I'll be sad to see him go. While he's been nowhere near his best I think he still has a little left in the tank. He's a player I've always enjoyed watching and I don't think it will be easy to replace him.
RvP Transfer | Signed with Fenerbahce | See thread in the footy forum
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Provided we have a replacement lined up, I believe the time is right to let him go. He'll obviously want the security of a longer term contract, and has already stated that he plans to play for many years to come. Given his age, injury record and declining production, we won't (and shouldn't) make the financial commitment to keep him. The club must continually move forward, which inevitably means letting players like RVP go. Overall, he's been a very good signing. He re-energized the club at an important time, and spurned City's interest to join us. He won the league for us in his first season, which allowed Sir Alex to go out like the champion he is. That title alone will leave RVP satisfied with his choice as well. If the move happens, there's really nothing to do but thank him for the memories and wish him well moving forward.
He isnt a playmaker you build the side around. He'd still get plenty of goals and assists if he played behind the striker. He isnt a traditional #10,neither a traditional #9. Which is why in my first post, I simply said he's an excellent attacker. Put him anywhere in that front 4 and he'l score and assist plenty.
I, too, am blindly along for the ride on this one. I just don't see an obvious top class solution.
Top player, no doubt, but just not worth it for an established top club at thia point. He'd probably score a grip, but I think he'd as detrimental as anything.
Feherbache aiming for the CL knockout rounds with these signings, eh?
Galatasaray with Drogba and Sneijder did manage to get to the round of 16, where they were smashed.
Thanks for the memories, this player is a joy to watch sometimes.
Galatasaray with Drogba and Sneijder did manage to get to the round of 16, where they were smashed.
Thanks for the memories, this player is a joy to watch sometimes.
Perhaps too soon for the 'Thank you Robin van Persie' thread, so will post here instead.
Cheers Robin. Great first year under Fergie - 30 goals and a well deserved league winners medal at last. Best of luck.
Cheers Robin. Great first year under Fergie - 30 goals and a well deserved league winners medal at last. Best of luck.
Ahhh, think he can still thrive with us if we get the right supporting cast!
We're no longer the retirement home we became under Ferguson. Van Gaal will be a lot more ruthless, which also makes the issue of letting players go too soon more relevant. I think we're right here, though.
We need to recreate the environment here in that you must play well regularly otherwise you will be let go. Too many players stayed here for far too long and it was detrimental in the end. You only need to look at the amount of players shifted in the space of twelve months to see how bloated the squad was.
From a long term perspective, this is a positive direction the club is taking.
We need to recreate the environment here in that you must play well regularly otherwise you will be let go. Too many players stayed here for far too long and it was detrimental in the end. You only need to look at the amount of players shifted in the space of twelve months to see how bloated the squad was.
From a long term perspective, this is a positive direction the club is taking.
Strongly agree. Standards were definitely slipping towards the end of Ferguson's reign and the squad he left us with was ridiculously bloated with dead wood. While Van Gaal has made many mistakes in terms of his tactics and player selections he is unquestionably fixing fundamental problems that we have ignored for too long.
It will be fun if United get matched up with Fenerbahce in the Champions league qualifier with Nani and RvP waiting.
What fee is being bounded around....any? Or are we just giving players away now?
Odd one as surely selling clubs will know now that we are massively in the market for a Striker and thus prices up again. Unless LVG knows something we dont and has one lined up. Maybe he's willing to give Hernandez a go. And rely on Wilson a bit more. Fellaini up there I guess and obviously Rooney.
But on paper and currently you wouldnt think you'd win the league with them and be able to push in the champs league too. One or two injuries and we're struggling. Therefore you'd assume we're in the market for a striker and therefore prices up if you sell before buy. Odd move, but guess get him off the wage bill sooner which means saving few mil by end of summer.
Odd one as surely selling clubs will know now that we are massively in the market for a Striker and thus prices up again. Unless LVG knows something we dont and has one lined up. Maybe he's willing to give Hernandez a go. And rely on Wilson a bit more. Fellaini up there I guess and obviously Rooney.
But on paper and currently you wouldnt think you'd win the league with them and be able to push in the champs league too. One or two injuries and we're struggling. Therefore you'd assume we're in the market for a striker and therefore prices up if you sell before buy. Odd move, but guess get him off the wage bill sooner which means saving few mil by end of summer.
Don't think we should be letting him go at all. Still has something to offer, and it's not like we'll be getting a big fee for him or anythign (well, I don't think at least).
The last true world class (in form at least) outfield player we have had. Forgotten what it feels to have one of them now, a player that could just get a goal out of anything. You just never felt like we didn't have to chance to win when he played in 12/13
He's not the player he was when he joined you - and he will have a big fat contract no doubt. One of your highest earners just as a sub?
Agreed. Even our chances in the tie vs Madrid I felt weighed on RVP's form. He was a beast of a striker, and rival fans were praying he'd get injured all season. He had that special aura about him that we didn't see since Ronaldo or possibly Rooney in 2009/10.
Yeah, it's a bit of a waste. He's 32 (well, will be by the time the season starts), clearly past his best on huge wages. We should get a younger striker who has potential to develop. I have no clue who should that be but then again I do not have a worldwide scouting network either.
And it still hurts as feck that he missed that glorious chance in Madrid at the end. Had we won that game I can't imagine we'd have fecked up the return leg.
Oh well. I'm not blaming him for the exit, btw. But that will be my number one abiding memory of Van Persie, unfortunately. It should be the hat-trick at Southampton or that goal against Aston Villa.
And yet he also probably was responsible for oen of our best performance from a striker last season (Southampton Away) and was also the best player on the pitch (bar missing a penalty) on his return game against WBA... So there is still something in there. I don't think World Cup burnout helped... and yeah, just having Wayne Rooney (and Wilson) at the moment is a bit worrying.
He'll be on a big fat wage, but it's not like we don't have the financial muscle to cope with that. It depends who we get in to replace him (and Falcao), but buying a striker to guarentee goals is risky at the best of times.
Having a 300k p/w player warm our bench for another season never was an option and I doubt we will ever play two strikers for an extended period of time under LvG again so either him or Rooney had to leave and in this case I'd rather keep Rooney tbh.
Still think that means we have to bring in a new striker who isn't older than 25 that can put some pressure on Wayne to perform or claim the spot in the team for himself if Rooney isn't up to it anymore either.
Still think that means we have to bring in a new striker who isn't older than 25 that can put some pressure on Wayne to perform or claim the spot in the team for himself if Rooney isn't up to it anymore either.
I'd hate that, would feel like we are tempting fate.
another 200k off the wage bill.
Really sad if he goes, I'll never forget his first season here and the buzz of taking Arsenal's best player when he signed. Good luck RVP he was unstoppable that season for us.
Our forward line looks completely different to under Ferguson. Welbeck's gone, Hernandez has declined and will mostly likely be gone and both Rooney and van Persie aren't as good as 2/3 years ago. In 12/13 our forwards in the league scored 26 (van Persie) 12 (Rooney) 10 (Hernandez) and 2 (Welbeck). This year we've barely scored half that with 12 (Rooney) 10 (van Persie) 4 (Falcao) and 1 (Wilson). He'd be a sub in the big games if he stayed but there's be enough fixtures for him to get starts in my opinion.
Would be horrendous. They'll both be desperate to prove a point and probably play the game of their lives. And we all know how good they are when they really turn it on.
I'm happy to sell him as long as we replace him properly. If we are just relying on Wilson, Rooney and Hernandez that won't do. We need 1 more top striker like benzema, lewandowski, lacazette or even Kane. We've saved £24m a year atleast from the wage cuts, that's basically a top striker as it is!
Having a medical at the moment.
Think the fact that Fernabahce is the best he can do says it all really.
LVG said it would be a rough summer and he's not wrong. We've still not sold Evans. You would think if we're selling Robin we've very close to completing some deal for a striker but who?
Not sure LVG needs or wants another striker. He wants players who are versatile - players who can score goals. He has that in Depay, Wilson, Rooney and with the style of play he wants to see, the midfielders should be contributing more.
Do you think Kane or maybe sterling? I would like to see us more fluid but think we need one more providing we don't give Hernandez another chance
Wow! We better have someone of real quality lined up.
His wages are the issue. Turkey has stupidly low tax.
Very disappointing, went through some poor form at an older age and people assume it's a decline, not saying he'll get back to his, but he'll be a top player for a few season yet I think, pace has never been his strongest asset since he joined us.
I can just see us facing Fenerbahce in the CL qualifiers with him and Nani playing a blinder 
I have a sneaky feeling about Berahino.
I'm wondering if we could put a can't play against us clause in the agreement? Perhaps like we have with Di Maria not going to Barcelona (providing it's legit)..
I can just see us facing Fenerbahce in the CL qualifiers with him and Nani playing a blinder
If that happened, I would be very interested.
A quick google search and I found these are the percentages for personal Turkish tax:
It's lower (by 10%) for the highest tier, but I wouldn't say stupidly low, or even enough to move there just to save money from less tax like players do with Monaco. I suppose with a player like RVP he'd be getting like £500k more a year from it.
Although, completely unrelated, considering 88,000 Turkish Lira converts into only c£25k, if you earn a decent salary there you get taxed more (35%) than in the UK (20%), with no personal allowance!
The clearout we've had this past two years has been fine BTW - Anderson, Nani and now seemingly van Persie all gone
They have a good team and play in CL.
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