the government is claiming. I very much doubt it exists.
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Think they literally just got one.
Erdogan.
Seriously though, it’s obviously extremely suspicious. The government is repressive in many ways, but the society is still open enough that I find it hard to imagine they’d be able to successfully conceal dozens or hundreds of these cases for much longer (if indeed that’s what is happening).
What's Norway's deal? Too fancy pants to give an answer?
Seriously though, it’s obviously extremely suspicious. The government is repressive in many ways, but the society is still open enough that I find it hard to imagine they’d be able to successfully conceal dozens or hundreds of these cases for much longer (if indeed that’s what is happening).
It's them Theodosian Walls stopping the virus from invading.
Look at us Portuguese clean folks, eh?
Seriously though, it’s obviously extremely suspicious. The government is repressive in many ways, but the society is still open enough that I find it hard to imagine they’d be able to successfully conceal dozens or hundreds of these cases for much longer (if indeed that’s what is happening).
Nation of liars, is what you are.
They would if you’d failed a temperature test. Grow up. You’re an adult. Look after yourself and others.
People like you dumbfound me.
Stop fcuking complaining. All of the advice and guidance is there. Take control of your own life.
Bua £2-20 thermometer of any description. If you feel like shit and you have a high temperature... escalate.
Why the Fcuk are you trusting an online questionnaire. This is your life. Your families and friends life. Wise up.
Visited those couple of weeks ago. Impressive fecking walls, must be said
As someone else suggested I think the social distancing and look after yourself advice has already started working in England. At the match on Sunday, people seemed to be spending longer (and using more soap) watching their hands than I've ever seen before in public toilets.
While the TV play it up as hoarding (and there probably is some of that) most people are probably just heeding the "prepare" advice and trying to make sure they've a week's worth of food in the cupboard.
I suspect that as of now there will be more work absences/working from home requests for a "bit of a cold" than normal. People are cancelling holiday plans or postponing them. A trade show I was going to at the end of March (at the NEC) has been cancelled today. Same with a couple of other techie events.
When we get told to stay home if we've got a cough, or stop visiting granny if a workmate has got a fever, or avoid crowds if you are a granny, or indeed told that a football match is off - more people are mentally prepared. Hopefully peer group pressure on the ones who aren't bothered will be higher, bad employers well be getting exposed on TV.
It all adds up to a more compliant population, rather than a complacent one. At any rate, I reckon that's part of why "don't rush into the dramatic actions" is still the public health advice for the government in the UK.
While the TV play it up as hoarding (and there probably is some of that) most people are probably just heeding the "prepare" advice and trying to make sure they've a week's worth of food in the cupboard.
I suspect that as of now there will be more work absences/working from home requests for a "bit of a cold" than normal. People are cancelling holiday plans or postponing them. A trade show I was going to at the end of March (at the NEC) has been cancelled today. Same with a couple of other techie events.
When we get told to stay home if we've got a cough, or stop visiting granny if a workmate has got a fever, or avoid crowds if you are a granny, or indeed told that a football match is off - more people are mentally prepared. Hopefully peer group pressure on the ones who aren't bothered will be higher, bad employers well be getting exposed on TV.
It all adds up to a more compliant population, rather than a complacent one. At any rate, I reckon that's part of why "don't rush into the dramatic actions" is still the public health advice for the government in the UK.
I can tell you it isn't funny. At all for that matter.
I'd appreciate a river.
Freddo Escobar hath spoken.
Oh, I stand corrected.
No, hang on, it's still funny.
EDIT - Visions of Boris having to self-isolate and doing a national address from his bedroom.
You're right, this conversation is dragging and I'm sleepy so I'm tapping out.
Though as a parting shot I will point out that I also asked for evidence for the government's claims in the post you quoted, so there was no assumption on my part that they were correct. If they were here I would have asked them for evidence too, which I rather suspect they would have found easier to provide given they know what they're talking about.
Anyway, 'night.
I hope you're right. I don't have a whole lot of faith in control measures being in the public's hands (carry on and keep washing your hands) and I'd rather we had robust controls at this point (no crowds, no sport etc) - but I suppose it's *something* that some people are taking notice.
She lives with her 84 year old mother who has started showing symptoms.
That's not funny. But the fact she's been all over no. 10 is.
Okay then. Who do you recon this health minister spends her working day with? Senior and junior health officials I bet. Oh and on many occasions hundreds of hospital staff. If you think that's some great big joke then fair enough but I don't. Wash your fecking legs.
No it's not, firstly - I don't think any reasonable person really wishes illness upon their political enemies.
But more seriously, all those people in number 10 are going to become 'spreaders' themselves, and plenty of those victims will have no political connection to them at all.
Does that help with preventing Corona virus?
Quick question, unrelated of anything you two/three are talking about, are you actually victim if you simply contract Coronavirus?
KLM has basically waived all cancellation and change costs regardless of fare type if you’re flying before may 31 ... good to see some companies taking the extra step
Let's all laugh with @DiseaseOfTheAge , the absolute legend who thinks it's funny that the people who we are depending on to attempt to deal with this virus are getting ill from it. It will be doubly funny when the health officials supposed to be coordinating the response get it too.
I reckon she went to number 10. As we've been told she did.
All us normal people are getting exposed to this. It's funny that the elite who are choosing to let it worsen over their economic fetish are facing it too.
I'd say so yes. You might not die, but you're still a victim. And your relatives might die. I'd say every sufferer is a victim in some way, whether it's from getting poorly and feeling like shit, or from having to self isolate, or from infecting somebody you care about who does die.
Glad you're finally getting it.
Seriously though, it’s obviously extremely suspicious. The government is repressive in many ways, but the society is still open enough that I find it hard to imagine they’d be able to successfully conceal dozens or hundreds of these cases for much longer (if indeed that’s what is happening).
I'd say there is a good bit of truth to that map. Honestly speaking, I've found personal hygiene in some European countries to be seriously lacking, as if hand washing was a trend that they think should have faded after the 70s.
There may well be some cases popping up here soon (think one was confirmed) but the population as a whole is already very aware of the threat and taking some precautions. Anybody seen to be flouting hygiene rules could find themselves in for a verbal slap (no literal slaps because why would you touch somebody like that at this moment in time).
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haha, yep, never seen a queue to wash your hands at Old Trafford before.