Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion

I don't think it's anything more complex than Putin having nothing else he can do. Unless he goes nuclear this is all he has - throwing men to their deaths (which will work to some degree if he does it enough) and indiscriminate mass shelling. Even then the reaction is quite tame which makes me think there's stock in the idea they are running low on certain types of missile.

Agree, but literally like every fecking thing Putin does, it only works against his goals and weakens Russia. In a strategic sense, all they've done today is waste ~100 expensive, difficult to replace missiles and strengthened Ukrainian and worldwide resolve against Russian aggression.
 
Here is the main reason for the constant threats of nuclear war: The standard negotiation tactic of the soviet union, and the fact that the West always had people who are willing to offer them something.

 
The West isn't a country.

Which country should baselessly claim Kalingrad, and what do you want to achieve by that?
Freedonia and because Rufus T. Firefly said so.
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I am going to guess 5 people on the Caf get this reference.
 
The West isn't a country.

Which country should baselessly claim Kalingrad, and what do you want to achieve by that?
Kant’s (famous Russian ***********) dead body also comes with the territory. Czechia has already announced the annexation though.
 
Kant’s (famous Russian ***********) dead body also comes with the territory. Czechia has already announced the annexation though.

There's this joke I think is pretty good, but doesn't really work as text.

A *********** was on the subway, drinking a beer. A cop noticed him, and let him know it was not allowed. "Come on", the *********** said, "it's fine, I'm not hurting anyone". "No, but imagine if everyone were drinking on the subway, it would be chaos". The *********** began losing his patience, and replied "Who do you think you are, fecking Kant?" He was arrested.

You need to pronounce Kant in a certain way.
 
There's this joke I think is pretty good, but doesn't really work as text.

A *********** was on the subway, drinking a beer. A cop noticed him, and let him know it was not allowed. "Come on", the *********** said, "it's fine, I'm not hurting anyone". "No, but imagine if everyone were drinking on the subway, it would be chaos". The *********** began losing his patience, and replied "Who do you think you are, fecking Kant?" He was arrested.

You need to pronounce Kant in a certain way.

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So on some telegram channel info appeared NATO will attack Belarus. Sounds like bs and even if true what would possible be the sane reason behind something like that.
 
So on some telegram channel info appeared NATO will attack Belarus. Sounds like bs and even if true what would possible be the sane reason behind something like that.
Lukashenko was talking about Poland potentially attacking Belarus, probably they refer to that.

And there is a sane reason behind that, Lukashenko doesn't want to go to war so he uses this claim to say "sorry Putin, can't go to Ukraine I've got a border to defend"
 
Lukashenko was talking about Poland potentially attacking Belarus, probably they refer to that.

And there is a sane reason behind that, Lukashenko doesn't want to go to war so he uses this claim to say "sorry Putin, can't go to Ukraine I've got a border to defend"
Yeah I meant if he doesnt want to go to war and he's having a classic hold me hold me tactics, there isnt a reason to attack them. And who knows what would be a Russian response to that, they're basically a Russian region.
 
Lukashenko was talking about Poland potentially attacking Belarus, probably they refer to that.

And there is a sane reason behind that, Lukashenko doesn't want to go to war so he uses this claim to say "sorry Putin, can't go to Ukraine I've got a border to defend"
Lukashenko is a slimy, slippery operator. He’s going to outlive Putin as president I bet.
 
Lukashenko is a slimy, slippery operator. He’s going to outlive Putin as president I bet.
I'm quite sure he will. I'm just wondering if he will align with the West or with a new Russian government when the time has come.
 
I'm quite sure he will. I'm just wondering if he will align with the West or with a new Russian government when the time has come.
I don't think he'll be able to align with the West after what he did to supress the protests 2 years ago.
 
I don't think he'll be able to align with the West after what he did to supress the protests 2 years ago.
Who cares? History shows that geostrategic interests are much more important than human rights etc. If Lukashenko should manage to play a role in bringing peace to Ukraine he could have a chance.
 
Who cares? History shows that geostrategic interests are much more important than human rights etc. If Lukashenko should manage to play a role in bringing peace to Ukraine he could have a chance.
I think this entire conflict shows that you shouldn't make deals with authoritarian dictators for a momentary convenience. Lukashenko's arms are covered in blood of thousands of people.
 
Who cares? History shows that geostrategic interests are much more important than human rights etc. If Lukashenko should manage to play a role in bringing peace to Ukraine he could have a chance.
Belarusians probably care quite a lot. If it wasn't for Putin's support in suppressing protests in 2020, I think he would already be gone.
 
Love the why do we need Europe part. :lol:

"What have the Euromans ever done for us?"

Whatever the result of this war is, bringing back Russia to something resembling of a West-friendly society is something that will take at least decades.

I hope we get good news from Kherson and/or Kreminna soon.
 
"What have the Euromans ever done for us?"

Whatever the result of this war is, bringing back Russia to something resembling of a West-friendly society is something that will take at least decades.

I hope we get good news from Kherson and/or Kreminna soon.
Yeah, no news whats happening on the front these 2 days or so it seems.
 
Yeah, no news whats happening on the front these 2 days or so it seems.
Which isn't surprising. Offensives result in a lot of casualties, so Ukraine needs to resupply and refresh their troops. Also it is quite clear that Ukraine grinds down logistics and artillery first before than moving into a space that the Russians can't properly resupply and support. So we will likely see quiet periods where Ukraine hold positions and slowly strikes deep interchanging with actual offensive Operations.
 
Which isn't surprising. Offensives result in a lot of casualties, so Ukraine needs to resupply and refresh their troops. Also it is quite clear that Ukraine grinds down logistics and artillery first before than moving into a space that the Russians can't properly resupply and support. So we will likely see quiet periods where Ukraine hold positions and slowly strikes deep interchanging with actual offensive Operations.
Yeah, makes sense.