Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion

Its not a bad insight at all, things just tend to turn out far more complicated than most people can imagine. You would have all this together with the green parties and enviromentalists being zealous about reaching net zero. Hopefully the realists would see what the oppourtunity that you see.

Well I predict after the incoming recession, electricity blackouts, energy price driven poverty and hyper inflation Western Europe will be dropping it's collective panties for Ukrainian energy if it can get it. Public outcry will be too strong
 
Well given the Ukrainian's treatment by the Russian Soviet's it is natural they hoped they could ally themselves with another military they were hopefull would be more sympathetic to their cause. Ultimately they had no idea the Nazi's would be even worse.

The Bandera camp were fascists. It wasn't some "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" stuff, there were clear political differences, but also alignment on stuff like racial purity, ethnic cleansing and antisemitism.
 
I must say huge credit to the Biden administration for the contribution Ukraine has received, one can only imagine how this would have panned out under Trump.
 
I must say huge credit to the Biden administration for the contribution Ukraine has received, one can only imagine how this would have panned out under Trump.

100% . Biden going all in created a tacit permission structure for the rest of NATO and EU to do the same. This would've been a proper mess had Trump been involved.
 
For anyone interested, there is a twitter space being ran under @MriyaReport covering the goings on in Ukraine. It's much higher quality than the old one, Walter Report, better speakers and less weirdo's being allowing on asking daft questions. Its 24/7 while there's a lot of activity.

Just been listening to Ben Hodges answering questions and offering his insight on my drive home, former commanding general of US Army in Europe. He's still on.
 
I must say huge credit to the Biden administration for the contribution Ukraine has received, one can only imagine how this would have panned out under Trump.
That's the least he could do after provoking the war in the first place!
 
I must say huge credit to the Biden administration for the contribution Ukraine has received, one can only imagine how this would have panned out under Trump.
Conceivably we would not have helped Ukraine at all if Trump was still in charge.
 
Now its the time for NATO to accept Ukraine within its family. Putin would have no choice but to pull his men out of Ukraine and it would spare him the humiliation of being defeated by a country which the Russian consider militarily inferior
 
Zeihan says that the Ukrainians just captured more Russian military equipment from Izyum than NATO has transferred to them during the entire conflict.

It's the biggest transfer of arms since WWII.

 
Given the scale of the advances I wonder if Ukraine has the logistics and supply lines to sustain this

As counter intuitive as it may be consolidation of the advances might be more logical than continuing with what has been a very successful advance
 
Given the scale of the advances I wonder if Ukraine has the logistics and supply lines to sustain this

As counter intuitive as it may be consolidation of the advances might be more logical than continuing with what has been a very successful advance
The US and the rest of NATO will see to it that they do. This is just proxy war now and the the former parties will see it as a great way now to damage any military power Russia has left.

In affect creating a toothless tiger…
 

This is one of the main reasons why AFU will need to keep capturing territories as much and fast as they can now, despite the concerns with overcommitting. It will have negative effects on the Russian troops as well.
 
Given the scale of the advances I wonder if Ukraine has the logistics and supply lines to sustain this

As counter intuitive as it may be consolidation of the advances might be more logical than continuing with what has been a very successful advance
All true. But if they can continue to vacuum up Russian munitions without being ensnared or caught woefully thin it might be worth it to keep going for a bit.
 
@harms is it true that troops would be sent to jail if refusing to go to Ukraine?


I'm not sure if there are actually any cases for treason opened on the account of soldiers refusing to go to Ukraine (judicially they have every right to since it's legally not a war) but there are a lot of cases where officers threaten soldiers with jail if they won't go, they conveniently lose rapports where those soldiers ask for their contract to be terminated (which they have every right to ask for) etc. But if you know your rights and aren't easily intimidated or peer-pressured, you can refuse to go — sadly, not many soldiers fit these criteria. You can get a childish stamp in your military ID that says that you're a traitor and a coward but that's about it, I believe.

The worst case scenario are those soldiers who went to Ukraine & then tried to leave after seeing what's going on — and I'm not talking about literal deserters, I'm talking about those who went through official channels (again, they have every right to void their contract at any moment given that it's not a war). There are special prisons for those like the one in Luhanskaya oblast' near Bryank (so it's not bound by any Russian laws) where they are imprisoned and tortured by mercenaries from Wagner for daring to exercise their right.
 
That's the least he could do after provoking the war in the first place!
It’s true, there was a really hurtful note on Hunter’s laptop that gave Putin no option other than to attack Ukraine. Dictator’s have feelings too!
 
It's the only card they can play. War is always about demonizing your opponent. Even if it has no basis in reality. Like all these Nazi's choosing Zelensky, a jew, to be their leader.

Of course but even with the Russian use of the word Nazi to mean just anti-Russian it's still nonsense. Even if it were true that the majority of Ukranians are anti-Russian I hardly think invading their country, killing and/or displacing millions of their people, destroying their country while committing multiple war crimes is justified or going to make them any less anti-Russian.
 
Spare a thought for the disciples of Mearshimer and the whataboutism posse in the geopolitics thread.
You have to give Russia a sphere of influence within which they can commit any crime in anyone’s land, because reasons.
 
You have to give Russia a sphere of influence within which they can commit any crime in anyone’s land, because reasons.

If you want to avoid a war. If you don't want to avoid war, then you don't have to.

That's a pretty big caveat, but I suspect you and the rest of the gang in here are perfectly aware of that and that this is just posturing.
 
If you want to avoid a war. If you don't want to avoid war, then you don't have to.

That's a pretty big caveat, but I suspect you and the rest of the gang in here are perfectly aware of that and that this is just posturing.
:lol:
 
If you want to avoid a war. If you don't want to avoid war, then you don't have to.

That's a pretty big caveat, but I suspect you and the rest of the gang in here are perfectly aware of that and that this is just posturing.
Doesn't mean you'll avoid a war, though, does it, choosing appeasement?

Everyone with an army can influence things within the range of those forces. Doesn't mean they get some kind of exempt status. Part of this idea of a "sphere of influence" seems to be logistical, if the US is funding a group in central America, it would cost more for the Russians to fund that same group from across the globe.

Yet the USSR funded Cuba, which the US couldn't take over, and the US operated on the border of the USSR in Europe, even though it was closer to Russia. So where is this sphere?

Mearsheimer's ideas come from a world where the USSR could compete with the other super power, now Russia has an economy the size of Italy (and that was before the sanctions). They can't do anything outside Russia that's so difficult to counter it's not worth the effort.
 
People are saying that in some of the villages that have been liberated recently in Southern Ukraine, the Russians have killed literally everyone with piles of bodies lying around.