Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion

These latest counteroffensives have been really well thought through and armed forces have been nothing short of amazing on the ground. Real heroes of our generation shielding Europe from the russizm on their own. RIP to the fallen.
 
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Lyman is under Ukrainian flag now, UAF cleaning up the city now soon to be announced officially. Apparently, Ukraine allowed some Russian troops to leave the town (probably unarmed).
 
The only escalation I expect in the near future will be from the Ukrainian side once winter sets in, they will be far more prepared for it. Forget the other bollocks being thrown around about Russians being winter soldiers, they are gunna suffer.
In videos from the war a lot of the Russian troops are using civilian sneakers indicating that the Russian army isn't able to provide them with proper boots. Coming from a country with 6 months of below freezing temperatures and having spent a winter in the military, I'd say one of the most important factor in winter warfare is keeping your feet dry and warm, by the looks of things the Russians won't be able to do that.
 
How long before the oligarchs try to rein in Putin? Some of them must be losing a fortune as result of his stupidity.
They don’t have any power at all, it’s a weird misconception about Russia from the West.
 
They don’t have any power at all, it’s a weird misconception about Russia from the West.
Did they ever? Because 15 years ago the media was definitely saying so, though it's pretty clear now they have none.
 
Did they ever? Because 15 years ago the media was definitely saying so, though it's pretty clear now they have none.
I wouldn’t say that Russia was ever an oligarchy but yeah, in mid-to-late 90’s some oligarchs like Berezovsky or Gusinsky held a notable amount of political power. One of Putin’s main political actions at the beginning of his reign was to rob them of any remaining power (the case against Khodorkovsky’s Yukos being the most well-known example).
 
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In 1939 Hitler, and his entourage, talking of Poland, said the following: "an artificially created state, a gift from us", "this so-called state that does not have any national, historical, cultural and moral basis", "the favorite pet dog of Western democracies, which cannot be considered a cultured people at all", "I don't see a future for Americans... This country is in decline. They have racial problems and social inequality... How will they hold their own?"

This is literally the same thing Putin said today on Red Square in Moscow regarding Ukraine and the West. So what is the difference between Hitler and Putin?
 
The ending is quite funny, he says “God is with us” straight after the murdering and looting stuff.
Must be the Old Testament Yahweh, that guys an a$$hole to be fair. Pretty sure he tells people to murder and rape if I remember correctly.
 
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In 1939 Hitler, and his entourage, talking of Poland, said the following: "an artificially created state, a gift from us", "this so-called state that does not have any national, historical, cultural and moral basis", "the favorite pet dog of Western democracies, which cannot be considered a cultured people at all", "I don't see a future for Americans... This country is in decline. They have racial problems and social inequality... How will they hold their own?"

This is literally the same thing Putin said today on Red Square in Moscow regarding Ukraine and the West. So what is the difference between Hitler and Putin?

Hitler steamrolled Europe. Putin has lost 25% of his fighting force to occupy 20% of Ukraine.
 
Hitler steamrolled Europe. Putin has lost 25% of his fighting force to occupy 20% of Ukraine.
Exactly... against Hitler's Reich the whole civilised world needed to mobilize all possible industrial and military capabilities. Against Putin it seems so far mostly to be enough to just dump old garbage that's already replaced or going to be replaced soon.
 
Exactly... against Hitler's Reich the whole civilised world needed to mobilize all possible industrial and military capabilities. Against Putin it seems so far mostly to be enough to just dump old garbage that's already replaced or going to be replaced soon.

the Russian military are in complete chaos and have shown themselves to be incapable.

nato are sitting in the background preparing for worst case scenario I imagine.

russia aren’t in a position to launch an offensive against any nato country, but if they tried, it wouldn’t last long.
 
Imagine the PTSD levels of these brave soldiers after this is all over, huge resources will need to be put in place to work with their mental health.
Good point, war is a disaster for everyone involved. It's often overlooked sadly.
 
the Russian military are in complete chaos and have shown themselves to be incapable.

nato are sitting in the background preparing for worst case scenario I imagine.

russia aren’t in a position to launch an offensive against any nato country, but if they tried, it wouldn’t last long.

That is right.
Nevertheless, when you think about it, while completely reprehensible, the annexation of those Ukrainian territories is actually a sound strategy by Putin.
By doing that, he has created a situation where Ukraine is forced to end up attacking what he would say is an attack on Russian territory.
And it puts NATO in a more difficult position.

Please don't think I am defending Putin. I am just pointing out the latest position.
 
That is right.
Nevertheless, when you think about it, while completely reprehensible, the annexation of those Ukrainian territories is actually a sound strategy by Putin.
By doing that, he has created a situation where Ukraine is forced to end up attacking what he would say is an attack on Russian territory.
And it puts NATO in a more difficult position.

Please don't think I am defending Putin. I am just pointing out the latest position.
Why would it put NATO in a more difficult position? No one relevant to NATO’s decision-makers would care about this artificial switch from defending to “attacking”.
 
By the way, why is Russia actually mobilizing? Don't they have a 1M army at all times anyway?

Russia didn't commit all of it to the Ukraine invasion as far as I know so one would assume they still have a sizeable part of their professional military available.
 
Why would it put NATO in a more difficult position? No one relevant to NATO’s decision-makers would care about this artificial switch from defending to “attacking”.
I think he is right that the formal annexation is a try to prevent NATO from supporting attacks on these areas. It simply hasn't paid off as it was already confirmed that no one accepts these annexations as legal. Basically what is happening at the moment is that NATO doesn't believe that Russia is going to defend these oblasts like they would do their true own territory. But that is a gamble on both sides. Putin is bluffing (is he really?) and NATO/Ukraine is calling his bluff.
 
By the way, why is Russia actually mobilizing? Don't they have a 1M army at all times anyway?

Russia didn't commit all of it to the Ukraine invasion as far as I know so one would assume they still have a sizeable part of their professional military available.
De jure it has bit in reality there aren’t any significant reserves left. One of the theories was that the newly mobilized recruits would replace regular army on secure military objects, borders etc. which would free those up to be used in Ukraine but in reality it looks more likely that the mobilized are going to be sent directly into battle.
 
By the way, why is Russia actually mobilizing? Don't they have a 1M army at all times anyway?

Russia didn't commit all of it to the Ukraine invasion as far as I know so one would assume they still have a sizeable part of their professional military available.
Not really, as not everyone of them is a fighter. They need backroom staff for organizing things etc, also they can't use the Pacific and Arctic naval fleets, neither the nuclear missile bases and their troops (or they can only transfer a limited amount of them as we have already seen dead soldiers who usually serve at Plesetsk Cosmodrome). They can't use a huge part of their aviation (strategic bombers can't be used safely in Ukraine, they can't retreat all troops from "interesting" borders (be sure that Georgia is just waiting to take their territory back from Russia...).
 
That is right.
Nevertheless, when you think about it, while completely reprehensible, the annexation of those Ukrainian territories is actually a sound strategy by Putin.
By doing that, he has created a situation where Ukraine is forced to end up attacking what he would say is an attack on Russian territory.
And it puts NATO in a more difficult position.

Please don't think I am defending Putin. I am just pointing out the latest position.
But the thing is - significant parts of what he is claiming to be russian territory now are not only Ukrainian under international law but also controlled by Ukraine and a part of that territory was even not under Russian control at any point in time. He did it in a way that is too ludicrous to accept even if NATO were super eager to freeze the conflict for the fear of nukes - since otherwise you are basically accepting that any nuclear state can indiscriminately just declare a part of any other "non-nuclear" state to be its territory and threaten with nukes if this state and does not comply and/or NATO etc intervenes.
 
By the way, why is Russia actually mobilizing? Don't they have a 1M army at all times anyway?

Russia didn't commit all of it to the Ukraine invasion as far as I know so one would assume they still have a sizeable part of their professional military available.
In Russia everything is on paper, their active armed forces amounted to around 250k pre-invasion or at least in that ballpark according to many sources, the rest probably have never held a gun in their lives, this is what they’re actually mobilizing right now.
 
But the thing is - significant parts of what he is claiming to be russian territory now are not only Ukrainian under international law but also controlled by Ukraine and a part of that territory was even not under Russian control at any point in time. He did it in a way that is too ludicrous to accept even if NATO were super eager to freeze the conflict for the fear of nukes - since otherwise you are basically accepting that any nuclear state can indiscriminately just declare a part of any other "non-nuclear" state to be its territory and threaten with nukes if this state and does not comply and/or NATO etc intervenes.
Again, NATO can't end the war. A deal can only be made between Ukraine and Russia and everyone else might assist in talks, but that's it.