We could loan him back for a season or two. If not, he can easily play RW and cut inside onto his left foot, his choices aren't just LB or LW, the kid has time to learn new positions.
Ryan Sessegnon
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We'll probably end up with another Young ie someone who does a decent job against the small teams only to crumble against the top dogs. If we need a LB then we should buy a LB
Started the season as a LB but then moved to LW, which makes his stats all the more ridiculous.
Sessegnon + 1 then. But either way I wouldn't mind him playing at LB or LW is what I'm saying. I just want him to sign for us.
I am not against us signing him, especially if Martial is leaving. However for United's, England's and the player's sake lets stop bringing in players only to play them out of position. Its one thing moving players in a different role because we've got no choice (ex Valencia moving as RB as he became too crap to play as a RW) and its another choosing to do that from day 1. If we need a LB then we buy a LB.
I mean it's not out of the question he goes on to play at left back. He played there for youth teams, plays there for Englands youth teams and played there for the Fulham first team more than left wing. He's as much a left back as a left midfielder at the moment. It wouldn't be similar to buying a career long left midfielder and sticking him in the defence.
With all due respect to all posters, this kid is so good that you just sign him and then worry about how and where to deploy him. This is especially true if some of our direct rivals are also interested.
He reminds of me of a Patrice Evra that can score.
Haven't seen much of his defending but he's a great athlete, if he's good positionally then he will be the perfect modern fullback.
Haven't seen much of his defending but he's a great athlete, if he's good positionally then he will be the perfect modern fullback.
So who's better for now? The young scottish leftback at Celtic or this bloke? Not sure how accurate, but i also read he has a twin brother who plays for Fulham youth teams as well
Steven, quite talented as well and has made a couple cup appearances. Played for the u17s who won the World Cup in the summer.
Tierney is a better left back at the moment. I would imagine (based on the reports). I think we should be considering Sessegnon as an attacking wide left player, not a left back.
He is on Sky tomorrow against Sunderland.
Not going to lie, if we're going for a big money, young LW then I'd prefer Sancho.
Heheh. Gotta keep trying till we find another Rooney/Bale. No bigger financial risk and sometimes you can hit jackpot with that kind of policy.The last time signed a left back?
Would be very typical of us. Dont sign a player when he is going for cheap to no money, then wait a couple of years for him to get better and pay over the top say two to three times his worth and secure him.
There is another side to this .
Patience and opportunities are needed for young talents not sure he will get that at a big club like United .
So buy him and loan him out for a couple of seasons?
Future world-beater for me, but I don't think he'd immediately improve us. Depends on how we buy him, if we buy him as one for the future, great, but he won't come right into the team.
For a supposed United fan, nearly every of your post is either criticising the team or the fan base here. Very strange attitude to have.
Yeah all for it. . He looks a cracking talent .
If Martial leaves then Sessegnon coming in as his replacement is all good with me although I’d like us to sign Sessegnon anyway and groom him as an inside forward on the right hand side, long term can you imagine Sessegnon and Angel Gomes as inside forwards if both fulfil their potential.
I'd second this
just can't imagine Jose trusting a player of his age to play with any regularity - it's against everything he has ever shown before in terms of trusting youth
he's an obvious talent and we need to be looking beyond the next two years so this kid would be a solid investment
buy and loan and get someone experienced
Zaha mk2
I wonder any young player will entertain this idea if they pay even a little bit of attention to what happened to all those talented young players in chelsea that go on loan, or just look at chamber or to an extent walcott in arsenal or Shaw in United. They joined the "big" club too early in their career. If i were him i will stay with Fulham and just ask for an improved contract. He is only 17 so a stable environment staying with family, coach trust, and regular game time are more important to him at this stage of his career imo.
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I'm all for it and it makes perfect sense IMO. Martial is probably gone as he wants more playing time. So going by that assumption. We have Sanchez at 29, turning 30 in December. Rashford who will likely develop through the middle but can play anywhere along front 3, but is very much an inside forward type winger. Nobody out wide who offers the natural width though, and nobody who is left footed up there. So Sessegnon as a hopefully future left winger ties in perfectly. Can provide goals and create them, and loads of pace, exactly what we need. And English to boot! Sir Alex would 100% go all out for him. Also doesn't hurt him that he is somewhat versatile in that we could put him at left back/wing back when we're really chasing a goal or if we use a 3-5-2. So it ticks all the boxes IMO.
Sessegnon, and Tierney would both be excellent signing IMO, both young and wouldn't instantly start, but getting them at the moment they're in and then getting them to fight and break into the starting 11 is exactly what you want and what we've always done before Fergie retired.
Sessegnon, and Tierney would both be excellent signing IMO, both young and wouldn't instantly start, but getting them at the moment they're in and then getting them to fight and break into the starting 11 is exactly what you want and what we've always done before Fergie retired.
Critical of Mourinho yes, big difference. And I’m just honest and a negative person in general
Terrible post. United still the biggest club in the country and one of the biggest and most supported in the world.
By all reports we were trying to sign him and he chose Dortmund.
Why on earth would he choose us to be sent on loan? What would be the point of leaving City to just get loaned by us? It makes no sense.
Damn right I have a superiority complex #twentytimes
If we do sign Sessegnon then I think we've got three viable options
a- we loan him up until Sanchez kick the bucket on his career.
b- we replace Martial with him
c- we can try playing Sanchez on the right (something Pep tried and failed miserably at Barcelona) and allow Martial and Sessegnon to fight for the LW spot
What I think we shouldn't do is play him as LB. Its evident that he's not suited to play there. Lets not ruin the boy.
He is good enough to play left back. He played there for half this season with Fulham and their defence was very solid but they ended up in a lot of closely fought low scoring games. When they moved Sessegnon up into an attacking position and loaned Mitrovic from Newcastle their form has been transformed and they are on an amazing run with a chance at automatic promotion.
There's no reason to think that Sessegnon couldn't be a top level left back it just seems a waste when he is so good at scoring goals.
Anyway, Fulham v Sunderland is live on Sky tonight so people should give it a watch and see how he does.
That's the thing. Being 'good enough' or is 'able to do the job' shouldn't justify buying a player to play him out of the position he's most effective in. Sure he will probably do the job against the likes of Watford and West Ham. There again, once we meet the big guns his weakness will be exposed.
Don't take me wrong, its not as if I don't want the guy. In my opinion, if there's a top British young talent on a reasonable fee then we should buy him up. However, lets do things the right way by playing him in his most effective role. If it means loaning him for a year or two then so be it. If it also means letting Martial go (especially since he seems unhappy at OT) then I won't complain either especially since we've already got Sanchez + there's so many young talent coming through on the left (Rashford, Sessegnon (if we sign him), Pereira, Gomes, Chong). Actually it wouldn't be a bad idea to do so IF we use the money to add a top quality natural right winger instead
What I am against is buying young talent with the concept of playing them in a role which they aren't 100% effective in. If we need a LB then we add a natural LB. If we need a RB then we add a RB. We don't buy someone whose terrific as LW only to play him as LB simply because he is 'good enough' there.
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Not suited? What? He evidently is suited to play full back. That's why he was playing there. He may be better further up but it won't ruin him playing him in a position he grew up playing.
LB is not the role he's most effective in.
Pirlo grew up playing as a forward same as Scholes did. That doesn't mean you buy them to play them there.
Sessegnon is doing it in a tough league at 17, and won player of the season. Sancho has had a handful of starts for Dortmund and Hudson odoi has barely had any first team football.
History tells us that Sessegnon will be the complete article long before the other two at this rate. He is by far the most promising teenage English talent and we should be willing to pay what it takes to bring him to OT. In any case he should remain at Fulham next season in my opinion, perhaps being loaned back. Hope we get this one done.
Sancho put in an amazing performance for Dortmund last week in an important game and announced himself firmly at a high level, a higher level than Sessegnon has so far. Sancho has an extreme high ceiling, his talent level is very high. I was sceptical that he would be able to step up but he is showing all the signs that he can.
Hudson Odoi remains untested for sure but he is an extremely gifted player technically and has blistering pace, which is why I like him.
They are all fantastic prospects for England though. Funny after all those years of having no decent left winger, three come along at once buses etc.
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Like you point out we've not won a title for a while - we're still one of the biggest clubs in the world, but that gap is obvious.
I never said we're not the biggest club in the country and I agreed we're one of the biggest in the world. But anyway it's not about how big our dicks are - we're going massively off subject the Sessegnon thread.
lol love it
It's like with Bale - he could play LB - but it was clear his strengths lay in LW - he'd be wasted at the back. Same as Ryan - he's done fantastic since he was moved up top - why'd you want to move him back?
Wasn't much impressed with him in the 2 games I watched from the Youth League, but then, its just 2 games to judge. Sessegnon and Sancho already tested at a higher level tbf.
I agree they are all great talents and there are man more in their generation. What I meant was how the likes of Dele Alli and Kane had over 100 apps in the Championship/League 1 before the age of 20 and they look to have developed far better/ironed mistakes out of their game as a result. At present, only Sessegnon is on track in that regard. It's still early days though with all 3 being 17/18 but game time during that developmental stage appears to be crucial.