Well I hope old Baldy Castles is right for once.
Ryan Giggs | United confirm he's left
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Time for him to go. You can't constantly have people, as part of the manager 's staff, who want to replace him.
Is this for real? How about it's not under consideration because Giggs doesn't have any credentials as a DOF in any way, shape or form? If you want to go down the DOF route, it had better be a very experienced and well respected figure in football. Someone whose knowledge would be accepted by the manager. How does Giggs fit into this role? It'd be a disaster waiting to happen, especially with Mourinho as the manager.
it's common sense and not productive for the team on a whole. Wish someone at United with power would realise this and stop pushing this unproductive nonsense. It also doesn't help Ryan - as he's not being forced to go out there and actually put himself through the rigours of management which is the only way he - and everyone else - will know if he's capable.
"What he did"? Do you mean, his job? As a player and as a coach/assistant manager?
You'll only find that garbage in the gossip rags.
Right on. I think the time is right for Giggs to launch his own career and there are a few clubs in the PL and Championship that could be a good launching pad for his career.
Yep. There's a limit to how much you can learn when you aren't being held accountable, as well.
You don't need to be paranoid to see it's a bad idea to keep Giggs around. Heck, we all know what happened with his brothers wife, and now he seems to be leaking to the press, why should he show Mourinho any loyalty?
Nah I read it mate, but I don't think it's realistic that Giggs would do that. I agree with you about the benefit but I just can't see it as it's definitely a step back. It would be better for him to learn from Jose as it was what he really did himself by following Sir Bobby at 3 different clubs, I just doubt Giggs would wait more as he has already been AM to 2 managers.
I can see him being offered a job in the championship, I imagine he's well connected enough.
If he doesn't take a job in England, I'd like to see him join a Spanish team as part of the coaching staff. I think the experience will be vital for his development as a manager and he wouldn't be in the firing line like Neville was. I doubt he'll be the next Fergie but I think he can become the next Hughes, which isn't that bad.
If he doesn't take a job in England, I'd like to see him join a Spanish team as part of the coaching staff. I think the experience will be vital for his development as a manager and he wouldn't be in the firing line like Neville was. I doubt he'll be the next Fergie but I think he can become the next Hughes, which isn't that bad.
I reckon its Rooney who is leaking to the press
Understood
I think he will become a lot like Hughes in that he will have a slight bitterness towards the club now, unfortunately.
He won't be around.
Jose would be full retard for letting Giggs remain.
Giggs has also damaged his own brand significantly. He needs to go out and restablish his name on a personal front.
Maybe but wholly unjustified. It was unfortunate he was associated with 2 failed regime but he needs to take responsiblity as a part of the crew when everyone else got sacked. If he does feel bitter then he shouldn't even be considered as a future United manager candidate.
As per Reports Giggs has left as well. Also, Warren Joyce has been approached to become Blackburn's manager.
Giggs as our U-21s manager would have been nice, considering Mou is more than likely to leave in a few years' time
Giggs as our U-21s manager would have been nice, considering Mou is more than likely to leave in a few years' time
Bollocks .But you have a career in journalism
Giggs wouldn't accept that role, given he was assistant and in line to be the next manager.
But this was the most he could have hoped for. No team which is underachieving will give the job to an unexperienced man. Rather, no top flight team will risk giving him the job, unless he has some experience
Not very suprising tbh. It's gonna be strange to see Giggs in another club, but I think thats what he needs to do if he one day wants to become our next manager. He got plenty of time on his back to get more experience as a manager, and maybe one day he'll be ready to become our next manager!
I agree, but its clear that some people really thought he stood a chance, so I am guessing he did also.
In any case, I think it would be good for him to go and get a managers job somewhere else, you never know he may turn out to be good
I'm in the minority but I think Giggs will stay. And I hope he does, he has been unfairly criticised. Unlikely that LvG gave him any say
Absolute legend for the club BUT no characteristics that should make him even a consideration for a job in the management team. He's shown for two years that he has no opinion of his own and has no idea how to get his thoughts onto the pitch. Just sits there with his hand on his chin every game.
Wonderful servant for the club but a step too far to think he had any credentials to take us back to glory.
Thanks for the memories old lad, but time to move over and let Jose bring in some world class talent and to try and develop our younger players.
Wonderful servant for the club but a step too far to think he had any credentials to take us back to glory.
Thanks for the memories old lad, but time to move over and let Jose bring in some world class talent and to try and develop our younger players.
Oh damn. Warren Joyce is very good at his job. I would not like to see him leave.
Giggs needs to leave asap. His good name is become synonymous with managerial failure.
Now a tweet saying the club trying to keep Giggs. Lord but they're stupid. Let the guy go and get his managerial career started. It's bad enough Jose is walking into a club where some board members don't like him, but to have Giggs in the background waiting for him to implode? We'll never get rid of the politics at this rate
I'd prefer it if he went to be honest.
Its time for him to spread his wings. He's been hear since near birth, mostly under 1 manager. Some diversity will do him good
He won't take a lesser role and surely he can't be the assistant manager again.
He should go lower leagues and earn his stripes now.
He should go lower leagues and earn his stripes now.
I agree.
I'd love Joyce to be assistant myself.
I hope we won't impose him on Mou.
Think of it like this: Is it best for both him and the club that he stays here? And if so, what role would you want him to have here? Wouldn't it be better for Mourinho to get his own assistant manager and let Giggs out to start his own managercareer now?
To be a manager here he has to prove he's capable in the role. So go out there, manage a few smaller clubs, show you're worth it and then come back. I'd love him to achieve it and it all work out, but it's too much of a risk to let someone take over who has no real idea what they're doing.
People can be very fickle though. One minute wearing shorts makes him a tough guy and the next he's a wally. People imagine all kinda things. Someone like a Joyce (i'd like to see Keane) because I would like him to scare the players lol
I'm afraid it really is a case of pass me the world's smallest violin. Right now I feel pitiless to the point of wanting to shoot rabbits.
I don't get what's the big deal about asking him to get some actual managerial experience. Seriously? What the feck? Why is he so spoiled? He was a brilliant player but has proven nothing as a coach. The United job is extremely difficult, to be appointed on the random hope that he is as good as pep is so unbelievably naive and dumb. Get a job somewhere else, do well and come back, why all the drama?
mentioned in the other thread
he surely deserves some kind of send off after 29 years
he surely deserves some kind of send off after 29 years
Giggs has played a long game, probably figuring that his best, and maybe only, chance of ever managing United was to step up from assistant manager after a sacking. It hasn't worked. The shark-infested waters of lower-level management await. Now's the time to take the plunge. He'll probably be gobbled up like 90% of ex-players but he can't stay on the bank forever.
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